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Anggroth
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom345 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 00:39:36
June 08 2013 00:39 GMT
#41
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

- I'd played a few ranked games prior to the new league system, got put into Silver 5 automatically, then due to inactivity (I hadn't played a single ranked game since the new league system was implemented) I got demoted to Bronze 1, that made me want to get my level back up (I then proceeded to get a promotion series in one game and, then 3-2 that) and carried on since then

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

- All roles are important, in fact the ones people tend to look down on (support/jungler) can actually make a bigger impact than the "Damage Dealers," this really came from watching a ton of LoL in LCS and seeing just how then supports and junglers actually make a huge difference and can even elevate mediocre teammates (whereas the other 3 roles tend to be more selfish).

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

- Learn support and jungler, not just because they are important roles but they provide you with knowledge and skills that help with all positions. Support (especially at low ELO) is "the lone warder" and while that can suck, it does show you how important those little sticks are, also support highlights the importance of proper ability usage (as you can't fallback onto auto's like some others due to lack of farm). Jungle really highlights map awareness, you need to constantly be aware of which lanes are pushed, which are pushing, who's missing, has the enemy jungler ganked. what hp are the other players (enemy and ally), have they used big CD's that could influence a gank (Karthus/Shen/TF especially) etc... Also, if you're going to insist on play Mid/Top try and pick roaming champs to try and get that map awareness back up.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

- Practice, same as everything else, pick a champ you're interested in then play a couple of solo bot games just to get used to the different abilites and how they're used, my favourite examples are Kha'zix and Zed, without practicing how to effectively use their abilities they'll never live up to their potential, doing this in a solo game really takes the pressure off (no teammates constantly berating you if you do badly). Also, check out some of the tricks used in pro games and practice them in solo games (Kha'zix W while jumping with E, Jayce firing Q then dropping acceleration gate after and still getting the boost, etc...)

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

- LoLPro to start a basic build, but these days I tend to see what pro teams tend towards and try and adapt it (I realize I can't do it as well as they can but you can definitely take hints from what they do).
No practical definition of freedom would be complete without the freedom to take the consequences. Indeed it is the freedom on which all others are based.
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
June 08 2013 01:00 GMT
#42
What made me better at LoL?

After each game, going back and being able to point out to myself where the hell I fucked up and figure out how I was going to improve it.

And taking the attitude that anything less then perfect csing/making the absolute best of every single opportunity in the game, such as not alling someone you can kill, and then doing slightly better the next game.

The moment you think you have nothing to improve and that you need better teammates to get higher rating is the moment you stop improving.
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 02:10:35
June 08 2013 01:58 GMT
#43
plat 3 on euw

1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

at the very beginning, coming from BW/SC2 and other competitive gaming, I wanted to learn more about the gamen and get to a "decent" level. I still took me about 500games to not feel clueless about the game and start improving significantly.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

LOLREPLAY srsly
Playing free champions to know what each of them do. Lolwiki for abilitie's CD and ratios, TK lol GD for itemization, build theory and cost efficiency. Actively watching streams to understand trading in laning phase, teamfighting (peeling, initiation, burst and sustained damage)

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

LOLREPLAY srsly
concentrating in a couple roles/champions before expending game knowledge.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

LOLREPLAY srsly
not blamin your team as the main reason you lose but understand where you fucked up and made your own odd of winning thinner.
playing ranked and think for yourself.
YOU.SUCK

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

LOLREPLAY srsly
I would still refer TL LoL GD because this is where you find the best knowledge and theorycraft.
Otherwise lolwiki and some high elo streams each providing different points.

"teachers" scarra, wings, voyman
"raw mechanix" froggen, peke, liftlift, lantyr, incarnati0n, bjergsen, wildturtle, dyrus
"fun" saint, qtpie, oddone, daydreamin, druidroid, aphromoo
"weird & out of the box thinking" xj9, qtpie, boxbox/BestRivenNA
captharlock
Profile Joined September 2010
United States223 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-08 04:08:48
June 08 2013 04:02 GMT
#44
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

Always been working on improving even though I downright sucked especially though s1 and s2, I've never trolled anyone. Although this season I took a more competitive approach. A lot of which I owe to one of my buddies that I play with sometimes. He started making the climb to Diamond from Silver (he's plat 2 atm.) Seeing that I figure I could at least get to Gold which is the goal I set for myself at the moment (currently Silver 2, hopefully going to Silver 1.)

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

Honestly, Watching Streams, Reading Guides and watching replays of my bad games. There is always something for me to improve on.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

Don't level 1-30 with just Coop vs A.I, games. You'll get into a lot of bad habits because some of the things that bots back for people won't. Always play against people. Work on basics like last hitting, map awareness, objective control, positioning, warding.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

You get better not just by playing alone. Acknowledging the mistakes you make. Knowing how to take advantage of your opponents mistakes. Being able to adjust your build to combat what the enemy is building. Being comfortable enough with multiple roles including Support

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

LoLPro, Solomid.net, for guildes. Spelly's support sheet for support a lot of things support. Twitch for some of the streams (stvicious, krepo, scarra, xpecial). Lolking and wiki for check for champ stats like CD's on ults that I can't remember.
Baneslayer Angel could be hungover, slightly blind, and texting while flying and still win the game
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 08 2013 04:26 GMT
#45
see i think you guys have it backwards. i used to tryhard soloq all the time until i realized i could just troll people in normals all day =]
GANDHISAUCE
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 08 2013 04:31 GMT
#46
wut a liar, you tryhard in normals too, u fun police
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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
June 08 2013 04:42 GMT
#47
it only feels tryhard when ur losing to it
GANDHISAUCE
Tarheels
Profile Joined April 2013
United States55 Posts
June 08 2013 21:28 GMT
#48
How I got better, I stopped using chat.
datscilly
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States528 Posts
June 10 2013 00:05 GMT
#49
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?


1) I've been following Starcraft for a long time, so when I started playing LoL it was with a mind for competition.

2) The most fundamental thing is to fight when you have greater numbers, and not to fight when you have lesser numbers. Everything else, like unit interactions, or which champion is strong against which, is secondary. To accomplish this, you need to know where your allies are, and to the extent of your knowledge, where your enemies are. So look at the minimap all the time. Cast your spells, then look at the minimap. Right click where you want to go, then look at the minimap.
Now, the more detailed version of this is to fight when your are stronger, and not to fight when you are weaker, but this involves giving less concrete advice like being aware of who has become strong.
As for laning, I'm reminded of something Zekent said: "all you are trying to do is to trade well with the opponent; do more damage to him than he does to you".

3) When I was starting out, my brother told me: "get last hits, that is the most important skill for a beginner to learn". I focused on last hitting, but I didn't know anything else about the game, so I didn't understand last hitting. Is creep score the most important factor in the game? Is it the number of kills a team has? No, it's how much gold a team has. I was overly fixated on last hitting when I didn't need to be. So to a starting player, I would say that as long as you have fun with the game and you're smart, you'll improve, and if you play a lot, you'll be good; just don't underestimate how much is 'a lot'.

4) I've thought about this, and I believe the best way to improve is to play organized games with four other people. There are so many advantages when you can talk with your team. You are provided with a constant stream of information of what your team knows, instead of having to look yourself. You learn what to say, and what not to say; that is, what information is important to your team. When your are coordinated, you have a better idea of what works, and what doesn't work. The information provides the biggest advantage, though. When you are talking, everyone on the team is constantly aware of the game state, in contrast to solo queue, where everyone is in their own little world, no idea of what's happening on the other side of the map. Basically, you are playing the "real game", while everyone else is playing a lesser, more convenient version.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
June 10 2013 00:11 GMT
#50
On June 08 2013 13:42 De4ngus wrote:
it only feels tryhard when ur losing to it


or u can troll in solo queue and win anyway.
Hey! Listen!
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 10 2013 04:02 GMT
#51
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

Always have. /shrug.

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

That winning lane matchups is not what wins game. Map pressure wins games. killing nexus towers wins games. Ultimately, teamfighting well, getting your team to listen to you (or atleast one predominant strategy), roaming, controlling objectives well, controlling the map and having good vision/awareness... all of these just as important if not more important to win than just "winning lane".

Someone wins a lane really hard in almost every game that is played, and loses regardless.

Navi got me started on this idea, but what really pounded it home was playing against SilSol in a normal game in the middle of S2. At the time he was famous for "feeding" in High Elo streams. Beat him in lane pretty handily. Killed him three times, probably 50-60 CS ahead after laning ended. His team crushed us anyway, SilSol carried hard, was just more effective.

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?

Just play lots, dont worry about winning. Look back at the end of each game and decide what to improve.

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?

^^^

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?

Lol Wiki, Solomid.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
June 10 2013 04:09 GMT
#52
The mute button: Makes the game way more enjoyable,helps you focus on what you have to do, lets you ignore ragers and other random nasties. Unless of course your at a higher level where you need more than ping messages to communicate, this works.
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 10 2013 04:54 GMT
#53
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
What the fuck is improvement? I only understand what trolling is.
God Bless
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
June 10 2013 05:13 GMT
#54
Similar to Goku and the gravity chamber, I played the preseason and the first season of LoL with only the trackpad on my laptop and locked camera, mainly playing junglers. Once I transitioned to normal mouse play and unlocked camera, everything was extremely easy in comparison.
I come in for the scraps
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 10 2013 05:51 GMT
#55
oh rawflez
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Roffles *
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Pitcairn19291 Posts
June 10 2013 07:17 GMT
#56
On June 10 2013 14:51 NeoIllusions wrote:
oh rawflez

You tryhard and still feed.
God Bless
Serendipityx
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States595 Posts
June 11 2013 21:38 GMT
#57
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?

I've always played to get better from the very start

2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

Finding out what role I'm comfortable in playing the most, focusing on a few champions, learning matchups for a few champions

3) If you were starting today, what are some things that you wish someone would tell you about LoL?
Being masters in starcraft doesn't mean you'll find league mechanics easy. This game is more focused on knowledge so try and know as much as you can about matchups, how to secure objectives, etc

4) What do you think is the best way to become a better LoL player?
Find your role, Top and Jungle are less skillshot reliant compared to mid because top and jungle are more melee champs.(Renekton, Shen, Riven Vs Anivia, Ahri, Orianna, Karthus) AD carry relies on good positioning and kiting. Support could be skillshot dependent if you play things like blitzcrank. If you like to initiate teamfights, definitely play top or jungle as those are the easiest roles to initiate with. After that pick champions you want to get better at, focus on only a few so you can learn as many matchups as you can. Pick champions that are strong in the current meta if you want to try and win solo q games the easiest. After that just develop general game sense like having an idea where the jungler is, securing dragons, when to take towers.

5) What resources do you refer to when you seek LoL knowledge (other than TL)?
Videos of pro players playing the champion you're interested in and winning against them without too much jungler help. For example, my favorite champion and probably best one is Irelia. I played her almost exclusively up until level 30. If i were to start playing her now, I'd probably need 1-2 games to have an idea how her skills interact. Anyways I got better with Irelia by playing her a lot which exposes me to as many different matchups as possible. When I had trouble figuring out how to win certain matchups like Irelia vs Jax or Irelia vs Malphite, watching recent relevant vods of Wickd playing those matchups helped extremely. I probably watched him play Irelia vs Jax 10 different times to see when and how he executed trades against jax and when he had kill potential. In a lot of these vods he killed jax 1v1 without jungler help which imo is the most useful. Since top lane snowballs so much, seeing him get a kill level 3 due to jungler ganks would be very unhelpful as hes just getting advantage because his jungler helped him, something you should never count on happening. That site prololmatchups.com could be potentially useful.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
June 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#58
On June 10 2013 13:54 Roffles wrote:
1) When and why did you decide to play LoL to improve instead of to troll and do random, silly stuff (when did you start playing competitively)?
What the fuck is improvement? I only understand what trolling is.

Haven't refined your art of trolling even the slightiest bit in all this time?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
June 11 2013 22:36 GMT
#59
rawflez is pretty bad. You'll have to excuse him.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
June 11 2013 22:55 GMT
#60
2) What knowledge or insight has helped you to improve at LoL the most?

Realize that when I'm starting out, switching from dota, I'm playing with people who will probably never get out of silver/bronze in their lifetimes, so I should stop getting pissed off as fuck when they play with useless mechanics or troll/feed on purpose, because that just gets me angry, makes me play worse, and be too blinded by rage to improve at all. I just have to accept that 40% of my games are going to be unwinnable until my skill gets to a point that is a league or more above my actual rating, and just focus on improving my own mechanics rather than trying to win - because trying to win is too much of a mental investment and leads to rage in those games. Which is rather hard to accept, but yea.
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