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Looks like we're back to status quo. Hope more of you lurkers unburrow and talk with us. :3

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zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 05:46:05
May 26 2013 05:45 GMT
#2861
I feel a bit dirty, I got 20 league points for a win against a team with a bronze 1 player playing Ez (like 90 cs behind 20 minutes in? something like that) because some dummy duoed with him. Said dummy lost tower to Singed like 6 minutes in. I'm in gold 4 currently. Nothing wrong with this system. >_>
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
May 26 2013 06:04 GMT
#2862
On May 26 2013 14:45 zer0das wrote:
I feel a bit dirty, I got 20 league points for a win against a team with a bronze 1 player playing Ez (like 90 cs behind 20 minutes in? something like that) because some dummy duoed with him. Said dummy lost tower to Singed like 6 minutes in. I'm in gold 4 currently. Nothing wrong with this system. >_>


The League Ranking System giveth, and it taketh away. Don't worry, I'm sure the other shoe will drop soon.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
May 26 2013 06:14 GMT
#2863
On May 26 2013 11:12 NeoIllusions wrote:
It's ok, Craton. I still like you.

I like me, too.

[image loading]
twitch.tv/cratonz
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
May 26 2013 06:39 GMT
#2864
On May 26 2013 15:04 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 14:45 zer0das wrote:
I feel a bit dirty, I got 20 league points for a win against a team with a bronze 1 player playing Ez (like 90 cs behind 20 minutes in? something like that) because some dummy duoed with him. Said dummy lost tower to Singed like 6 minutes in. I'm in gold 4 currently. Nothing wrong with this system. >_>


The League Ranking System giveth, and it taketh away. Don't worry, I'm sure the other shoe will drop soon.


It's always down. Working as intended. >_>
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 06:45:41
May 26 2013 06:44 GMT
#2865
losing steak in ranked at something like 20.

Had a game today where i played leona, all of our lanes won pretty hard, stole and controlled our objectives pretty well, late game team refused to group got 5v1'd constantly (wards all over the map, btw, not getting caught) and they cought back up and won.

Played 2 more where i had 1 dc and 2 0/12 bot laner, and the other game 2 dcs.

I don't think the ranked system works very well

edit: Also lost 14 LP from the game where i had 2dcs, gained 1 LP, 3 LP and 2 LP on my last 3 wins, respectively
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 07:10:26
May 26 2013 07:07 GMT
#2866
I came to TL with SC2 in early 2011, by mid 2011 i was playing LoL. Im one of the "masses" To be fair SC2 gave me a rush in gaming i'd never had, "esports", big money tournaments, streams, i'd never seen it before and it was a dream come true, i remember sitting on my floor watching an ESL sunday cup with rotterdam in this fancy smancy studio thinking "holy shit, this is for a game O.O". The game is meh nowadays in my mind, but i love it for what those 3 months gave me. (Even blind-bought SC2 razer package, still use the keyboard xD)

Switched back n forth a few times but ive settled on LoL after the release of HOTS.

And this community just awesome. Cept neo. #SkumbagNeo.

Arisen - that sort of gain / drop signifies the system thinks you way above your actual level so its trying to throw you back down, its broken as fuck though, so im not saying your bad. Also, how can you have a losing streak of 20 but talk about your last 3 wins giving you LP?? O.o

And your on major tilt, go play ARAM / Normals and beast shit up for a few days. Helped me to no end to just stop ranked for 2-3 days but play league, i even beat a diamond player top when i played a 5's ranked for fun with friends, epeen GROOOW!

And your going to get told off for posting here and not Q.Q thread soon, seen a couple of these posts last few days xD
Useless wet fish.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 26 2013 07:14 GMT
#2867
I am not Krepo.
I am Neo.

Close.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
May 26 2013 07:36 GMT
#2868
You guys think it's time for Riot to up the number of bans? Maybe switch to a DotA-style pick/ban phase?

Consider this. As of the current patch, we have 113 champs in LoL and we get 3 bans per team. DotA has 110 heroes, 101 of which are playable in -cm (aka competitive games) and they get 5 bans per team.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
May 26 2013 07:40 GMT
#2869
They should've up the bans months ago imo. They're just stubborn.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
May 26 2013 07:42 GMT
#2870
On May 26 2013 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
You guys think it's time for Riot to up the number of bans? Maybe switch to a DotA-style pick/ban phase?

Consider this. As of the current patch, we have 113 champs in LoL and we get 3 bans per team. DotA has 110 heroes, 101 of which are playable in -cm (aka competitive games) and they get 5 bans per team.


They sincerely should have changed the ban rate from what it currently is to something more robust a long time ago. At the very least, they need to up the bans to at least 4 or 5 champions now. This change is 100% needed. I'll be glad if Riot copied DotA's banning phases, but I don't think that's going to happen any time soon
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
May 26 2013 07:42 GMT
#2871
On May 26 2013 16:07 Capped wrote:
I came to TL with SC2 in early 2011, by mid 2011 i was playing LoL. Im one of the "masses" To be fair SC2 gave me a rush in gaming i'd never had, "esports", big money tournaments, streams, i'd never seen it before and it was a dream come true, i remember sitting on my floor watching an ESL sunday cup with rotterdam in this fancy smancy studio thinking "holy shit, this is for a game O.O". The game is meh nowadays in my mind, but i love it for what those 3 months gave me. (Even blind-bought SC2 razer package, still use the keyboard xD)

Switched back n forth a few times but ive settled on LoL after the release of HOTS.

And this community just awesome. Cept neo. #SkumbagNeo.

Arisen - that sort of gain / drop signifies the system thinks you way above your actual level so its trying to throw you back down, its broken as fuck though, so im not saying your bad. Also, how can you have a losing streak of 20 but talk about your last 3 wins giving you LP?? O.o

And your on major tilt, go play ARAM / Normals and beast shit up for a few days. Helped me to no end to just stop ranked for 2-3 days but play league, i even beat a diamond player top when i played a 5's ranked for fun with friends, epeen GROOOW!

And your going to get told off for posting here and not Q.Q thread soon, seen a couple of these posts last few days xD


Because i won some games before that losing streak. I did finally just break the losing streak however with a fun lee sin game, I did only get 1 LP though. As for playing aram/normals, I don't enjoy non competitive games, and playing unranked just isn't fun for me because people don't take it seriously.
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 07:50:55
May 26 2013 07:45 GMT
#2872
Y'know, the system didn't do anything against Gold duo-ing with really-bronze-level dude making his placements before. And yes, it's dumb. As dumb as the guy using his level 30 account with big normal Elo to show the game to his level 1 friends.

On May 26 2013 10:35 Scip wrote:
update: Vi is still awesome for the same reasons she was awesome before. Just got to 78 points with her, wh00

Go there and post stuff then, I haven't played her as much as Naut since his buffs and I don't think there's been a single game where I did well (well there was, but the guy I snowballed was actually godawful so we got trashed and I have no idea if I played well in the end) so even though I feel the current OP is outdated and I should suggest otherwise even for the tanky route I'm just not in a position to legitimately give advice on her atm. =(

Edit: ugh, that came up as aggressive. x_x Just read it as a request from somebody with bad humour then.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 07:51:38
May 26 2013 07:50 GMT
#2873
On May 26 2013 16:42 Arisen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 26 2013 16:07 Capped wrote:
I came to TL with SC2 in early 2011, by mid 2011 i was playing LoL. Im one of the "masses" To be fair SC2 gave me a rush in gaming i'd never had, "esports", big money tournaments, streams, i'd never seen it before and it was a dream come true, i remember sitting on my floor watching an ESL sunday cup with rotterdam in this fancy smancy studio thinking "holy shit, this is for a game O.O". The game is meh nowadays in my mind, but i love it for what those 3 months gave me. (Even blind-bought SC2 razer package, still use the keyboard xD)

Switched back n forth a few times but ive settled on LoL after the release of HOTS.

And this community just awesome. Cept neo. #SkumbagNeo.

Arisen - that sort of gain / drop signifies the system thinks you way above your actual level so its trying to throw you back down, its broken as fuck though, so im not saying your bad. Also, how can you have a losing streak of 20 but talk about your last 3 wins giving you LP?? O.o

And your on major tilt, go play ARAM / Normals and beast shit up for a few days. Helped me to no end to just stop ranked for 2-3 days but play league, i even beat a diamond player top when i played a 5's ranked for fun with friends, epeen GROOOW!

And your going to get told off for posting here and not Q.Q thread soon, seen a couple of these posts last few days xD


Because i won some games before that losing streak. I did finally just break the losing streak however with a fun lee sin game, I did only get 1 LP though. As for playing aram/normals, I don't enjoy non competitive games, and playing unranked just isn't fun for me because people don't take it seriously.



Yeah i dont enjoy non-competitive games either, but i have a cool bunch of friends that dragged me into ARAM with them and beers / trolling (them) makes it enjoyable. You have anyone you can play with? Try some in-houses with Liquidparty of the gentlemens club maybe
Useless wet fish.
ChaoSbringer
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Australia1382 Posts
May 26 2013 08:00 GMT
#2874
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-cinematic-twist-fate



This shit is amazing.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2013 08:10 GMT
#2875
I came to TL in 2003 because of the Boxer vs Reach OSL Final where I had a crush for mantoss when he beat Boxer 3-1, made my first account in 2005, didn't post much, forgot the password and the email lol. Make a new account in 2007.
Play quite a bit of SC2 in WOL, but as much as I tried I can't seem to like SC2. Finally quit in 2011 and switch to LOL.

I'd wish I could say I've never looked back on SC2 but I bought the HOTS, and I can't even bother to finish half the campaign . Happy that I joined the LOL sub-forum. Contribute nothing though cos I suck and I am lazy.
Terran
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 26 2013 08:12 GMT
#2876
On May 26 2013 16:36 Ryuu314 wrote:
You guys think it's time for Riot to up the number of bans? Maybe switch to a DotA-style pick/ban phase?

Consider this. As of the current patch, we have 113 champs in LoL and we get 3 bans per team. DotA has 110 heroes, 101 of which are playable in -cm (aka competitive games) and they get 5 bans per team.


to be fair, new champs and reworked champs are also always banned in real matches

but i talked this over with riot at MLG dallas, offering the same reasoning. the answer i got was actually pretty well-thought out imo. how many support champs are there (viable support champs pls)? sona janna leona blitz thresh lulu zyra.. then you get to the kinda shitty ones like taric soraka nami... after that you're looking at very non-standard stuff like lux, elise, jarvan supports. so if we up the bans to 10, what if those first 10 supports were banned? what would a support main play?

how many ADCs are there? varus cait MF ezreal trist twitch draven... then vayne corki graves... then tf teemo kennen etc. same story. 10 bans, what if the 10 main ADCs were banned? what would an ADC main play?

now obviously, as an advocate for weird innovative shit, i put forward the TL-approved "well they should get better, they should expand their champ pool, they should break the meta" etc etc etc. and that's fine and dandy for a community like ours, full of competitive players who want to improve and innovate. but our community represents a tiny fraction of the league community as a whole and riot's job isn't to cater to hardcore innovators and experimenters. they need to not alienate the bads, the noobs, the real meat and bones of league. we've already seen historically that riot's willing to nerfbat anything that's remotely strong so as to not alienate their largest audience, casual players. in this same manner, they won't open up the possibility of completely banning out an entire position from a casual player

definitely not what i wanted to hear, but i see where they were coming from.
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
May 26 2013 08:16 GMT
#2877
So there is no way Riot is going to increase the number of ban. Ok its good to know. Pro should definately expand their champions poll then.
Terran
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 08:24:16
May 26 2013 08:17 GMT
#2878
On May 26 2013 17:00 ChaoSbringer wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-cinematic-twist-fate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEnsqpThaFg

This shit is amazing.

I'm very iffy on this one. TF vs Fiddle, okay. Ryze vs Noc, alright. Garen vs Kat... is this a duel video? Oh wait, Tryn(in a skin, wat), oh and Annie, oh and Baron but looking super different.

Seems a little scatterbrained to me.

If I don't post the Varus thread by 2k, Neo has the right to temp ban me

Came to TL after watching a Flash vs Berserk final(I think it was a GOM tournament?) Burrowed for a bit and joined later. SC attracted me for the story/rts gameplay, but I hated PvP. 1v1 is too stressful for me, so I watched it as a spectator sports. That continues with SC2. After the first few GOM leagues I took a year long hiatus from WoL watching. The meta was so boring to me. Came back to SC2 somewhat when KESPA finally switched to it, and only now came back to it fully with HotS. The game is fun for me to watch again.
dartoo
Profile Joined May 2010
India2889 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-05-26 08:18:11
May 26 2013 08:17 GMT
#2879
On May 26 2013 17:00 ChaoSbringer wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/league-legends-cinematic-twist-fate

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=tEnsqpThaFg

This shit is amazing.



Wow that was fkin awesome!!!! Twisted fate opening yaaay!


Kat was not as sexy as the one in the loading screen but yeah pretty cool!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
May 26 2013 08:18 GMT
#2880
Knowing Riot, the new ban system will come with the new client that they're going to unveil at the end of 2013.

(i'm simply taking a guess they will release one by the end of 2013)
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