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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 12 2013 17:26 GMT
#661
Also, Annie's ability to basically get a free kill at 6 is kind of the greatest thing on Earth.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 12 2013 17:26 GMT
#662
On April 13 2013 02:23 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, range is her biggest weakness. But the way the meta is right now, people are perfectly happy engaging on me.

Just ban lux and gg


Why ban Lux, Soniv's a jerk T_T


He hates happiness and light almost as much as he hates AD assassins.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 17:30:26
April 12 2013 17:29 GMT
#663
On April 13 2013 02:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:23 Ketara wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, range is her biggest weakness. But the way the meta is right now, people are perfectly happy engaging on me.

Just ban lux and gg


Why ban Lux, Soniv's a jerk T_T


He hates happiness and light almost as much as he hates AD assassins.


He says that but don't believe him. His real deal is that he abuses khazix for freelo.

Annie's reliant on flash, but it's a pretty fair deal considering Annie with Flash = guaranteed big play.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 17:31:49
April 12 2013 17:31 GMT
#664
Really to be fair, Annie can flash initiate, but in most team comps these days you're not relying on the AP burst mage to initiate fights.

And yeah, Annie flash ult stuns are pretty goddamn hard to stop.

I think she's super strong and I don't see why she doesn't get more play.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#665
On April 13 2013 02:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:23 Ketara wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, range is her biggest weakness. But the way the meta is right now, people are perfectly happy engaging on me.

Just ban lux and gg


Why ban Lux, Soniv's a jerk T_T


He hates happiness and light almost as much as he hates AD assassins.

He was giggling more gleefully than Annie's voice actor while playing Kha'Zix yesterday...

Also Viktor's laser is shorter than TF's Q (otherwise I'd be more than happy to poke them while they cower under tower >_>).
Ban Lux, TF, Anivia. :[
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 12 2013 17:35 GMT
#666
On April 13 2013 02:08 Aezo- wrote:
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On April 12 2013 22:22 Shikyo wrote:
Aagh haven't laughed so hard in forever while playing LoL, Zed with Black Cleaver, Ravenous Hydra, BotRK and Giants Belt, get 5v1'd and get a triple kill with 1 at 10% hp, stayed at like 20% for forever, just lifestealing with Hydra haha

Also one situation where I escaped after a tower dive at like 300 hp and have their jungler chasing after me, I find a huge enemy creepwave and SLLLUUUURRRPPP it, healing to 1800 hp and then kill the jungler xD This build is so legit.


Ravenous Hydra also turns jungler ganks on like toplane where you have a large wave pushing towards your tower into something completely hilarious.



What order do you build those items in? Hydra first ?

Yeah, Hydra's awesome if you get it on like first back(before boots). You'll be able to trade like a boss every time they get in W range and your burst will be wonderful.

It's kind of meh if you cannot farm / are behind because you want the BotRK reasonably soon afterwards, but Zed tends to suck horribly while behind anyway and he farms like a boss(even moreso with hydra) so I don't see that as that big of a problem...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 12 2013 17:38 GMT
#667
On April 13 2013 02:35 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:08 Aezo- wrote:
On April 12 2013 22:22 Shikyo wrote:
Aagh haven't laughed so hard in forever while playing LoL, Zed with Black Cleaver, Ravenous Hydra, BotRK and Giants Belt, get 5v1'd and get a triple kill with 1 at 10% hp, stayed at like 20% for forever, just lifestealing with Hydra haha

Also one situation where I escaped after a tower dive at like 300 hp and have their jungler chasing after me, I find a huge enemy creepwave and SLLLUUUURRRPPP it, healing to 1800 hp and then kill the jungler xD This build is so legit.


Ravenous Hydra also turns jungler ganks on like toplane where you have a large wave pushing towards your tower into something completely hilarious.



What order do you build those items in? Hydra first ?

Yeah, Hydra's awesome if you get it on like first back(before boots). You'll be able to trade like a boss every time they get in W range and your burst will be wonderful.

It's kind of meh if you cannot farm / are behind because you want the BotRK reasonably soon afterwards, but Zed tends to suck horribly while behind anyway and he farms like a boss(even moreso with hydra) so I don't see that as that big of a problem...

Hydra so good on fuckton of melee champs. It's a really nice replacement for bloodthirster.
liftlift > tsm
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 12 2013 17:42 GMT
#668
On April 13 2013 02:35 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:23 Ketara wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, range is her biggest weakness. But the way the meta is right now, people are perfectly happy engaging on me.

Just ban lux and gg


Why ban Lux, Soniv's a jerk T_T


He hates happiness and light almost as much as he hates AD assassins.

He was giggling more gleefully than Annie's voice actor while playing Kha'Zix yesterday...

Also Viktor's laser is shorter than TF's Q (otherwise I'd be more than happy to poke them while they cower under tower >_>).
Ban Lux, TF, Anivia. :[


WHOA PLAYING BUG wat a traitor to his cause.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35146 Posts
April 12 2013 17:56 GMT
#669
On April 13 2013 01:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On April 13 2013 01:12 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 13 2013 01:11 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 13 2013 01:10 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 13 2013 01:00 jcarlsoniv wrote:
In case anyone was wondering: Annie still completely ridiculous. Really good against assassins and stuff mid.

Only a few people caught it on my stream last night, but I played her as my last game. I was 2/1 at this point I think. Got 2 man ganked, 1v3 vs Kat, Malphite, and Nasus. Killed 2 and walked away as my team came to clean up the 3rd.

Really glad she's not popular, I wanna take ALL the credit for her.

pr0lly played her in the LCS so you won't get too much hipster credit for playing her.


I can vouch that Soniv was pimping Annie at PAX a few weeks ago, but there's no proof. =P

Oh I believe him, but the general LoL public won't lol.


'Tis quite sad really.

There aren't many match ups that I dislike when I'm playing her. You can also pretty much build whatever items you need, her inherent power is amazing. I love the flexibility.

@alaric: yeah our Ashe was good. I love having her on my team with Annie. Actually, I love anyone who has any form of hard cc. Makes chain stun -> death super easy.

Just wait for health pots to be limited and then spam Viktor again.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
April 12 2013 17:59 GMT
#670
Yo no hating on my bug welcome to the darkside soniv
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 12 2013 18:00 GMT
#671
thing is, annie + another aoe stun/root type thing is basically a won teamfight with any sort of coordination.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 12 2013 18:02 GMT
#672
You mean, like how it should be with Sona?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
April 12 2013 18:05 GMT
#673
On April 13 2013 03:02 Alaric wrote:
You mean, like how it should be with Sona?

And varus.
liftlift > tsm
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 18:07:00
April 12 2013 18:06 GMT
#674
Sona + Annie n1 initates

I feel like Annie's is a little easier because its an instant point and click as opposed to a giant "linear skillshot".

i really like bot lanes where the AD contributes some sort of hard CC, like Ashe or Varus. It helps soooo much in getting kills and makes them so much better at teamfights.
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AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 12 2013 18:11 GMT
#675
pretty nice lee sin highlight reel again Shake!
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 18:31:33
April 12 2013 18:26 GMT
#676
Oh that did not just happen...

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]



The build is seriously so good when you're ahead, try it <.< Here the turning point was me getting ganked 1v5 and getting a double kill and 3 others low and then my teammates cleaning them up and us getting double inhibitor. Kayle ragequit at lvl 3 because she got first blooded and I didn't let her mid.

Nothing could lane against me even at 15 minutes when my inventory had just a Hydra and boots.


And yes I'm in a shit league >_>

And yes I'll be advocating Ravenous Hydra...

1200 points until 6300 IP... I don't think I'll feel like playing another ~15 games today >_< But a 4v5 win after my first penta kill with Zed, I guess the day could be worse...
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 12 2013 19:11 GMT
#677
I really wish the Tiamat/Hydra active could be used while moving.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-12 19:15:51
April 12 2013 19:12 GMT
#678
The Locicero thread is that way ---->

Hydra/Brutalizer/GiantBelt core on Zed is pretty friggin awesome though. Been doing it in top lane, and though I've been losing the games, in both games I was like 3-0 / 5-1 but the rest of our (premade) team was ... not doing so well. Thus my complaint in the Zed thread about having a hard time figuring out when to dive in for a kill during a teamfight.

I feel like the only advantage of BORK over Hydra is when the other team is IMPRESSIVELY good at peeling/kiting, and I still can't justify 40 AS over 50 AD on an AD caster assassin who has an AD multiplier.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 12 2013 19:20 GMT
#679
On April 13 2013 02:42 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2013 02:35 Alaric wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:26 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:23 Ketara wrote:
On April 13 2013 02:10 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Yes, range is her biggest weakness. But the way the meta is right now, people are perfectly happy engaging on me.

Just ban lux and gg


Why ban Lux, Soniv's a jerk T_T


He hates happiness and light almost as much as he hates AD assassins.

He was giggling more gleefully than Annie's voice actor while playing Kha'Zix yesterday...

Also Viktor's laser is shorter than TF's Q (otherwise I'd be more than happy to poke them while they cower under tower >_>).
Ban Lux, TF, Anivia. :[


WHOA PLAYING BUG wat a traitor to his cause.

Asmo knows I'm all about the bug (dat poor Zilean). I play a lot of Zed and Bug mid, I'm kinda of a bad person.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 12 2013 19:21 GMT
#680
One time a team was really bad and I won with Rageblade Udyr mid 4v5

Rageblade new core item on Udyr def
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