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LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 11:44:50
April 12 2013 11:44 GMT
#621
people focus a lot on poke champions in proving grounds aram, but with a ton of ambient gold you can do well on bruisers or assassins, too. Depends on teamcomp, but i had some nightmare games against Udyr etc


poke and heal was much more important on old SR aram imo.
Serelitz
Profile Joined April 2011
Netherlands2895 Posts
April 12 2013 11:50 GMT
#622
I tried that arsonist udyr build in ARAM that someone suggested in GD, it didn't go over very well with my team lol.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 12:16:28
April 12 2013 12:12 GMT
#623
Her stun knocks people back? Only if they're in melee range, and I cannot think of any situations where you wouldn't want it to knock them back in that case.

Lux bind has 1 second shorter cooldown at max rank, is that even worth mentioning -_-


The rest of your post is basically "Lux is a different champion and has different things" which is my point exactly wtf?


I hope you understand the difference between Lux binding a Veigar in 1v1 and Syndra stunning a Veigar 1v1.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 12:30:45
April 12 2013 12:24 GMT
#624
Lux is a different champion and has different things.

That said, when you want some decent long range poke with a strong burst fullcombo, Lux does outshine Syndra overall. Why do you think Link has been picking Lux constantly over Syndra?

Syndra does have advantages over lux (low cooldown bread&butter nuke being the most obvious one) but it's just not in a department pros value right now?
h3r1n6
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Iceland2039 Posts
April 12 2013 12:35 GMT
#625
On April 12 2013 20:44 LaNague wrote:
people focus a lot on poke champions in proving grounds aram, but with a ton of ambient gold you can do well on bruisers or assassins, too. Depends on teamcomp, but i had some nightmare games against Udyr etc


poke and heal was much more important on old SR aram imo.



I've had success with Udyr in aram too, which I didn't expect. I can't remember my build anymore. Involved a shurelyas, but other than that, no idea.

I don't like poke champions either and Nidalee is overrated in aram anyway, as long as the other team has something to engage with. My favorites are probably Kat and Akali, there is always a fight to clean up.

40% cdr+tank/ Ashe is hilarious too, always slowing everything and shooting ults every minute, while being quite tanky and baiting people to dive you all the time.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 12:58:43
April 12 2013 12:58 GMT
#626
My favorites in ARAM are ad carries, or anything that can be played like an AD carry. 550+ Ranged Autoattacks OP.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 12 2013 13:06 GMT
#627
Where did crumbzz go?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 12 2013 13:17 GMT
#628
On April 12 2013 22:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Where did crumbzz go?

They didn't say why he wasn't available for this week's LCS, so I'm guessing it's a personal matter.
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
April 12 2013 13:18 GMT
#629
I dunno, I love AP Kog on ARAM. Fun, Fun, that.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 13:27:42
April 12 2013 13:22 GMT
#630
Aagh haven't laughed so hard in forever while playing LoL, Zed with Black Cleaver, Ravenous Hydra, BotRK and Giants Belt, get 5v1'd and get a triple kill with 1 at 10% hp, stayed at like 20% for forever, just lifestealing with Hydra haha

Also one situation where I escaped after a tower dive at like 300 hp and have their jungler chasing after me, I find a huge enemy creepwave and SLLLUUUURRRPPP it, healing to 1800 hp and then kill the jungler xD This build is so legit.


Ravenous Hydra also turns jungler ganks on like toplane where you have a large wave pushing towards your tower into something completely hilarious.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2013 15:03 GMT
#631
Why in hell whould you compare Lux and Syndra? ôo Syndra's closer to Orianna in playstyle and range.

On April 12 2013 16:25 TheYango wrote:
So basically it's -repick without the awkwardness of reduced starting gold.

Though TBH since ARAM is pretty casual anyway, they probably could have done reduced starting gold for repicks anyway.

I still think ARAM needs to use the whole champion pool by default rather than only rolling champs you have. ARAM smurfs are too imba the way it is now.

Considering how disjoint the tech seems to be for the lobby client and the actual in-game client I'm not sure if they would currently be able to reduce starting gold based on what happened in the lobby. Not that it can't be done, juste that it's not atm.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 12 2013 15:06 GMT
#632
On April 12 2013 22:06 Sufficiency wrote:
Where did crumbzz go?

He had some sort of family issue come up and had to travel to Venezuela.(Source.)
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 15:10:27
April 12 2013 15:09 GMT
#633
On April 13 2013 00:03 Alaric wrote:
Why in hell whould you compare Lux and Syndra? ôo Syndra's closer to Orianna in playstyle and range.

Show nested quote +
On April 12 2013 16:25 TheYango wrote:
So basically it's -repick without the awkwardness of reduced starting gold.

Though TBH since ARAM is pretty casual anyway, they probably could have done reduced starting gold for repicks anyway.

I still think ARAM needs to use the whole champion pool by default rather than only rolling champs you have. ARAM smurfs are too imba the way it is now.

Considering how disjoint the tech seems to be for the lobby client and the actual in-game client I'm not sure if they would currently be able to reduce starting gold based on what happened in the lobby. Not that it can't be done, juste that it's not atm.

It really shouldn't be that difficult to implement, you only need to send one boolean variable after all


How well can Syndra make game-winning / epic plays that are highlight reel material?


League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 15:18:35
April 12 2013 15:17 GMT
#634
On April 13 2013 00:09 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 00:03 Alaric wrote:
Why in hell whould you compare Lux and Syndra? ôo Syndra's closer to Orianna in playstyle and range.

On April 12 2013 16:25 TheYango wrote:
So basically it's -repick without the awkwardness of reduced starting gold.

Though TBH since ARAM is pretty casual anyway, they probably could have done reduced starting gold for repicks anyway.

I still think ARAM needs to use the whole champion pool by default rather than only rolling champs you have. ARAM smurfs are too imba the way it is now.

Considering how disjoint the tech seems to be for the lobby client and the actual in-game client I'm not sure if they would currently be able to reduce starting gold based on what happened in the lobby. Not that it can't be done, juste that it's not atm.

It really shouldn't be that difficult to implement, you only need to send one boolean variable after all


How well can Syndra make game-winning / epic plays that are highlight reel material?


If anyone can find that Bjergsen Pentakill on Syndra from early LCS weeks, that'd be perfect here.

That was easier than I thought, though maybe not the best example:

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qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
April 12 2013 15:25 GMT
#635
It's always good to see EG practicing hard for LCS, with streaming, push ups, cooking and everything.
Best Teemo World
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 12 2013 15:31 GMT
#636
On April 13 2013 00:17 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 00:09 Shikyo wrote:
On April 13 2013 00:03 Alaric wrote:
Why in hell whould you compare Lux and Syndra? ôo Syndra's closer to Orianna in playstyle and range.

On April 12 2013 16:25 TheYango wrote:
So basically it's -repick without the awkwardness of reduced starting gold.

Though TBH since ARAM is pretty casual anyway, they probably could have done reduced starting gold for repicks anyway.

I still think ARAM needs to use the whole champion pool by default rather than only rolling champs you have. ARAM smurfs are too imba the way it is now.

Considering how disjoint the tech seems to be for the lobby client and the actual in-game client I'm not sure if they would currently be able to reduce starting gold based on what happened in the lobby. Not that it can't be done, juste that it's not atm.

It really shouldn't be that difficult to implement, you only need to send one boolean variable after all


How well can Syndra make game-winning / epic plays that are highlight reel material?


If anyone can find that Bjergsen Pentakill on Syndra from early LCS weeks, that'd be perfect here.

That was easier than I thought, though maybe not the best example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XVH12ziJf2g

Bjergsen is aight.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2013 15:31 GMT
#637
Syndra has a knock-back. That's enough to say "NOPE" to any Lee/Jarvan/Vi/Amumu that tries to initiate a gank using their gap closer. :3
(Granted they shouldn't, but it was fun as hell to stop a camping Amumu 3 times in a row this way. Then it became tiresome because camping is camping.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
April 12 2013 15:36 GMT
#638
On April 13 2013 00:09 Shikyo wrote:
How well can Syndra make game-winning / epic plays that are highlight reel material?

it's really easy, just hit a multi-person stun.

or save your teammates from being hit by flying lee sins.



the converse is that if you miss your stun, it will definitely be a lowlight.

i think her skillcap is overrated if even someone like me can play her well.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 16:03:09
April 12 2013 15:59 GMT
#639
I don't mean hitting a multi-person stun, I mean actual incredible plays o_O Like with Zed slowing the enemy with clone, then having them dash to you, swapping places with the clone and then slowing the enemy again and getting away like that...(actually that's not all that incredible but you can add some stuff in) I think most of it would have to do with some intelligent stuns, though.

I guess there's enough potential, maybe I should now permanently buy her <.<


Also, my first Pentakill on Zed! ^-^ By the way, as Ravenous Hydra makes your autos apply a stack of BC to everyone around you, Zed actually becomes an AoE monster instead of just single target burst. This build really feels so good, even though it's against noobies... The passive Hydra heal along with Warmogs also enables you to heal as if it was the old Warmogs assuming 3k hp.

And yes I feel like advocating Ravenous Hydra on everything that likes Black Cleaver and has some AoE.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
April 12 2013 16:00 GMT
#640
In case anyone was wondering: Annie still completely ridiculous. Really good against assassins and stuff mid.

Only a few people caught it on my stream last night, but I played her as my last game. I was 2/1 at this point I think. Got 2 man ganked, 1v3 vs Kat, Malphite, and Nasus. Killed 2 and walked away as my team came to clean up the 3rd.

Really glad she's not popular, I wanna take ALL the credit for her.
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