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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 26 2013 13:54 GMT
#3701
On April 26 2013 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:32 AsnSensation wrote:
Do we have any resident Riven players here? This Box Box vs Best Riven NA exploded quite quickly with Megazero and Wickd joining the discussion, now Leaguepedia is holding a Riven 1v1 Tournament.



I'm loving this 1v1 trend shit. It makes for great additions to the pro drama. And like... GOOD pro drama, based on skill, not bullshit.

Wickd's Ignite/Exhaust cheese would like to have a word with you.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
GreyWander
Profile Joined April 2013
21 Posts
April 26 2013 13:57 GMT
#3702
On April 26 2013 22:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:32 AsnSensation wrote:
Do we have any resident Riven players here? This Box Box vs Best Riven NA exploded quite quickly with Megazero and Wickd joining the discussion, now Leaguepedia is holding a Riven 1v1 Tournament.

https://twitter.com/Leaguepedia/status/327766836173230080


I'm loving this 1v1 trend shit. It makes for great additions to the pro drama. And like... GOOD pro drama, based on skill, not bullshit.

Wickd's Ignite/Exhaust cheese would like to have a word with you.

Still lost.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:05:19
April 26 2013 13:57 GMT
#3703
On April 26 2013 20:45 Amui wrote:
As a new player, it's not a bad idea to start them off against easy or intermediate bots. IIRC the bots don't use runes or masteries(although they have inhuman reaction time and aim, so there is that tradeoff. Annie bot and Fiddle bot are scary as all hell).

They generally learn faster when you give them one thing at a time to work towards.

Intermediate bots have strange sets of runes. I recommend the newb play against other newbs instead of playing with his friend. His friend is a level 30. No shit the newb is going to get carried for a few games but he's going to have his ELO artificially increased and go 0-8 for his next 20-30 games. That's no fun and it's no way to learn. It's just fun for the friend because he can go positive in all his games by smurfing.

If the friend wants him to improve him can watch him and give him advice instead of playing on the same team as him.

If the friend just wants to have fun and it's no fun losing because he feeds, then just play arams.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:17:09
April 26 2013 14:16 GMT
#3704
On April 26 2013 22:57 GreyWander wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:32 AsnSensation wrote:
Do we have any resident Riven players here? This Box Box vs Best Riven NA exploded quite quickly with Megazero and Wickd joining the discussion, now Leaguepedia is holding a Riven 1v1 Tournament.

https://twitter.com/Leaguepedia/status/327766836173230080


I'm loving this 1v1 trend shit. It makes for great additions to the pro drama. And like... GOOD pro drama, based on skill, not bullshit.

Wickd's Ignite/Exhaust cheese would like to have a word with you.

Still lost.

To Nunu. What's this about "not bullshit"?

I still agree that it's fun, and the Riven v Riven mirror match is an amusing one.
GreyWander
Profile Joined April 2013
21 Posts
April 26 2013 14:25 GMT
#3705
On April 26 2013 23:16 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 26 2013 22:57 GreyWander wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:54 onlywonderboy wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:33 AsmodeusXI wrote:
On April 26 2013 22:32 AsnSensation wrote:
Do we have any resident Riven players here? This Box Box vs Best Riven NA exploded quite quickly with Megazero and Wickd joining the discussion, now Leaguepedia is holding a Riven 1v1 Tournament.

https://twitter.com/Leaguepedia/status/327766836173230080


I'm loving this 1v1 trend shit. It makes for great additions to the pro drama. And like... GOOD pro drama, based on skill, not bullshit.

Wickd's Ignite/Exhaust cheese would like to have a word with you.

Still lost.

To Nunu. What's this about "not bullshit"?

I still agree that it's fun, and the Riven v Riven mirror match is an amusing one.

Well I mean, Nunu is strong, but there's nothing bullshit about picking AP Nunu with Flash/Ignite. That's a realistic game scenario, which beat a "cheese build", so I don't see why there isn't at least a fair amount of skill involved.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2013 14:31 GMT
#3706
Well Nunu loses hard vs camping / ganking etc. whereas in straight 1v1 he is just about unbeatable, that's why it's not exactly realistic.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 14:37:56
April 26 2013 14:36 GMT
#3707
Well, for the sake of discussion, how would one play the riven vs riven Matchup? Obviously start fort pot + 6 health potions, but then what would you do to win the lane consistently, aside from having better combo mechanics.

Mirror matchups are often pretty dumb.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 26 2013 14:38 GMT
#3708
Honestly, tournament 1v1 should be 3 kills/2 towers, not FB/first tower. The only reason cheese is an option is that if you get the kill, you don't need to worry about how you play out the lane after both of your summoner's are down because the match is over.
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AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
April 26 2013 14:46 GMT
#3709
On April 26 2013 23:38 TheYango wrote:
Honestly, tournament 1v1 should be 3 kills/2 towers, not FB/first tower. The only reason cheese is an option is that if you get the kill, you don't need to worry about how you play out the lane after both of your summoner's are down because the match is over.


That's why they're making the 1v1 map. All-Stars hooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 26 2013 15:02 GMT
#3710
Fiora is seriously amazing. I hope they don't nerf her so I can gain freelo
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 26 2013 15:21 GMT
#3711
On April 27 2013 00:02 Shikyo wrote:
Fiora is seriously amazing. I hope they don't nerf her so I can gain freelo

Haha I wouldn't be too worried about them nerfing her since a lot of people consider her one of the weakest champs in the game. Now if she gets buffed and and becomes FotM then you should worry.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
April 26 2013 15:22 GMT
#3712
gotta love how there's always something secret OP for free elo, you Diamond 1 by end of next week shikyo?:D
Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
April 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#3713
On April 26 2013 23:31 Shikyo wrote:
Well Nunu loses hard vs camping / ganking etc. whereas in straight 1v1 he is just about unbeatable, that's why it's not exactly realistic.


Is there something that would make Nunu particularly susceptible to ganks? He doesn't push much, has a huge burst heal and is probably one of the best candidates for double killing people for trying to kill him.
I am the Town Medic.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 15:28:08
April 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#3714
Well he seems to have given up on Syndra according to his post saying he can't find a champ, so...

And Nunu has no escape. He's not weak by any means (high HP pool) but if you can catch him when he doesn't have a minion to nom, he has to pray Blood Boil will save enough time to get to tower before he dies.
(Last time somebody decided to play Nunu top while I was jungling, I accomodated to be top at level 3 with double buff, since we had Jarvan the level 2 was in his favor, and killing Nunu before his sustain can wear Jarvan down allows the lane to be much easier, esp. since Jarvan with a level advantage has strong burst due to base damage.)
I wouldn't try it with Nautilus however, because ganking at 3 gimps his clearing a ton.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
greggy
Profile Joined October 2010
United Kingdom1483 Posts
April 26 2013 15:24 GMT
#3715
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Wizidross/lol_champs_by_ulti

99/113, some I genuinely had no idea about.
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23462 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 15:41:53
April 26 2013 15:39 GMT
#3716
I got all of them but after about 105 i had to look at the league wiki list of champ portraits to pick up a few

anivia and the new champ were the last ones, i guessed lissandra because she was the new champ and i had no idea about the frozen tomb and it was similar to glacial storm. xerath/viktor/syndra took a whil ebecause they are all similar in my head in terms of idea and also 2 of the ADs that commentators never use the word for their ults (vayne/draven)
aka Teutonica
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
April 26 2013 15:43 GMT
#3717
Blocked at 111 at the moment, some names I had a hard time getting (like Cyclone, despite playing the champ the first thing I thought about was Janna, with such a name).
Looked up the portraits and one of the final 2 was so obvious in retrospect. x_x
+ Show Spoiler +
Impale for Skarner, the other one was Shadow Assault for Talon. I need to play him some more. :')
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
April 26 2013 15:55 GMT
#3718
On April 27 2013 00:24 greggy wrote:
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Wizidross/lol_champs_by_ulti

99/113, some I genuinely had no idea about.


I got 96, I knew Caitlin and Casseopia's but couldn't spell their names right (still can't lol). I didn't realize how many "Shadow something" ultimates there are lol.
I got nothin'...
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
April 26 2013 15:56 GMT
#3719
On April 27 2013 00:55 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2013 00:24 greggy wrote:
http://www.sporcle.com/games/Wizidross/lol_champs_by_ulti

99/113, some I genuinely had no idea about.


I got 96, I knew Caitlin and Casseopia's but couldn't spell their names right (still can't lol). I didn't realize how many "Shadow something" ultimates there are lol.

I had trouble with Eve. Should accept abbreviation imo, trash game.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-26 16:29:00
April 26 2013 16:03 GMT
#3720
New gamecribs episode, OddOne actually mentions Velocity at some point with Prolly at about 13:00's.
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