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United States15536 Posts
In the hidden laboratories of TL LoL, unfinished projects and burgeoning creations lurk in the shadows. Occasionally, the mad scientists that are the Staff help an experiment complete its genesis, and unleash it upon the unsuspecting forum to cause chaos and mayhem to better the informed strategic dialog upon which we pride ourselves.
Yet every once in a while, the beasts require sacrifice input from the community for which they are made.
Which is the point of this thread.
There's a thing that's been hanging around the Staff forum for a while at various states of construction, but there's a chance it could be released soon™. However, to do so, we need some help from everyone on TL LoL. I've got a few questions here for which the answers would be extremely helpful in completing our little Frankenstein monster, and I would love it if TL users of all divisions and experience gave some insight.
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
I appreciate any and all help y'all can give me, especially if you've been playing for a while and have climbed up the ranks/Elo/whatever.
Thanks all!
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1) From the start i wanted to play competitively. I used to play broodwar so i love the competitive play of game and strategy. Of course at the start i had 0 knowledge of the game, no strategies, not even tactics. I didn't know about simple things like ganks and stuff. But i read a lot. Tried the most uncommon roles in really low levels, like jungling at level 5...it was not easy to do, actually it went really bad, but my friend did it great with nunu, and basically learned a lot from that.
2) The metagame. Of course i didn't understand the reasons behind it at the start, but it was really easy and fast for me to learn about the game that way..
And after it changed a little, it made me think about the reasons of the changes. Then i started reading the patch notes and the discussions.
3) Buy wards, junglers are important, learn to support, play the champions you like the most.
4) I'm not sure, i think practicing... but knowing what to practice.. not just 1000 games doing the same mistakes.
5) lolwiki
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1) I do both. I think trying new things can be fun, and help improve your skills. I feel a lot of the meta is really stagnant, so I always try out new and wonky things.
2) How to farm.
3) It's not actually f2p. It's all ruse.
4) Mechanics.
5) depends on what kind of LoL knowledge; if it's quick rune setup I just check LoLpro real quick, I usually prefer to figure out how to play out the champion on my own though. LoLking pretty nice website to check winrates at highest level just to see what's FotM.
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1) Since, always. I play to win in my games whether im relaxing or not, i'll always "do" the correct things regardless of whether im trying 100% or 50%, i'll be playing to win. Tryhard or relax mode, PLAY. TO. WIN.
2) Just watching prostreams, looking up builds / runepages / masteries, reading a general guide on everything prior to the first two things so that i know what they mean, and playing the game over and over. So to put that in order. Read basics guide -> look up general masteries / runepages / builds for champions -> play play play -> watch prostreams and understand thought processes / plays and attempt to apply said skill to myself.
3) Mute incoherent players
How to ward
How to build correctly (inc. runepages + masteries) not adapting perhaps but a basic build
Map awareness
Importance of CS
4) Concentrating on your mistakes instead of your teammates and constantly playing with that mindset. Watch the occasional stream / vod to take notes on what high-level players do differently to you and how you can apply it. Ask questions about things you are unsure of to higher-ranked players (Like TL's playerbase)
5) Solomid, Lolking, Lol nexus. I use TL for discussion and not much else, you are ze most awesome LoL community but other places have better resources :3 (except writeups and LR's <3)
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1. Personally I started trying to improve constantly from when I picked up the game. I never particularly liked trolling around and doing retarded shit.
2. Map awareness is probably the most recent thing that has improved me the most taking me from gold->plat4
3. Item builds aren't everything in the game, imo you should focus your attention on other aspects of your game instead of worrying about what you are building for a certain reason. not to say that you shouldn't look into the general builds for each role to give you a feel for what you are doing, but specific items don't matter that much if you can do your job well.
4. get on a serious team and play 5s ladder/scrim other teams/enter small tournaments
the best learning experiences I had were getting smashed by TL premades in 5s ladder(shake and mogwai i'm looking at you >_>)
5. Watch or read about general trends throughout LCS or other major tournaments.
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Only need to answer one.
2) Acknowledging that I suck, and that there's always something I can do to win the game.
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On June 07 2013 03:41 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Only need to answer one.
2) Acknowledging that I suck, and that there's always something I can do to win the game.
Really this is the best advice. Look at every game you play and ask yourself what could I have done better?
Your losses will be the most obvious, but even when you win you have to realize there are so many areas you can improve. Yes, an answer can be "lead my teammates better" but don't cop-out with this every time. Examine your own play first before you critique anyone else.
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1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
When I started playing ranked games over normal games.
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Be willing to adapt. You may like one role, or one champion, or one build, but you need to be flexible in what you can do and how to respond to situations. If you find something that works for you, stick with it until it no longer does. Then you can figure out why no longer does, and alter it.
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Play the game. Experience is going to teach you more than anything else. Don't just play it mindlessly though. Analyze what you do that works, and improve on what you do that doesn't work.
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
Streams (general knowledge), LOLWiki (stats), Surrenderat20 (news)
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United States23745 Posts
Nothing, I'm still bad 
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1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
Around the time I hit level 30, so about a year ago
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
See your mistakes and fix them
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Dont think too much about counters and look to play the strongest champions you are comfortable with
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Playing a lot and studying the game. Know the numbers.
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
Lolwiki and Lolking. Rarely do I go to reddit but there are a few good threads there (like I didn't know how MF's Double-Up worked even though I always "kind of knew"
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1) When I first met csheep
2) Csheep's worlds of wisdom
3) "Don't listen to csheep he sux"
4) play with csheep
5) I ask csheep
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1: It's my natural inclination to improve at any video game I play. I didn't get better with the specific goal of competing, I got better because becoming more skillful is something I enjoy.
2: Jungling. I started jungling early, when it was in its nascent stages, and as a result I learned game sense faster than I otherwise would have. Junglers have to know as much as possible about everything in order to achieve their potential, and knowing that I needed to know everything helped drive me forward.
3: Be fearless. It's really, really easy to play safe and lose games. You won't learn your limits unless you keep making bold mistakes.
4: Nothing beats experience, but only if the experience is meaningful. See #3.
5: Lolwiki.
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The most important part is that you learn how to talk your team into cooperating. This allows you to test your own limits much more frequently and you will learn a lot from your teammates.
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Every time i try to get better i lose, every time I try to win i win.
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1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
Around the time season 2 started, I decided to try to improve while playing ranked. After finishing at under 1100 elo in season 1, I was determined to improve.
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
Just the ability to watch allies, say "I should do that" or "I shouldn't do that"
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Don't blame your teammates for everything, you are new and don't know you are doing things wrong.
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Play and practice a lot.
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
I browse the LoL reddit for things like the spellsy support counterpick guide, but most of the time I just learn through experience.
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1) Other way around for me. When I started I played mostly with players I knew from TF2 and a lot of them had level 30 accounts. Had to learn quickly, but that wasn't really a problem. Nowadays I don't play that much. The group I used to play with scattered a bit and I don't enjoy solo queue. So I mostly screw around in the couple of games I play. It'd be fun to play in a more serious team again, but I barely have the time to play a lot. much less organize/manage a team. I'm also unaware of amateur leagues.
2) BW strategy, TF2 teamplay and a little bit of LoL streams
3) Don't try and make Poppy work.
4) Play a lot for mechanics. Be critical of your play, don't blame your teammates.
5) League wiki for numbers on abilities.
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iam one of the guys who where drawn over from dota by some friends.
1. i tryharded pretty much since beginning. I don't see a point in playing a game if you don't try to win except you want to be nice to a new player or friend.
2. a mix of blaming myself and realizing that lol is all about teamplay
3. lol is not dota and its also not a easyer version of dota.
4. allways help your teammates.
5. wikia
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1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
From day 1. As a 10 year DotA veteran, I knew what the game was exactly like. I had skill but no knowledge, the first 300 games was pretty much trying to cram as much champion and item knowledge into my brain.
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
Observation. Just like in DotA, you watch the people who do good whether they are on your team or opposite team. If I was specific, then I'd say that I learnt building tank on all melee champions is the way to go to secure wins. Going damage will help you kill an enemy, but building tank will help you take on a whole team.
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Put whatever thick-headed pride aside, open your ears(well... eyes to the chat log) and listen to your allies.
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Practice play. Sticking with your team after the 20 minute mark also helps (even if you don't know exactly when to use your skills, it's the presence that counts)
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
Mobafire, just to look up the actual numbers for champion skills that I don't know about.
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1) I wanted to get serious after I started watching more eSports and my friends started getting into it together with me, felt just like the good old SC2 days.
2) Similar with SC2, it's important to be humble and recognize when you're sucking. "You" are the only constant variable in your solo queue games and the best way to win is to focus on improving YOUR gameplay and not someone else's.
3) Dont drag out games any longer than they should be played, know when a game is 90% lost and dont waste your time hoping for a miracle. Instead just move on the the next game and learn from your mistakes. Likewise, dont waste other people's time and always take steps towards ending the game for your team.
4) Confession Time: As much as it pains me to say, and might rustle a few jimmies out there, I learned/progressed a lot as a player by jungling XJ9 style and realizing that when in doubt, trust yourself more than others + Show Spoiler + . Know when there are clear opportunities to help people in need, but also realize when someone is beyond help and your efforts are better spent elsewhere.
5) Streams are my favorite source of information, as it was in SC2. If you're just starting out/unfamiliar with certain champs almost every Guide site out should fill you in on all the details. Information wise however, visual demonstrations are always better.
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1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
Trolling is not in my dictionary but I will attempt new builds from time to time. (And by "new builds", I'm talking about in Season 1, for example, trying to deviate the standard Ring/Ring/Deathcap build you see most AP Mids go). I'm as tryhard as they come and I've been playing since the beta.
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?
Being an "old player" doesn't mean anything. There's still a lot of things I can improve with my own game. Especially since I'm not like Slayer91 and don't play 1-2 champions for 200 games straight.
3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Everything starts with good CS in lane. Map awareness second. Item builds third.
4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Play the fucking game. Then look back after every match and ask what you could've done better.
Stream help only so much and they don't help if you don't know the ins and outs of a champion before hand. You need to have some experience to realize what the pros are doing better otherwise all the minor details that make pros pro go unnoticed.
5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
The wiki for obv stats that you need to look up. Otherwise solomid and lolking for general guides but please don't treat it as gospel. It's meant to get you started, not follow to the tee for the rest of your League career.
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1) S1: I wanted Gold for the skin+gold border. I played the ABC and got to Gold right before the end of the season.
2) I don't like spamming games, so then I watch streams because that's the only other way you improve. In solo queue, if you played your lane/position the best, regardless of win/loss feel satisfied and move on to next game.
3) If you want to play casually, then do whatever you want. If you want to play competitively amongst pros,develop your mechanics in solo queue so that you have enough gold to buy items at critical stage in a game.
4) Focus when you play. Just spamming games isn't going to drill any new information into your brain.
5) lolking and lolnexus and liquidpedia
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