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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
June 02 2013 17:01 GMT
#4841
On June 03 2013 01:48 incinerate_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 01:30 Rice wrote:
On June 02 2013 23:28 justiceknight wrote:
cna any1 explain why some jg chose to buy madred over the +500hp thing? I am ttrying out j4 and watched some jungler's stream and their jg tools are different.

allows you to farm the jungle slightly better. Personally id just man up and get a sotel on jarvan :D


Speaking of the spirit stone upgrades: What is the general consensus on madred's vs. these on auto attack reliant junglers like Xin and J4? I feel like Madred's should allow for a slightly faster clear but the spirit stats just seem so good. Did anyone do some testing the how much of a clear time difference there is?


I think the difference would be almost negligible. It's more of a matter of "do I want armor from madred's and 1300g, or a spirit item?" and it's almost always the second one. However, there are some incoming changes to Madred's and Wriggles that might make them more attractive options.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
June 02 2013 17:16 GMT
#4842
Should I get the TPA nunu or the TPA mundo guys? I play nunu much more than mundo nowadays, but I once really liked mundo.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
June 02 2013 17:20 GMT
#4843
Get the mundo one and play him.The sound effects are op.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 02 2013 17:21 GMT
#4844
On June 03 2013 02:16 Vanka wrote:
Should I get the TPA nunu or the TPA mundo guys? I play nunu much more than mundo nowadays, but I once really liked mundo.


The obvious and only answer is both/all.

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I refuse to let my RP addiction go unshared.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
June 02 2013 17:31 GMT
#4845
On June 03 2013 01:59 thenexusp wrote:
Regarding untargetability: http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Untargetable


There are three classes of untargetability:
1) Untargetable & Invulnerable. You don't take any damage, tethers are broken, etc. Examples: Zhonya's, GA, Zilean ult, Lissandra self-ult. (Exception: Shaco ult is like this but fiddles re-tethers onto shaco afterwards)
2) Untargetable. You can't be targeted by spells, AoE doesn't affect you, in-air projectiles get disjointed, but any DoTs and tethers will stay on you. Examples: Troll pole, troll pool, rappel. Note that things like time bombs, karthus ults, and shark bait do not count as tethers.
3) Untargetable dash. Same as #2 but in-air projectiles do not get disjointed. Examples: Alpha strike, twisted advance, death mark, blade waltz. (However, karthus ult is also not a projectile, so you can still dodge it)

the point i was trying to make is that some things work and some things don't and you have to know the properties of individual moves, and in that respect it's not really different from dota.
Amarok
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia2003 Posts
June 02 2013 17:33 GMT
#4846
Does anyone know when and where the season 3 finals are actually going to be held? My googlefu turned up a depressingly small amount of information.
Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 02 2013 17:37 GMT
#4847
On June 03 2013 02:01 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 01:48 incinerate_ wrote:
On June 03 2013 01:30 Rice wrote:
On June 02 2013 23:28 justiceknight wrote:
cna any1 explain why some jg chose to buy madred over the +500hp thing? I am ttrying out j4 and watched some jungler's stream and their jg tools are different.

allows you to farm the jungle slightly better. Personally id just man up and get a sotel on jarvan :D


Speaking of the spirit stone upgrades: What is the general consensus on madred's vs. these on auto attack reliant junglers like Xin and J4? I feel like Madred's should allow for a slightly faster clear but the spirit stats just seem so good. Did anyone do some testing the how much of a clear time difference there is?


I think the difference would be almost negligible. It's more of a matter of "do I want armor from madred's and 1300g, or a spirit item?" and it's almost always the second one. However, there are some incoming changes to Madred's and Wriggles that might make them more attractive options.


Not only are madreds/wriggle's getting changed but Elder Lizard is slated to only give 35 AD instead of 45 and spectral wraith is suppose to be either 40 or 45 AP next patch. So we might see more people building madreds/wriggle's or possibly getting ancient golem soon.
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
June 02 2013 18:23 GMT
#4848
that Elder Lizard nerf would put it really damn close to brutalizer in efficiency. Don't like it. That spectral wrath nerf is meh, it's still going to be pretty good on jungle Elise I guess but doesn't seem very necessary to me.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
ArchAngelSC
Profile Joined April 2012
England706 Posts
June 02 2013 18:24 GMT
#4849
On June 03 2013 02:37 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 02:01 c.Deadly wrote:
On June 03 2013 01:48 incinerate_ wrote:
On June 03 2013 01:30 Rice wrote:
On June 02 2013 23:28 justiceknight wrote:
cna any1 explain why some jg chose to buy madred over the +500hp thing? I am ttrying out j4 and watched some jungler's stream and their jg tools are different.

allows you to farm the jungle slightly better. Personally id just man up and get a sotel on jarvan :D


Speaking of the spirit stone upgrades: What is the general consensus on madred's vs. these on auto attack reliant junglers like Xin and J4? I feel like Madred's should allow for a slightly faster clear but the spirit stats just seem so good. Did anyone do some testing the how much of a clear time difference there is?


I think the difference would be almost negligible. It's more of a matter of "do I want armor from madred's and 1300g, or a spirit item?" and it's almost always the second one. However, there are some incoming changes to Madred's and Wriggles that might make them more attractive options.


Not only are madreds/wriggle's getting changed but Elder Lizard is slated to only give 35 AD instead of 45 and spectral wraith is suppose to be either 40 or 45 AP next patch. So we might see more people building madreds/wriggle's or possibly getting ancient golem soon.

Don't forget Spectral is losing its true damage passive (I think?)
komokun
Profile Joined July 2011
France343 Posts
June 02 2013 18:25 GMT
#4850
madreds armor is really nice, I don't really like the spirit stone but the upgrades are pretty amazing so I usually get the "other component" + boots 1 while I stay on machete (1/2 long sword/amp tome or kindlegem) then finish the spirit stone item on the following back. Spirit stones getting nerfed makes me question my builds though, sometimes I even stay on machete and get "real" items, I really don't like not having combat stats.

On this patch I'd say lizard elder is always better then madred, the stats are good enough to stay relevant in lategame build. I'm even building lizard on lee now.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
June 02 2013 18:34 GMT
#4851
On June 03 2013 02:33 Amarok wrote:
Does anyone know when and where the season 3 finals are actually going to be held? My googlefu turned up a depressingly small amount of information.


The "when" is most likely 10 weeks after the summer split starts (week of june 15th) so maybe august?

I have a sneaking suspicion its going to be in Korea, but it could be in LA like last year.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
June 02 2013 18:42 GMT
#4852
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
June 02 2013 18:43 GMT
#4853
On June 03 2013 03:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?


WildTurtle.

This is probably because of my bias against CLG. In fact... it almost certainly is.

BUT FK IT BAY LIFE WILDTURTLE PLEASE.

Alternate Punchline:
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Nien for realz.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
caelym
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6430 Posts
June 02 2013 19:02 GMT
#4854
On June 03 2013 03:34 nojitosunrise wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 02:33 Amarok wrote:
Does anyone know when and where the season 3 finals are actually going to be held? My googlefu turned up a depressingly small amount of information.


The "when" is most likely 10 weeks after the summer split starts (week of june 15th) so maybe august?

I have a sneaking suspicion its going to be in Korea, but it could be in LA like last year.

You forgot to factor in regional playoffs and relegations. Sometime in October is more likely.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
June 02 2013 19:13 GMT
#4855
On June 03 2013 03:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?

International experience vs NA experience only.
liftlift > tsm
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
June 02 2013 19:37 GMT
#4856
On June 03 2013 02:16 Vanka wrote:
Should I get the TPA nunu or the TPA mundo guys? I play nunu much more than mundo nowadays, but I once really liked mundo.


I got the package, and nunu's lack a cool particle effect makes him like the only disappointing one.
Freeeeeeedom
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 02 2013 19:42 GMT
#4857
On June 03 2013 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 03:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?

International experience vs NA experience only.


Wildturtle has also worked with a much stronger support than Dlift this season. I refuse to entertain the notion that Turtle is better than Dlift until I see him play at Worlds against teams with the depth of the Chinese or Koreans.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-06-02 19:44:22
June 02 2013 19:43 GMT
#4858
35 bucks for TPA bundle

._.

I am actually tempted to break my rule about making sure F2P games stay F2P.

On June 03 2013 04:42 overt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2013 04:13 wei2coolman wrote:
On June 03 2013 03:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?

International experience vs NA experience only.


Wildturtle has also worked with a much stronger support than Dlift this season. I refuse to entertain the notion that Turtle is better than Dlift until I see him play at Worlds against teams with the depth of the Chinese or Koreans.


But its not like WT plays with xpecial in soloq all the time.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
June 02 2013 19:44 GMT
#4859
On June 03 2013 04:43 ticklishmusic wrote:
35 bucks for TPA bundle

._.

I am actually tempted to break my rule about making sure F2P games stay F2P.

Why do you even have a rule like that? LoL has so far given me many times more enjoyment than Diablo III.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
June 02 2013 19:46 GMT
#4860
On June 03 2013 03:42 ticklishmusic wrote:
So, Dlift or Wildturtle?

Well DL has proven himself against the best (ie against best european and korean teams) whereas Wildturtle is only owning soloqueue and LCS NA so far
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