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Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
April 11 2013 03:05 GMT
#341
On April 11 2013 11:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 10:51 Parnage wrote:
Wither is one of those abilities it seemed everyone knew was overpowered and it'd require change if Nasus started to see play on any level. Low and behold, he's seen play and wither is changed.

Not to be a grammar nazi or anything but I believe the phrase is "lo and behold" not "low and behold."

But yea I completely agree. Even when people were saying Nasus was in his own tier of shitiness everyone had to admit that Wither was by far the strongest slow in the game. The nerf is gonna hurt but half of 95% attack speed slow is 47.5%, which is still quite huge. Besides, there's no guarantee it'll go through the way it is seeing how it's only the PBE and not every change on the PBE has gone through in the past.


Honestly, the Kayle ult range nerf is neglible. 900 range is still silly long range and you'll still have 0 problem saving people with in during teamfights.


I don't mind grammar's never been something I was very good at and while I do try I am still working on it.

Kayle will also still be quite strong having a "this person isn't going to take damage" ability at almost any range is still going to be useful. I am honestly just glad that Kayle kinda caught on again with S3. Many people considered her remake horrid at the time and I was always a strong believer that her ult is a game changer and she'd come into her own eventually(with some buffs of course)
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red_
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8474 Posts
April 11 2013 03:13 GMT
#342
On April 11 2013 12:05 Parnage wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 11:39 Ryuu314 wrote:
On April 11 2013 10:51 Parnage wrote:
Wither is one of those abilities it seemed everyone knew was overpowered and it'd require change if Nasus started to see play on any level. Low and behold, he's seen play and wither is changed.

Not to be a grammar nazi or anything but I believe the phrase is "lo and behold" not "low and behold."

But yea I completely agree. Even when people were saying Nasus was in his own tier of shitiness everyone had to admit that Wither was by far the strongest slow in the game. The nerf is gonna hurt but half of 95% attack speed slow is 47.5%, which is still quite huge. Besides, there's no guarantee it'll go through the way it is seeing how it's only the PBE and not every change on the PBE has gone through in the past.


Honestly, the Kayle ult range nerf is neglible. 900 range is still silly long range and you'll still have 0 problem saving people with in during teamfights.


I don't mind grammar's never been something I was very good at and while I do try I am still working on it.

Kayle will also still be quite strong having a "this person isn't going to take damage" ability at almost any range is still going to be useful. I am honestly just glad that Kayle kinda caught on again with S3. Many people considered her remake horrid at the time and I was always a strong believer that her ult is a game changer and she'd come into her own eventually(with some buffs of course)


Her remake was horrid at the time. Various changes post remake have made it look godly/terrible at intervals though. It is still absolutely inferior to pre-rework(#2) Kayle though, don't let popularity fool you.
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Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 03:16:18
April 11 2013 03:15 GMT
#343
Her remake was horrid at the time. Various changes post remake have made it look godly/terrible at intervals though. It is still absolutely inferior to pre-rework(#2) Kayle though, don't let popularity fool you.


The one with the AP into AD ratio passive?
That was some fun shit, I wish i was lvl 30 at the time so I could have abused it better. Seriously though, that lategame was insane.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
April 11 2013 03:33 GMT
#344
Hahahahahaha Nasus got a nerf on his W on PBE
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 03:35:32
April 11 2013 03:34 GMT
#345
naut feels somewhat better now, though he's still terribly blue reliant. The new Ancient Golem build path helps him out i think, especially since mobi boots are so good on him so can now still reasonably get tenacity and some CDR. i'm not sure if i should be rushing Golem or Locket first. He definitely needs a source of mana regen though if you're donating blues.
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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
April 11 2013 03:48 GMT
#346
Omg finally (ss from reddit from PBE)

[image loading]
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
April 11 2013 03:49 GMT
#347
On April 11 2013 12:34 Infundibulum wrote:
naut feels somewhat better now, though he's still terribly blue reliant. The new Ancient Golem build path helps him out i think, especially since mobi boots are so good on him so can now still reasonably get tenacity and some CDR. i'm not sure if i should be rushing Golem or Locket first. He definitely needs a source of mana regen though if you're donating blues.


Yeah, I like Ancient golem on him now too. How have your early clears been? Hopefully the buffs made them safer.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 11 2013 03:56 GMT
#348
Anyone on NA just get a survey about Zac?
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Infundibulum
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States2552 Posts
April 11 2013 04:03 GMT
#349
On April 11 2013 12:49 Purge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 12:34 Infundibulum wrote:
naut feels somewhat better now, though he's still terribly blue reliant. The new Ancient Golem build path helps him out i think, especially since mobi boots are so good on him so can now still reasonably get tenacity and some CDR. i'm not sure if i should be rushing Golem or Locket first. He definitely needs a source of mana regen though if you're donating blues.


Yeah, I like Ancient golem on him now too. How have your early clears been? Hopefully the buffs made them safer.


Solo clear i hit level 4 at about 4 minutes, going W-E-W-Q, running AS reds/Armor yellow/MR blue/MS quint, and 9/12/9 masteries. With a team helping wolves/blue it's much better.

LoL NA: MothLite == Steam: p0nd
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 11 2013 04:10 GMT
#350
On Naut, 9 points in offense really don't add enough to make up for missing out on 21 defense
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
April 11 2013 04:21 GMT
#351
Is it possible for a game to never load?

I was in loading screen for 10 minutes - 4 people including myself fully loaded. 4 people hit 75% and stopped. 2 people never connected.

I figure maybe it crashed. I force quit the client and relogged and reconnected to in progress game. The loading screen just doesnt load. At all O.O
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
April 11 2013 04:23 GMT
#352
On April 11 2013 13:21 ZeromuS wrote:
Is it possible for a game to never load?

I was in loading screen for 10 minutes - 4 people including myself fully loaded. 4 people hit 75% and stopped. 2 people never connected.

I figure maybe it crashed. I force quit the client and relogged and reconnected to in progress game. The loading screen just doesnt load. At all O.O


Yea it happens, it means you disconnected from the game server. Whenever you're stuck at loading % for 30s or so check the ping numbers. If they're not changing then you disconnected and your team is probably playing 4v5
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ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 04:40:19
April 11 2013 04:35 GMT
#353
On April 11 2013 13:23 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 13:21 ZeromuS wrote:
Is it possible for a game to never load?

I was in loading screen for 10 minutes - 4 people including myself fully loaded. 4 people hit 75% and stopped. 2 people never connected.

I figure maybe it crashed. I force quit the client and relogged and reconnected to in progress game. The loading screen just doesnt load. At all O.O


Yea it happens, it means you disconnected from the game server. Whenever you're stuck at loading % for 30s or so check the ping numbers. If they're not changing then you disconnected and your team is probably playing 4v5


right. Well I was at 100%

Add on to this:

I see this upon reconnecting:

[image loading]
(upon two different relogs fyi)

Then this:

[image loading]

force closing the game client and keeping the adobe air client open.

I connected just now in time to have caitlin ult me at fountain and I die and get 9 reports for never connecting :D BRONZE 1 GG NO RE.

Probably going to be banned now for it even after apologizing profusely :/
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sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
April 11 2013 04:58 GMT
#354
I have NO FUCKING CLUE what zac is doing when he's blobbing around a teamfight.

I can pick out the jump, I know he has a mr. fantastic punch but i barely can see him use it. I guess he's using his W and ulti when he's blobbing around a fight, but I can't really tell what he's doing, when he's starting a move, when he's done with his ulti, or anything. It's hard to even tell if he's just using his jump or if he's jumping->ulting.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 05:32:20
April 11 2013 05:32 GMT
#355
On April 11 2013 12:48 beefhamburger wrote:
Omg finally (ss from reddit from PBE)

[image loading]

Zomg, I can finally stop spending 5 minutes at fountain scrolling around for item components I need. Riot pls. This and replays.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17274 Posts
April 11 2013 05:33 GMT
#356
You could also make custom recommended items for your champs. It's 100x better than the default crap.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
April 11 2013 05:44 GMT
#357
On April 11 2013 14:33 Craton wrote:
You could also make custom recommended items for your champs. It's 100x better than the default crap.

I know. But being me, I'd either be too lazy to make my own custom item pages, or anal retentive about making highly specified ones.

Biggest one for me is replays, because I don't use LoLReplay, and I sometimes want to relive my crowning moments of awesome (they make me feel pro even tho I'm not k? ;_; ). That and review and critique my own play sometimes.

Also, anyone play AP Ez for kicks? His laning is terrible given no waveclear at all, but it's fun as all hell with full CDR.

Muramana change to phys does hurt it though.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 05:56:02
April 11 2013 05:55 GMT
#358
i actually kind of like the muramana change

while i dont like how it makes khazix stronger (lol he didnt need that at all), the mixed damage makes it harder to itemize against a single champ. for example, if you were going to go a 3 magic + 2 ad comp (or even a 4 magic + 1 ad), the muramana would force the enemy team to not just stack MR-- be a little bit of a curveball when manamune evolves.

in theory anyways. though having a super lichbane was kinda nice too.
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Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
April 11 2013 06:27 GMT
#359
I think I'm gonna just not play this game for a week. Just get on, collect my FWotD and then peace out.
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 11 2013 08:14 GMT
#360
On April 11 2013 14:32 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 12:48 beefhamburger wrote:
Omg finally (ss from reddit from PBE)

[image loading]

Zomg, I can finally stop spending 5 minutes at fountain scrolling around for item components I need. Riot pls. This and replays.

I think he is also showing that you can't buy more than 5 potions of the same type. He has 5 hp pots in the inventory, so see how HP pots are blocked while MP pots are still available.
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