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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 28 2013 12:41 GMT
#3961
I spent 9 weeks in Denmark and I can't remember anyone under the age of 60 who didn't speak english fluently.

I remember reading somewhere that Danish people have the best english for non native english speaking people. But I also visited Sweden for a day and it was similar there. If you want to travel there, just learn English and a few key phrases in Danish/Sweden/Norwegian. Many people have said it, but the languages are quite similar.

And not to bash the Danish people, but even they told me that Danish was a pointless language to learn haha.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 12:53:07
April 28 2013 12:52 GMT
#3962
Swedish would pretty much be the most "standard" language out of those and as a bonus it works in Finland everywhere as a native language as well(I wouldn't be as confident in Finnish natives understanding danish when swedish is just their second language for example) .
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 13:27:40
April 28 2013 13:23 GMT
#3963
Jax is so cool, you can build literally anything on him.

Today i went APstone, Rageblade, Randuins, sunfire. I smashed face, tomorrow I may purchase a dcap or perhaps nashors or maybe a BOTRK....

Except WTF Riot you expect me to pay like 86,000 ip for hybrid pen runes....fuuuuuck that. Suboptimal here I come.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
April 28 2013 13:24 GMT
#3964
On April 28 2013 21:52 Shikyo wrote:
Swedish would pretty much be the most "standard" language out of those and as a bonus it works in Finland everywhere as a native language as well(I wouldn't be as confident in Finnish natives understanding danish when swedish is just their second language for example) .


I would agree with this, out of the nordic languages swedish is probably the easiest to get around with. It took me some time to learn to understand norwegian, and I'm still struggling with danish, but I have never encountered anyone from norway or denmark that didn't understand me (though I've had to speak slowly at times ^^ ). Finnish is completely different to the rest, but they learn swedish as a second or third language in school. From what I have heard they are very good at it along the coast, and get worse and worse the further you get into the country. However, english should let you communicate with anyone anywhere pretty much.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
April 28 2013 13:28 GMT
#3965
On April 28 2013 20:51 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 20:34 Sponkz wrote:
On April 28 2013 20:13 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
On April 28 2013 16:48 zodde wrote:
On April 28 2013 16:31 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
i speak fluent english. just wondering which language would give most marginal benefit
i guess denmark is the LoL nation ?


LoL is really huge in Sweden too, feels like everyone I meet plays it :3 And if you know english, you don't need any other language. That goes for Denmark and Norway as well, everyone is taught english from a young age in school.

Are you going this summer?

Edit: Also, if you know one scandinavian language, you can communicate with/understand people from the other countries decently well, they're not that different.


not so soon!
the question is WHICH scandinavian language ); is there one thats best or something? WTB tier list for scandinavian languages




Without knowing your language skills, i just wanna say that there's a higher chance of you being able to communicate in English with any Scandinavian, than you trying to speak a Scandinavian language where your receiver will understand you Among the youth in all 3 countries, i'd say at least 80% (probably way higher) has the skills to speak with you on a standard conversation level.


i want to learn a language, just wondering which


As a Swedish person I would recommend picking a non-scandinavian langue. The main reason being that there's very little reason to since they're all only spoken by fairly few people and the vast majority of those people speak perfectly fine english. They're also fairly hard languages to learn I believe. And to be fair they don't even sound good. It just seems like very much effort for very little reward.

I'd rather have gone with german, french or spanish. Or even italian. All of those have vastly more native speakers than the scandinavian languages, and a decent amount of those are not very good english speakers. They're also languages that you might have use for when working/studying since they're so useful. Saying you speak spanish at a job interview and chances are the employer might see some use for that. Swedish not so much.

If you still want to learn a scandinavian language don't pick danish. Because it sounds horrible.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
April 28 2013 13:33 GMT
#3966
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 28 2013 13:48 GMT
#3967
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote:
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.

I doubt this. A lot.

I've learned danish for a while (I have danish relatives), and it's not even that bad. And DEFINETLY not the hardest in the world.

I would, however, agree that it doesn't even matter if you speak it, Danish Dudes are pretty good with english, and a lot of them speak german even.

Speculation: It's because Danish TV isn't dubbed, only subbed. So they watch a lot of stuff in English.
Screw schooling, if that was the case in German speaking countries, English levels would increase by 300% guaranteed (number completely pulled out of my ass, ok?)
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 28 2013 13:55 GMT
#3968
On April 28 2013 22:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote:
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.

I doubt this. A lot.

I've learned danish for a while (I have danish relatives), and it's not even that bad. And DEFINETLY not the hardest in the world.

I would, however, agree that it doesn't even matter if you speak it, Danish Dudes are pretty good with english, and a lot of them speak german even.

Speculation: It's because Danish TV isn't dubbed, only subbed. So they watch a lot of stuff in English.
Screw schooling, if that was the case in German speaking countries, English levels would increase by 300% guaranteed (number completely pulled out of my ass, ok?)

Well I'd be inclined to agree. My understanding of japanese is pretty decent and it's almost entirely from anime and lyrics.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Vanka
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
China1336 Posts
April 28 2013 14:10 GMT
#3969
My recent response to my annoyance at certain champions bot lane is to run soraka with red pot start and my adc arpen rune page. It's not...ideal? but I'm having a lot of fun lol.
Bwaaaa
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia969 Posts
April 28 2013 14:22 GMT
#3970
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote:
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.

I would have thought that african language which is just toungue clicking would be harder.
Solaris.playgu
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Sweden480 Posts
April 28 2013 14:37 GMT
#3971
Urr well, as I said no sources. But I have a distinct memory of hearing that danish kids are the latest to be fluent in their own language. I guess that for grownups it really depends on where you come from and what languages you speak initially, while for kids you actually get a good measure of the difficulty without outside factors. Actually, this is quite interesting, I think I'll look into it a bit ^^
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
April 28 2013 14:56 GMT
#3972
So much nonsence in this thread...

Expected 1:Gambit 2 Fnatic 3 EG in lcs at the start of the season and all through the season (slight doubt if EG would get out of the slump in time for playoffs).

Something of importance is the fact that the EG playstyle is extremely strong and it always has been. WE often use the same style of play and this is when they are the most domi.nant
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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 28 2013 14:57 GMT
#3973
The clicks are really hard to pronounce correctly. Sesotho only clicks for Q, but still pretty difficult.

Despite this, I think Danish was a harder language to learn. That's just my 9 week exposure of Danish vs my 7 months of Sesotho exposure so take it for what it's worth.

It just seems to me that Sesotho (and the other zulu languages) is actually a fairly simple language, whereas Danish is much more complicated.

Not to mention when you hear a sentence in Danish (as a non native) it could be one word or fifteen. In Sesotho you can at least here the spaces in the words.
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Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 15:09:35
April 28 2013 15:08 GMT
#3974
Does Mikael's Crucible work the same way a qss will? Is there anything that these items do not remove?

EDIT: I guess dot isn't removed, but it has a heal.
Stuck.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 28 2013 15:12 GMT
#3975
It removes the same things as Cleanse, and it has a travel time on the projectile too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
April 28 2013 15:24 GMT
#3976
On April 29 2013 00:12 Alaric wrote:
It removes the same things as Cleanse, and it has a travel time on the projectile too.

Not quite. Cleanse gets rid of the ignite DoT but Crucible doesn't.

Actually the things that Crucible removes are very clearly enumerated on the Crucible itself. It's pretty much any CC that is reduced by tenacity.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 28 2013 15:37 GMT
#3977
I think I may have just missed the conversation but if you want to learn Swedish you can always watch this:
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Chexx
Profile Joined May 2011
Korea (South)11232 Posts
April 28 2013 16:05 GMT
#3978
On April 28 2013 22:55 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 22:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote:
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.

I doubt this. A lot.

I've learned danish for a while (I have danish relatives), and it's not even that bad. And DEFINETLY not the hardest in the world.

I would, however, agree that it doesn't even matter if you speak it, Danish Dudes are pretty good with english, and a lot of them speak german even.

Speculation: It's because Danish TV isn't dubbed, only subbed. So they watch a lot of stuff in English.
Screw schooling, if that was the case in German speaking countries, English levels would increase by 300% guaranteed (number completely pulled out of my ass, ok?)

Well I'd be inclined to agree. My understanding of japanese is pretty decent and it's almost entirely from anime and lyrics.


If you dont have an asian native language and never studied japanese. I highly doubt that.
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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 16:43:25
April 28 2013 16:42 GMT
#3979
On April 29 2013 01:05 Chexx wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 28 2013 22:55 Shikyo wrote:
On April 28 2013 22:48 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 28 2013 22:33 Solaris.playgu wrote:
I have no sources on this, so don't quote me, but I think danish is supposed to be the hardest language in the world to learn.

I doubt this. A lot.

I've learned danish for a while (I have danish relatives), and it's not even that bad. And DEFINETLY not the hardest in the world.

I would, however, agree that it doesn't even matter if you speak it, Danish Dudes are pretty good with english, and a lot of them speak german even.

Speculation: It's because Danish TV isn't dubbed, only subbed. So they watch a lot of stuff in English.
Screw schooling, if that was the case in German speaking countries, English levels would increase by 300% guaranteed (number completely pulled out of my ass, ok?)

Well I'd be inclined to agree. My understanding of japanese is pretty decent and it's almost entirely from anime and lyrics.


If you dont have an asian native language and never studied japanese. I highly doubt that.

Iunno...I know a good number of people, Asian and non-Asian, who learned quite a decent amount of Japanese by just watching subbed anime.

Ofc, watching anime won't teach you how to read/write, but understanding and speaking can definitely be learned via watching lots of stuff. Same works with Korean and K-drama.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 28 2013 16:52 GMT
#3980
I always heard English and Mandarin Chinese are the hardest languages to learn from scratch.

I'm bad at all foreign languages, currently trying to just get a C in my French class so I never have to take it again xD
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