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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
I like to put "conversationally proficient" on my resume with regards to my Chinese skills. Hopefully interviewers never actually ask me about it. :D | ||
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Craton
United States17281 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote: I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn. I doubt it. Finnish and Russian are probably way harder as far as "European" languages go. and lol @ English being hard. I think English and Spanish are some of the easiest languages to learn... at least compared to French and German. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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nyxnyxnyx
Indonesia2978 Posts
written, its a different beast | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:05 ticklishmusic wrote: Chinese is a good language, just a ton of work to memorize words, I imagine grammar may be hard for non-native speakers as well. I like to put "conversationally proficient" on my resume with regards to my Chinese skills. Hopefully interviewers never actually ask me about it. :D What if your interviewer *IS* Chinese?  | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:06 Craton wrote: They will. And how many will actually know Chinese? I have a B2 in German language proficiency, been asked about it every interview I've ever had, but have never had to go further than "Ja, ich spreche Deutsch." | ||
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AsnSensation
Germany24009 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:37 iCanada wrote: And how many will actually know Chinese? I have a B2 in German language proficiency, been asked about it every interview I've ever had, but have never had to go further than "Ja, ich spreche Deutsch." I've always wanted to know how english natives feel about learning Nominativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Akkusativ and especially the 10.000 different versions of "the" (der, die, das) :D I can imagine that it was quite a pain in the ass. | ||
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Zizoz
United States232 Posts
On April 28 2013 13:30 thenexusp wrote: Riot hides the winrates of (non-challenger) people, but I find it interesting that looking at a player's profile you can only see the number of ranked games they've played, and when you look at the division he's in you can only see the number of wins they have It's like Riot doesn't think we can put 2 and 2 together I don't think this works, because the number of games includes ranked team games, while the number of wins is only for soloqueue. You can find out the number of wins and games for any given ranked team that still exists, but if the person played on a team that they have since left or, worse, no longer exists, I don't think you can find out how many wins and losses they had with those teams. Nor can you know whether or not they played on such a team. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:47 AsnSensation wrote: I've always wanted to know how english natives feel about learning Nominativ, Genitiv, Dativ and Akkusativ and especially the 10.000 different versions of "the" (der, die, das) :D I can imagine that it was quite a pain in the ass. It was weird. I had to learn those concepts in English first, how they exist in English, because they do exist, they just are kind of swept under the rug in how the language is spoken and has evolved. I always just kind of liked german though. My parents implored me to learn a second language as long as I can remember, and when I was young I hated french. I think biggest differences in learning the languages was just that German is much closer to English, and my German teacher was just much much better than my French teacher. Dont get me wrong, was confusing as all hell, but I learned German and highschool and the class was very loosely structured, just a great environment. Didn't really feel like a class, felt more like a two hour spare where I got to go watch movies and just have group discussions on... whatever. | ||
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Lord Tolkien
United States12083 Posts
On April 28 2013 21:11 Shikyo wrote: Soo who exactly counters Fiora in lane? Malphite is the only one? But if I rush Spirit Visage... isn't that laneable as well? Actually LW would probably be better hm... Fiora has a number of unfavorable skill matchups: Jax, and Riven for instance favor them provided they're good at their champions and know the matchup (that's fairly rare). Shen's a really annoying matchup for Fiora, as is Malphite. Yorick in S2 use to be terrible for Fiora, but I haven't played that matchup post-nerf in S3 (I've met a couple other rare Fiora players who say it's much, much more favorable now). Same with Rumble after removing his ultimate's burst, I'd imagine. I actually haven't tried the Elise matchup (it shouldn't be too bad, honestly). Renekton does well vs Fiora, actually (as will Nasus if he has heavy jungle pressure to gimp Fiora's early game), but skill matchup as well. Also, Teemo vs Fiora is a surprisingly even skill matchup. But in general, tanky teams counter Fiora. There's alot on unfavorable skill matchups, but there aren't very many strong counter lanes. EDIT: Speaking of Chinese... I can only read Hanyu effectively now outside really basic characters (language atrophy too stronk). And when I've gone back to China, they tell me I sound like an American (true), and look like a Korean (wat). | ||
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Artok
Netherlands2219 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:15 Sufficiency wrote: I doubt it. Finnish and Russian are probably way harder as far as "European" languages go. and lol @ English being hard. I think English and Spanish are some of the easiest languages to learn... at least compared to French and German. russian is easy as hell, no idea why would anyone consider it hard ;O | ||
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Zaphod Beeblebrox
Denmark697 Posts
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote: I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn. Might not be the hardest to learn, but its one of the most difficult to be fluent in. The main reason for this is the staggering 40+ vowels in the danish language (I think english only has like 20 or so), making it really difficult to learn the correct pronunciation of many words. It should be said that there are other languages with even more vowels. (I am talking about vowel sounds, not letters if anyone is confused. Also I have seen different ways of counting the number of vowels - so the 40+ might not be the most correct number) Finnish is also a tough language to learn, due to its somewhat irregular structure of words. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On April 29 2013 03:20 Lord Tolkien wrote: Fiora has a number of unfavorable skill matchups: Jax, and Riven for instance favor them provided they're good at their champions and know the matchup (that's fairly rare). Shen's a really annoying matchup for Fiora, as is Malphite. Yorick in S2 use to be terrible for Fiora, but I haven't played that matchup post-nerf in S3 (I've met a couple other rare Fiora players who say it's much, much more favorable now). Same with Rumble after removing his ultimate's burst, I'd imagine. I actually haven't tried the Elise matchup (it shouldn't be too bad, honestly). Renekton does well vs Fiora, actually (as will Nasus if he has heavy jungle pressure to gimp Fiora's early game), but skill matchup as well. Also, Teemo vs Fiora is a surprisingly even skill matchup. But in general, tanky teams counter Fiora. There's alot on unfavorable skill matchups, but there aren't very many strong counter lanes. EDIT: Speaking of Chinese... I can only read Hanyu effectively now outside really basic characters (language atrophy too stronk). And when I've gone back to China, they tell me I sound like an American (true), and look like a Korean (wat). Fiora's winrate in most matchups, however, is inflated because most players playing Fiora are her dedicated zealots that play her far more often than a guy playing Renekton or Jax. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 29 2013 02:05 ticklishmusic wrote: Chinese is a good language, just a ton of work to memorize words, I imagine grammar may be hard for non-native speakers as well. I like to put "conversationally proficient" on my resume with regards to my Chinese skills. Hopefully interviewers never actually ask me about it. :D Chinese grammar is incredibly simple tbh. It's mostly the writing/reading that's difficult and also knowing idioms and figures of speech that can be hard. But basic grammar for Chinese is easy, especially compared to the nightmare that is english grammar. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
Riven I can sort of see though, not sure... Also, from my limited experience learning languages I'd say that Swedish and German are quite easy, Russian is a notch easier than them. English is more difficult than those(but you have much more exposure to them). Finnish is far more difficult than either of them. Japanese apart from the writing system is quite easy and logical. | ||
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Antyee
Hungary1011 Posts
Hungarian is pretty damn hard, at least that's what they say, and also how I feel. That means Finnish is also likely to be hard. | ||
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