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On April 26 2013 07:54 Phunkapotamus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 04:42 thenexusp wrote:
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I'm pretty sure (99%) this is illegal, even if no money changes hands. Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash. If you're lvl 8 then it's normals and you should just faceroll over everyone anyway. X_X Also, at lvl 8, the chances of you getting matched vs someone with high normal ELO is low. More likely you'll get matched with other lvl 8ish smurfs of similar # of wins.
Accounts are free and if you run into this problem your friends should get smurfs to play with you so that everyone is low level. If you're worried about ruining games with your skill just select "veteran" and the system will detect your level of smurfitude soon enough. This is exactly what me and Monte did for some of his friends as they were leveling until they were 30. Sure our smurfs didn't have many champs but we're talking playing with friends here vs playing boring old solo queue and if you're really friends with someone I don't see why you wouldn't make that minor sacrifice.
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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On April 25 2013 11:13 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 25 2013 11:11 aRyuujin wrote:
so i'm lookint to pick up a new hipster mid/top, any suggestions? looking at syndra/ kha'zix / zed/ fizz/ ahri/cass/kat/lux?
I don't think that word means what you think it means. If you want some real hipster shit play Galio or Swain. They can go mid and top and no one plays them. And they're both strong imo.
Lulu top or bust.
The rest of the staff know how much I harp on about solo-lane Lulu.
On April 26 2013 04:00 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote:
is there a single AD who handily beats Draven in lane? Without a support I can depend on, who picks appropriately, I feel utterly helpless against that champion. 9 times out of 10 my support will straight-up lose the lane for me by hard engaging early on, despite the fact that I tell EVERY support I lane with in solo queue NOT to, because he gets so much bonus AD and will out-trade fucking everyone.
What the hell am I supposed to do? The odd time my support doesn't just lose automatically for me, I can farm up to the point where I'm relevant, but other times, even if that happens, we get a combination of zed jungle with kayle and nida solo lanes and there's just nothing we can do.
In a straight up lane scenario probably only Cait or Ez but you never fight or try to engage him and just poke/chip away, while sniping CS since your range means you can never be completely zoned out. Have I ever mentioned Draven passive pretty busted? Free BF Sword at lvl 5.
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It's his Q. His passive is stealing buff from junglers during smiteless leashes.
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On April 26 2013 07:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:34 sylverfyre wrote:On April 26 2013 07:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
so the discussion about battlemage ezreal comes up now and then
why not battlemage urgot? not as mobile, but spamming spells on him can be pretty strong. Isn't that the standard way to build Urgot? Muramana, ArPen, CDR? just in pubs, in progames they generally go for frozen heart etc. (but muramana is so much better than manamune that I imagine that now they of course would go for that if urgot was ever played in progames >< ) Then again I think with IBG the Urgot build might work even better. To be honest, I'm not really sure why Urgot's never ever played. He's one of the few ADs that didn't get hit by the movespeed meganerf for example. I know that his range got reduced by 300 which is kind of a big deal but even so... As you generally build tanky on him do you really need to be spamming from 1.5k range all the time? :/
I think it's because Urgot's kit is designed around being an early-mid game powerhouse with an emphasis on lane dominance. However, teams can easily just swap their ad+support to a different lane to avoid that matchup. On top of that, Urgot's not a very strong pusher so while you could zone and deny the enemy off laner pretty well, your team as a whole will be behind since the opposing ad+support can take your tower much faster than you can. Not to mention that junglers can easily just camp the off lane if you start to deny their off laner too much. Urgot gets pretty powerful with items, but his power curve isn't anything close to a more "traditional" ad carry. I don't think a farmed Urgot will be able to outcarry a farmed Tristana, for example.
Also, I don't think IBG would be all that great on Urgot seeing how I'm pretty sure his Q doesn't proc on-hit effects. People usually go Muramana->LW/BC/FH on Urgot.
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Is it just me or does this BoxBox guy seem kinda bad considering he's a sub for a (semi-)big team?
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i just played a game as ahri vs kassadin (never laned against him before) and i got my ass handed to me, tried to abuse the fact that hes melee and im range but somehow he just still output more damage with his nuke on me and once he turned 6 he just ults in, silence and im dead every time
any suggestions on starting item builds and playing the lane
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On April 26 2013 07:58 Shikyo wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:34 sylverfyre wrote:On April 26 2013 07:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
so the discussion about battlemage ezreal comes up now and then
why not battlemage urgot? not as mobile, but spamming spells on him can be pretty strong. Isn't that the standard way to build Urgot? Muramana, ArPen, CDR? just in pubs, in progames they generally go for frozen heart etc. (but muramana is so much better than manamune that I imagine that now they of course would go for that if urgot was ever played in progames >< ) Then again I think with IBG the Urgot build might work even better. To be honest, I'm not really sure why Urgot's never ever played. He's one of the few ADs that didn't get hit by the movespeed meganerf for example. I know that his range got reduced by 300 which is kind of a big deal but even so... As you generally build tanky on him do you really need to be spamming from 1.5k range all the time? :/ Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:54 Phunkapotamus wrote:On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:
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Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash. If you're lvl 8 then it's normals and you should just faceroll over everyone anyway. X_X Also, at lvl 8, the chances of you getting matched vs someone with high normal ELO is low. More likely you'll get matched with other lvl 8ish smurfs of similar # of wins. Nah you just get matched against lowbob lvl 30s. Still, the rune and mastery advantage is very significant and you will be depressed over losing to someone horrible because of that(Or they are so bad they lose even with rune and mastery advantage but they need to be quite bad then..)
The S3 Urgots I've seen go Muramana Brutalizer, THEN Glacial -> FH or IBG or other tanky items. I guess I should have clarified. Muramana, ArPen, tanky CDR. I've also seen Muramana -> Cleaver for more damage oriented builds.
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On April 26 2013 07:54 Phunkapotamus wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 04:42 thenexusp wrote:
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I'm pretty sure (99%) this is illegal, even if no money changes hands. Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash. If you're lvl 8 then it's normals and you should just faceroll over everyone anyway. X_X Also, at lvl 8, the chances of you getting matched vs someone with high normal ELO is low. More likely you'll get matched with other lvl 8ish smurfs of similar # of wins.
i wasn't talking about me smurfing.
when i first started i played with friends who were high level 20 or level 30 and it was really annoying to get matched up in lane against level 30s. it was already bad enough that i'm still learning how to play the game and what each character does, and then i had to deal with the fact that they do tons of damage to me for no other reason other than the fact that they had runes and masteries and i don't.
it's almost the same thing with some of my friends who are starting out now. some people don't want to smurf. some of them are different levels, so they have a level 12 with level 27 buddies who are also trying to get to 30.
there's definitely a good reason to rush to 30 just because of that. you're gonna learn anyway, why not learn when you have runes and masteries?
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On April 26 2013 08:34 FinestHour wrote:
i just played a game as ahri vs kassadin (never laned against him before) and i got my ass handed to me, tried to abuse the fact that hes melee and im range but somehow he just still output more damage with his nuke on me and once he turned 6 he just ults in, silence and im dead every time
any suggestions on starting item builds and playing the lane
Don't run away from him when he Q's you. If you run he'll outrade you every time. That's all he has to trade with until he gets his E up(most kassadins will get it at level 4, so it'll be up around level 5ish). Use the time to harass him with autos and skills. Post 6 it's like almost every other kassadin matchup, where he gets significantly harder to kill and can allin if you get low.
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On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 04:42 thenexusp wrote:On April 26 2013 04:35 LaM wrote:
Is there anywhere I could buy a cheap lvl 30 account? Decent runes/a few champs would be nice, but just a blank level 30 is fine too. I kinda wanna get a second smurf up and running and don't feel like grinding a third account to 30. One without any ranked this season (or better, ever) would be nice so I can boost it up quicker.
EDIT: If this is super illegal than sorry, I'm not sure how much Riot frowns upon this?? I'm pretty sure (99%) this is illegal, even if no money changes hands. Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash.
This is why most people create smurf accounts when they want to introduce friends to league.
I've introduced like 30-35 friends to league and have at least 20 smurfs at varying levels so that I could play with them when they first started. Low level play is so fun because you can do retarded builds, no one will rage at you, and even if you lose you can easily go positive or even if you go negative you can still have a ton of fun.
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On April 26 2013 09:04 overt wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 04:42 thenexusp wrote:
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I'm pretty sure (99%) this is illegal, even if no money changes hands. Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash. This is why most people create smurf accounts when they want to introduce friends to league. I've introduced like 30-35 friends to league and have at least 20 smurfs at varying levels so that I could play with them when they first started. Low level play is so fun because you can do retarded builds, no one will rage at you, and even if you lose you can easily go positive or even if you go negative you can still have a ton of fun.
I remember when I started all my friends were lvl 30 but back then it didn't matter.You just pick 2 bruisers ignite/exhaust and rush lane bushes.The good old times <3.
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On April 26 2013 09:10 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On April 26 2013 09:04 overt wrote:On April 26 2013 07:45 kainzero wrote:On April 26 2013 07:33 phyvo wrote:On April 26 2013 06:34 Schnake wrote:On April 26 2013 05:58 Louuster wrote:On April 26 2013 05:41 Caphe wrote:On April 26 2013 05:25 LaM wrote:On April 26 2013 05:01 greggy wrote:On April 26 2013 04:49 LaM wrote:
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Uhg. Ok. Wish it took less XP or something to get to 30 then. Ah well, time to buy an XP boost and spend a week locked in my room. buy an exp boost and farm intermediate twisted treeline bot games Is that the quickest way? Thanks for tip man. I think so, Wild Turle said in his stream that he just grinds 3v3 for his smurfs. Robertxlee has a video on his youtube, the idea is you cheese the bots but going 3 AD with red pot bot because they only send 1 there, then you end the game in 5 min for the highest xp/time ratio. Yep, this is the fastest way. Just finished 30 games like this yesterday, so fair warning, you will eventually go nuts after too many games lol. I don't understand the rush to get to 30. Buying xp boosts is silly since in the end everyone is far more IP limited than XP limited. Rushing bot games is mind melting and just unfun. Everything's much more fun just to taking your time and playing. what's not fun is when you play with friends and you automatically lose lane because you get matched at level 8 against a level 30 who has runes and masteries and you don't even have flash. This is why most people create smurf accounts when they want to introduce friends to league. I've introduced like 30-35 friends to league and have at least 20 smurfs at varying levels so that I could play with them when they first started. Low level play is so fun because you can do retarded builds, no one will rage at you, and even if you lose you can easily go positive or even if you go negative you can still have a ton of fun. I remember when I started all my friends were lvl 30 but back then it didn't matter.You just pick 2 bruisers ignite/exhaust and rush lane bushes.The good old times <3.
Oh hey Wicked.
Also, what are the chances that there is a TPA skin bundle? And how would that work? If its likely I may buy the last of the set.
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So I've been doing awful and having had tons of trouble carrying so I've been looking at some forgotten champions that no one thinks are good ...
I've been playing quite a bit of Fiora today(mid + top, prefer mid), I really doubt her being worthless and unviable, especially mid. Her harrass already at lvl 1 and especially 2 is quite scary and her kit is clearly that of an assassin so mid suits her very well in this AD assassin meta. Another advantage in mid is that she's totally immune to autoattack harrass from ranged mages because she can W on reaction so she'll definitely have no sustain problems there. Her waveclear is poor but her lasthitting is Zed level and she rushes Tiamat so that shouldn't be a gigantic deal. With a double lifesteal + Spirit Visage build her survivability also feels quite high, many things seem to struggle to dent her enough in skirmishes and even in teamfights she can do her thing and a Hydraed ult on a clumped team is incredible amounts of damage and instant full hp.
Now, I don't think that she works in every team - She has no CC after all. Still, she seems to work wonderfully as an assassin and her cleanup is extremely good. Her teamfighting also doesn't seem all that bad as long as your team has enough damage to get the enemy team scared during your ult so that you don't come out 1v5 against 80% hp opponents.
I definitely will be playing Fiora a lot, she feels so much better than almost everything I've recently tried playing a lot. I'll also definitely try support + Fiora bottom lane if some solo queuers let me.
Note if she doesn't win her lane I feel like she's not that great but her laning is so incredibly powerful she definitely should win her lane... If she gets the second blue mid she can use it extremely well.
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fiora is like ultimate counter to jayce, u cant even farm under turret post level6 she just straight up dives you
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On April 26 2013 07:29 ticklishmusic wrote:
so the discussion about battlemage ezreal comes up now and then
why not battlemage urgot? not as mobile, but spamming spells on him can be pretty strong.
I still maintain that this idea of Lizard Elder + IBG makes more practical sense on Corki than on Ezreal, or even Urgot, given that:
1) Corki actually uses the regen stats and max mana. Ezreal hasn't the slightest need for that much mana/mana regen.
2) The build sacrifices itemized damage for Lizard Elder and IBG procs--Ezreal actually scales well off plain AD stats, so it's not really that great of an alternative--whereas Corki's overall itemized scaling has always been suspect due to his lack of high ratios or a steroid. He's more base damage-dependent.
3) Corki actually uses defensive stats better than Ezreal does because Corki has to fight consistently at that effective range of ~500-700. Ezreal's just using the IBG proc to become superfluously better at something he's already pretty much the best in the game at (kiting). Corki actually needs that area-of-effect damage/control that the IBG proc offers.
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Is box box ([] []) someone on TL? I checked the last couple pages and no one has talked about him but the dude has had like 15k viewers the last two days and I've never seen him stream before.
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Tomorrow is a big day in terms of tournaments. Big games in LPL, OGN, and playoff games in both EU and NA LCS.. How am I gonna watch it all!?!
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On April 26 2013 10:17 kongoline wrote:
fiora is like ultimate counter to jayce, u cant even farm under turret post level6 she just straight up dives you
Really? I am not quite convinced.
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On April 26 2013 11:02 Leeto wrote:
Tomorrow is a big day in terms of tournaments. Big games in LPL, OGN, and playoff games in both EU and NA LCS.. How am I gonna watch it all!?!
Either go to bed early, or do what I do. Copious amounts of caffine.
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Valhalla18444 Posts
So lets talk solo lane Lulu then! She seems to have good base values and shitty ratios. full mpen candidate? Item build? purpose in teamfights?
I'm really solid with her mechanically, so I wanna give it a run. I've only ever played her as a glass cannon mage, and theres a severe dropoff lategame. Holy fuck does she ever dominate mid tho.
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