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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

If you have any issues or comments about the new design, feel free to PM Neo.
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21242 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 22:45:08
May 27 2013 22:42 GMT
#3341
On May 28 2013 06:05 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 01:34 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
I took 34% off Isai in ssb64 when I played a game with him online, after which he raped me for five straight stocks without getting touched once.

I think that qualifies me as the best ssb64 player on this board.

lol, hitting Isai once is honestly an accomplishment in 64, gratz dude!

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 03:53 JonGalt wrote:
So we'll agree that Ness is the best character? I am gonna bring an N64 to every TL meetup I go to haha.

Modern tier lists put him at like 6-7th, lol. Poor dude looks so damn cool when no one knows what they're doing but now that people don't shield and are harder to hit, he kinda just blows.

Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 03:53 Shikyo wrote:
About SSB64, I think that Kirby is the best character. That down aerial is completely fucking broken, impossible to return to stage against Kirby even at like 10% and Kirby kills off just about any hit because his drill combos are so powerful and all his skills combo into everything.

Pikachu is probably as good but at least takes some skill.


Pikachu is much better than Kirby. Having a real recovery in that game is OP. Fox is also considered better than Kirby nowadays but it's a lot closer and most of that comparison boils down to matchups where Fox's better matchup vs. Pikachu counts for a ton.


Mogwai knows what he's talking about!

I'm on the Fox > Kirby boat, but yeah, it's quite close.

I never understood where the ~1 year period where everyone thought Ness was #1 came from, I always thought he was quite garbage. Well, not garbage, but just having a decent grab game isn't enough to put him above like...half the characters in the game who are better than him.

I should play some SSB64 again it was so fun @_@

When I played vs. Isai I was pretty much shitting myself lol. So much fanboying going on while I was getting owned xD
TranslatorBaa!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 27 2013 22:48 GMT
#3342
On May 28 2013 06:54 Mogwai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 06:29 MoonBear wrote:
Ohai Mogwai. Anything in particular you're hoping for in the new SSB:3D?

honestly no. I feel like Brawl told us what Nintendo wants from the franchise and I don't really have any faith in them to care about what people like me want from it so I really just don't have any hopes or expectations for the next SSB. Sorry to sound jaded on it, but I just don't think there's a happy ending in this for the competitive SSB scene.

You sound pretty jaded in general (no offense meant, just a thought), which makes your stream all the more enjoyable because we can feel your guenine fun while doing random stuff like Nunu top and there's a pretty big contrast there.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-27 22:54:24
May 27 2013 22:48 GMT
#3343
On May 27 2013 21:11 gtrsrs wrote:
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On May 27 2013 20:10 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
A) I will murder anyone at SSB64.
B) CLG CLG CLG


1) i thought i was an amazing sb64 player, one of the best at my university
on an offhand chance, i brought my n64 to LA for the relegation/promotion sets. my goal was just to give my players something to do as a group when we weren't theory-crafting or prepping for matches against TSB and MRN.
what ended up happening was that literally everyone on the team except frommaplestreet (who had never played the game) was a fuckin' BOSS at sb64. it became a ritual, something we did nearly 5 hours a day to warm up for matches. the team would hold mini-tournaments for cash, or just come into the room saying "my hands are cold i need to warm up for the matches" and play some sb64. it was incredible to witness, players who wouldn't communicate in-game at all getting hyped up and crazy over a meaningless game that had nothing to do with anything.

as it ended up, i was probably only the second-best player in the group. cris played an incredible yoshi, a character i severely underestimated and had no idea how to play against. he ended up winning about 50 bucks off of the rest of us over the course of the weekend. my link was probably #2, followed really closely by vileroze's fox then nk's falcon. atlanta played an amazing jiggly but i think he was sandbagging his real skill. it was so much fun. i want to make it a tradition before every LCS match.

2) CLG CLG CLG CLG

Yoshi is my main and I will crush anyone on him

I'm also god-tier at Jigglypuff and Ness

[edit] Just saw the Smash challenge too--He'd crush me in melee but I'm 100% confident in my 64 skills. I'm not saying I could 7 stock any of the top players or anything but I know where I'm at in relation to them and it's pretty damn close. [/edit]
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 27 2013 22:52 GMT
#3344
On May 28 2013 07:48 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 06:54 Mogwai wrote:
On May 28 2013 06:29 MoonBear wrote:
Ohai Mogwai. Anything in particular you're hoping for in the new SSB:3D?

honestly no. I feel like Brawl told us what Nintendo wants from the franchise and I don't really have any faith in them to care about what people like me want from it so I really just don't have any hopes or expectations for the next SSB. Sorry to sound jaded on it, but I just don't think there's a happy ending in this for the competitive SSB scene.

You sound pretty jaded in general (no offense meant, just a thought), which makes your stream all the more enjoyable because we can feel your guenine fun while doing random stuff like Nunu top and there's a pretty big contrast there.


It's really hard not to feel jaded when talking about anything related to Nintendo these days. But maybe a lot of people who share that sentiment are just "growing up" or something.
Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
May 27 2013 22:52 GMT
#3345
On May 28 2013 07:38 zer0das wrote:
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On May 28 2013 07:31 xes wrote:
On May 28 2013 07:26 wussleeQ wrote:
lurkers were those things that fucked up my army in 1 hit. guardians were those things that fucked up my base without me being able to do anything about it

Mass scout works 100% of the time, every time

+ Show Spoiler +
except at even D- iccup


I got the stove to work against my sparring partner once. Proudest day of my life, not even joking.


best showmatch / betting game when rekrul(?) was only allowed to build scouts.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
May 27 2013 22:52 GMT
#3346
I will freely admit that I am trash-tier at all 64 and Melle characters except Marth. Let the hate flow.
Freeeeeeedom
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13857 Posts
May 27 2013 22:57 GMT
#3347
I was always a bowser kind of guy. I'd use charge moves to mindfuck people and then jump down attack or charge up attack when they jumped in on me.

I was pretty good in the circle of people I played with but I have no doubts I was shit.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
May 27 2013 23:04 GMT
#3348
I played Isai a few times since I lived relatively close to a bunch of the local Smash meetups. I took a few stocks off of him over the course of two years or so, but he probably took 15 games off of me for every stock I got from him. When he got bored he would just pick random

It definitely helped that I netplayed Moogle for a billion hours though. Isai, Boom, and Moogle are still just so far ahead of everyone else in that game it's ridiculous.
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
May 27 2013 23:27 GMT
#3349
--- Nuked ---
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
May 27 2013 23:49 GMT
#3350
Only thing I have gather is that letters are being put to gether to form some kind of langauge
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 27 2013 23:51 GMT
#3351
9 victories in my last 12 ranked games played with tiamat/hydra rengar, from multiple positions, jungle primarily, then a couple top and support games

ad/ad/armor/mr (but could probably be ad/ad/armor/cdr tbh)
9/21/0, machete + 5 or cloth + 5 in lane.
top lane max E, in jungle max Q, as support max Q

the core item is hydra, after that mass kindlegems and turn them into other shit. golem/visage/locket. bonetooth optional but i get it frequently.

hydra with Q maxed and 40% cdr makes him a splitpushing monster, even more than he already is. QhydraW clears a wave, QQ to take towers, charge Q -> ult -> QQEWhydraQ instagib any squishy in teamfights. when jungling, hang around your mid and countergank when your mid gets ganked. with the listed setup your level 1-4 are nigh unbeatable. but you kill creeps slowly so it's imperative that you fight early and often. as support just use your Q on creeps until you get to 5, then jump in the brush and QQ the enemy adc down, w as you walk away to negate harass a bit. free kills all day, then roam at 6.

enjoy your free wins, must use headhunter rengar skin or you're doing it wrong
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
May 28 2013 00:01 GMT
#3352
I like SSBB better than Melee.

Mostly because I only played Melee twice and didn't own a non-handheld Nintendo console between NES and Wii.

SONY 4 LYFE
It's your boy Guzma!
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
May 28 2013 00:16 GMT
#3353
On May 28 2013 08:51 gtrsrs wrote:
9 victories in my last 12 ranked games played with tiamat/hydra rengar, from multiple positions, jungle primarily, then a couple top and support games

ad/ad/armor/mr (but could probably be ad/ad/armor/cdr tbh)
9/21/0, machete + 5 or cloth + 5 in lane.
top lane max E, in jungle max Q, as support max Q

the core item is hydra, after that mass kindlegems and turn them into other shit. golem/visage/locket. bonetooth optional but i get it frequently.

hydra with Q maxed and 40% cdr makes him a splitpushing monster, even more than he already is. QhydraW clears a wave, QQ to take towers, charge Q -> ult -> QQEWhydraQ instagib any squishy in teamfights. when jungling, hang around your mid and countergank when your mid gets ganked. with the listed setup your level 1-4 are nigh unbeatable. but you kill creeps slowly so it's imperative that you fight early and often. as support just use your Q on creeps until you get to 5, then jump in the brush and QQ the enemy adc down, w as you walk away to negate harass a bit. free kills all day, then roam at 6.

enjoy your free wins, must use headhunter rengar skin or you're doing it wrong

21 offense pls. u must have no fear.
GANDHISAUCE
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 00:59:07
May 28 2013 00:56 GMT
#3354
I am really, really, really sick of Khazix and Zed.

Nobody should be able to waveclear that well.

Not to mention as far as I can tell the Khazix changes on pbe are a buff.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 28 2013 01:01 GMT
#3355
On May 28 2013 09:56 Ketara wrote:
I am really, really, really sick of Khazix and Zed.

Nobody should be able to waveclear that well.

Not to mention as far as I can tell the Khazix changes on pbe are a buff.

Cheap escape mechanics are too strong. The problem isn't that they wave clear well, its that they waveclear SAFELY.
liftlift > tsm
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-28 01:06:37
May 28 2013 01:05 GMT
#3356
No the problem is also that they have just about the best waveclear of any champions in the game.

Other mid lanes need to have like a deathcap and level 9+ to clear as good as they do at 6 with nothing.

Does Khaz's evolved void spikes currently proc the unseen threat damage on minions? Is that why he can one shot the wave so easily?

If so, then I guess the change is a nerf. Which would be nice!
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
May 28 2013 01:10 GMT
#3357
Yeah once his passive doesn't proc on minions (or on W? I don't remember the change) he won't be able to insta-clear but he'll still clear just as fast or faster than most mids lol.
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
May 28 2013 01:11 GMT
#3358
On May 28 2013 09:01 Requizen wrote:
I like SSBB better than Melee.

Mostly because I only played Melee twice and didn't own a non-handheld Nintendo console between NES and Wii.

SONY 4 LYFE

This post hurts my soul.
-
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
May 28 2013 01:12 GMT
#3359
On May 28 2013 10:11 Headshot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 28 2013 09:01 Requizen wrote:
I like SSBB better than Melee.

Mostly because I only played Melee twice and didn't own a non-handheld Nintendo console between NES and Wii.

SONY 4 LYFE

This post hurts my soul.

It's pretty blasphemous i agree
Bronze player stuck in platinum
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
May 28 2013 01:18 GMT
#3360
"good scrims guys"- st.v to EU after 2-0ing them.
fucking hilarious.
liftlift > tsm
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