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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 28 2013 19:39 GMT
#4001
East Asian languages are hard mostly for their vocabulary/writing system. Grammar, especially tense formation and verb conjugation, are much simpler than, say French.

English is probably a complete nightmare, given that plenty of native English speakers are awful at it.
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ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
April 28 2013 19:45 GMT
#4002
On April 29 2013 04:39 xes wrote:
East Asian languages are hard mostly for their vocabulary/writing system. Grammar, especially tense formation and verb conjugation, are much simpler than, say French.

English is probably a complete nightmare, given that plenty of native English speakers are awful at it.


my english is very well you thank very much.
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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
April 28 2013 19:46 GMT
#4003
On April 29 2013 04:37 Antyee wrote:
I think English is quite easy.
Hungarian is pretty damn hard, at least that's what they say, and also how I feel.
That means Finnish is also likely to be hard.


Only native english speakers think it is hard. Finnish is really weird because from what i heard it is not connected to any other language except hungarian and has a lot of weird tenses and cases. My mother told me that russian is not that hard and pretty logical. I personally found french to be a lot harder then english, but part of that might also be that there is a lot more direct contact to english than there is to french.

However, a very depressing moment was when i went to France after learning french in school for 5 years and thinking that i could understand it reasonably well, and then not understanding a single word anyone said to me. Luckily for me I was in Alsace and they knew german there, so i did not starve. I don't think i can properly rate german being a native speaker, but it also has a lot of those things in it that i found very annoying in french, like random genders associated to nouns, cases that serve no purpose whatsoever, and similar stuff like that.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 28 2013 20:05 GMT
#4004
On April 29 2013 04:17 Ryuu314 wrote:
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On April 29 2013 02:05 ticklishmusic wrote:
Chinese is a good language, just a ton of work to memorize words, I imagine grammar may be hard for non-native speakers as well.

I like to put "conversationally proficient" on my resume with regards to my Chinese skills. Hopefully interviewers never actually ask me about it. :D

Chinese grammar is incredibly simple tbh. It's mostly the writing/reading that's difficult and also knowing idioms and figures of speech that can be hard. But basic grammar for Chinese is easy, especially compared to the nightmare that is english grammar.


Chinese has basically no grammar at all. You can piece together words in almost any order and it's OK.

The vocabulary, however, is vast and difficult.
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Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:13:39
April 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#4005
There is no point in discuss which language is the hardest to learn. Its all come down to culture. East Asians learn each other languages way faster than Westerners learning them. Westerners learn western languages way faster than Asian.
Back when I was in China learning Chinese, I was pretty good after one year of study but my westerners classmates cant even hold a conversation after one year of study.

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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 28 2013 20:13 GMT
#4006
On April 29 2013 04:39 xes wrote:
East Asian languages are hard mostly for their vocabulary/writing system. Grammar, especially tense formation and verb conjugation, are much simpler than, say French.

English is probably a complete nightmare, given that plenty of native English speakers are awful at it.

I always hear the "fact" that English is the hardest language to learn, but maybe that's just foreign language teachers trying to shame us into other languages lol
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 28 2013 20:15 GMT
#4007
Fiora vs Pantheon was the first lane I did lose. Got harrassed too much without answering and then allined at lvl 5 instead of waiting for 6, after that lane was just impossible :/

I guess against Pantheon because of his passive I need to wait for my animation before the second Q so that I can get up to 4 stacks, and need to wait until 2 to begin harrassing. Still worrying that I get harrassed too much by him before hitting 2 but meh..
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Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 28 2013 20:16 GMT
#4008
What language is hardest to learn depends on the person and what languages they speak.

Somebody who's native language is English has a much harder time learning Vietnamese than German, while somebody who's native language is Thai has a much harder time learning German than Vietnamese.


Arguing over what language is the hardest to learn is like waving a giant flag in the air that says "I've never learned another language before."
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:21:57
April 28 2013 20:20 GMT
#4009
English is simple as fuck. No conjugaison, pretty consistent in its syntax, it uses less tenses than others would (if you want to sound like a prick showing off his knowledge in French, there are a bunch of tenses, mainly past, that you won't see used even in literary books), few irregularities, gender neutrality for most noons thanks to the "it" pronoun...

I sometimes instinctively think a particular sentence in English when holding a conversation in French because its construction feels more natural in that language. >_>

On April 29 2013 05:15 Shikyo wrote:
Fiora vs Pantheon was the first lane I did lose. Got harrassed too much without answering and then allined at lvl 5 instead of waiting for 6, after that lane was just impossible :/

I guess against Pantheon because of his passive I need to wait for my animation before the second Q so that I can get up to 4 stacks, and need to wait until 2 to begin harrassing. Still worrying that I get harrassed too much by him before hitting 2 but meh..

Fiora level 1 is stronger than Panth's. Can't say that of a lot of champs (Darius' for example, because of his passive). Panth isn't particularly hard for Fiora, his passive is supposedly annoying but the most probable is that you fucked up somewhere.
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samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
April 28 2013 20:34 GMT
#4010
talking of language riot should just force move BR's to the Br server every game i have br teammates its a loss last 2 games 6 br and guess how many fed hard.

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Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
April 28 2013 20:35 GMT
#4011
i started to play jayce again, poke poke poke!
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
April 28 2013 20:41 GMT
#4012
On April 29 2013 05:34 samthesaluki wrote:
talking of language riot should just force move BR's to the Br server every game i have br teammates its a loss last 2 games 6 br and guess how many fed hard.


Racism isn't very attractive, Saluki~
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 28 2013 20:55 GMT
#4013
quick question what do you max after E on varus?
Bronze player stuck in platinum
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 20:58:25
April 28 2013 20:57 GMT
#4014
On April 29 2013 05:55 Nos- wrote:
quick question what do you max after E on varus?

Q - piercing arrow~
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 21:23:41
April 28 2013 20:59 GMT
#4015
On April 29 2013 05:20 Alaric wrote:
English is simple as fuck. No conjugaison, pretty consistent in its syntax, it uses less tenses than others would (if you want to sound like a prick showing off his knowledge in French, there are a bunch of tenses, mainly past, that you won't see used even in literary books), few irregularities, gender neutrality for most noons thanks to the "it" pronoun...

I sometimes instinctively think a particular sentence in English when holding a conversation in French because its construction feels more natural in that language. >_>

French grammar has always been my bane when I learned the language. y u so complicated? ლ(ಠ益ಠლ)

Fiora level 1 is stronger than Panth's. Can't say that of a lot of champs (Darius' for example, because of his passive). Panth isn't particularly hard for Fiora, his passive is supposedly annoying but the most probable is that you fucked up somewhere.

To be perfectly honest, it's a defensive lane. The first one to try and initiate a trade or all-in will probably lose due to minions (unless they're already ahead). Buy a Tabi and pots+vamp, and just heal through his spear harass. Fiora outscales Panth anyways, so just let the lane stay relatively passive, unless you see a strong opportunity (like early level 2 with his shield down), and take advantage of the fact he'll be ganking other lanes to take an advantage top lane. Ganks will swing the lane. If Panth initiates on Fiora, he's only getting one AA block and Fiora can take advantage of it; if Fiora initiates, its versus two-three AA blocks which makes things a bitch.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 28 2013 21:10 GMT
#4016
On April 29 2013 05:20 Alaric wrote:
English is simple as fuck. No conjugaison, pretty consistent in its syntax, it uses less tenses than others would (if you want to sound like a prick showing off his knowledge in French, there are a bunch of tenses, mainly past, that you won't see used even in literary books), few irregularities, gender neutrality for most noons thanks to the "it" pronoun...

I sometimes instinctively think a particular sentence in English when holding a conversation in French because its construction feels more natural in that language. >_>

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On April 29 2013 05:15 Shikyo wrote:
Fiora vs Pantheon was the first lane I did lose. Got harrassed too much without answering and then allined at lvl 5 instead of waiting for 6, after that lane was just impossible :/

I guess against Pantheon because of his passive I need to wait for my animation before the second Q so that I can get up to 4 stacks, and need to wait until 2 to begin harrassing. Still worrying that I get harrassed too much by him before hitting 2 but meh..

Fiora level 1 is stronger than Panth's. Can't say that of a lot of champs (Darius' for example, because of his passive). Panth isn't particularly hard for Fiora, his passive is supposedly annoying but the most probable is that you fucked up somewhere.

I definitely fucked up. Probably need to be more aggressive lvl 1 and especially 2 before he gets to lvl 3, yeah.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11507 Posts
April 28 2013 21:20 GMT
#4017
On April 29 2013 05:41 Ketara wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 05:34 samthesaluki wrote:
talking of language riot should just force move BR's to the Br server every game i have br teammates its a loss last 2 games 6 br and guess how many fed hard.


Racism isn't very attractive, Saluki~


I am pretty sure it isn't racism if you dislike a country or it's people. Country-cism? Nationalism is kind of the opposite, but kind of close too. I don't think there really is a word for that.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
April 28 2013 21:21 GMT
#4018
On April 29 2013 05:57 Mensol wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 29 2013 05:55 Nos- wrote:
quick question what do you max after E on varus?

Q - piercing arrow~

Really? I didn't think the base damage increase was really all that much, also the ad scaling on that thing's huge so I just left it at 1 point and maxed W instead. Not like you're really gonna hit many Qs in a real game either. I'll try both though, been doing E->W->Q but I feel like the damage is lacking, maybe leveling Q will remedy that.
Bronze player stuck in platinum
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
April 28 2013 21:27 GMT
#4019
Messing around with bots for first win of the day made me realize Jax's counter strike procs AoE lizard elder. Seriously unexpected.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-28 21:30:38
April 28 2013 21:28 GMT
#4020
personally i do Q W E. Q does quite a bit in lane on varus, but most people do EQW
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