On April 26 2013 11:30 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: So lets talk solo lane Lulu then! She seems to have good base values and shitty ratios. full mpen candidate? Item build? purpose in teamfights?
I'm really solid with her mechanically, so I wanna give it a run. I've only ever played her as a glass cannon mage, and theres a severe dropoff lategame. Holy fuck does she ever dominate mid tho.
IDK about other people, but I would probably want to prioritize CDR via athene or morello early.
Yeah, mana would be an issue too. Athenes would solve it for the most part but I worry that youre getting the wrong mix of stats for midgame when their top laner and jungler are who you're fuckin' with most
On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote: [quote] buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games
Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man.
I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs.
Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio.
Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol.
I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing.
what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash.
This is why most people create smurf accounts when they want to introduce friends to league.
I've introduced like 30-35 friends to league and have at least 20 smurfs at varying levels so that I could play with them when they first started. Low level play is so fun because you can do retarded builds, no one will rage at you, and even if you lose you can easily go positive or even if you go negative you can still have a ton of fun.
I remember when I started all my friends were lvl 30 but back then it didn't matter.You just pick 2 bruisers ignite/exhaust and rush lane bushes.The good old times <3.
Oh hey Wicked.
Also, what are the chances that there is a TPA skin bundle? And how would that work? If its likely I may buy the last of the set.
I think with their existing technology they'd have to bundle the champs with the skins, which would probably prevent them from pricing it at a point where many people would want to buy it
They need to get technology to reduce the price of bundles based on what you already own (and if you own all but one piece the price = the price of the missing piece) to get something like a TPA bundle working, IMO
On April 26 2013 11:30 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: So lets talk solo lane Lulu then! She seems to have good base values and shitty ratios. full mpen candidate? Item build? purpose in teamfights?
I'm really solid with her mechanically, so I wanna give it a run. I've only ever played her as a glass cannon mage, and theres a severe dropoff lategame. Holy fuck does she ever dominate mid tho.
She is crazy strong early, its just awful how your damage drops lategame. They fucking slayed her ratios. In my opinion its too much, shouldn't be played mid.
I also dont tbink the added magic damage on her autos would justify an aspd/onhit (nashors, malady, etc) either. seems like minimal damage.
as for her presence in teamfights, if shes a CC bot with decent early-midgame poke thanks to the strong base value of Q, she can do that just as well with no farm at all. So where's the gold gonna go? What does she lack that can be itemized, what can she do with farm to justify a solo lane?
I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs.
Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio.
Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol.
I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing.
what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash.
This is why most people create smurf accounts when they want to introduce friends to league.
I've introduced like 30-35 friends to league and have at least 20 smurfs at varying levels so that I could play with them when they first started. Low level play is so fun because you can do retarded builds, no one will rage at you, and even if you lose you can easily go positive or even if you go negative you can still have a ton of fun.
I remember when I started all my friends were lvl 30 but back then it didn't matter.You just pick 2 bruisers ignite/exhaust and rush lane bushes.The good old times <3.
Oh hey Wicked.
Also, what are the chances that there is a TPA skin bundle? And how would that work? If its likely I may buy the last of the set.
I think with their existing technology they'd have to bundle the champs with the skins, which would probably prevent them from pricing it at a point where many people would want to buy it
They need to get technology to reduce the price of bundles based on what you already own (and if you own all but one piece the price = the price of the missing piece) to get something like a TPA bundle working, IMO
Would be best if they just subtracted IP for w/e champs you didnt own, including letting you go negative.
On April 26 2013 07:29 ticklishmusic wrote: so the discussion about battlemage ezreal comes up now and then
why not battlemage urgot? not as mobile, but spamming spells on him can be pretty strong.
I still maintain that this idea of Lizard Elder + IBG makes more practical sense on Corki than on Ezreal, or even Urgot, given that:
1) Corki actually uses the regen stats and max mana. Ezreal hasn't the slightest need for that much mana/mana regen. 2) The build sacrifices itemized damage for Lizard Elder and IBG procs--Ezreal actually scales well off plain AD stats, so it's not really that great of an alternative--whereas Corki's overall itemized scaling has always been suspect due to his lack of high ratios or a steroid. He's more base damage-dependent. 3) Corki actually uses defensive stats better than Ezreal does because Corki has to fight consistently at that effective range of ~500-700. Ezreal's just using the IBG proc to become superfluously better at something he's already pretty much the best in the game at (kiting). Corki actually needs that area-of-effect damage/control that the IBG proc offers.
Corki might use it better, but I don't see why you would pick him. It helps with some of his weaknesses, but doesn't eliminate them. Corki isn't as mobile or long-range, so being that close up means it's pretty dangerous. Ez procs IBG with Q, while Corki needs to use autos. This is a pretty big deal, as Ez's ability to control a fight from long range is one of the reasons you pick up IBG. Ez isn't going to complain about the extra mana, either.
on another note AD Sona is so garbage now, yet I still manage to win with her. Beat a Draven/Thresh with her today. Strangely I keep losing lane with other ADs tho haha
Btw I know I've experienced/seen this myself and can't remember, but when a Vayne condemns a J4 after he pops ult, he flies out of the it or does he get stunned?
LULU FACTS (note: I am 95% sure about these, most sure at top) - Pix only has per-level scaling - Pix does not proc liandry's - Pix's damage will be dodged by Counterstrike - Pix's damage is reduced by the block mastery
EDIT: Condemn never works against created terrain, so jarvan will be popped out of it
Didn't they do a commando skins bundle back in the day? With galio and jarvan and lux and stuff. I don't remember how that worked, but wouldn't the same thing theoretically work for the TPA skins?
That's a really fun comp. An updated form of what Dignitas was doing with their protect the Kog comp (Lulu top, Soraka mid, Mundo jungle, Kog, and Taric/Janna support).
The thing about the Dignitas comp is that it's not just protect the Kog (they ran it with Corki before as well). The basic idea is that Soraka and her ridiculous MR shred (with CDR, in a sustained fight) amplifies the damage of everyone on the team if you have a magic damage heavy AD, so Soraka's Qs would amplify Lulu+Mundo+Kog/magic damage ADC+support damage, as well as her own. In addition to the difficulty of killing them (due to ridiculous anti-burst, thanks to pre-nerf Soraka/Lulu ratios), the longer the fight lasts, the stronger Dig's DPS was, which allowed them to pull back from some large early game deficits decisively.
It was a brilliant comp because of that.
That being said, the TPA comp is also very interesting (but much more ADC-centric).
The other main difference was that Dig kinda said "you can't kill Kog, vs. TPA "you cant catch Vayne." Like, if somehow SGS had gotten a nice flank, they coulda done it. Also, if you see 2 Supports picked in a pro game, how do you not say "wait a min...we need to pick kogmaw" or wait to see if you need to pick kog?
EPT
