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Canada372 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:21 cLutZ wrote: It was dropping in popularity before it was nerfed. The nerf was just coup de gras. Does it still work (at least to some, limited degree?) though, even after nerfs? or is it just outright cost inefficient on him. | ||
NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:31 EmeraldSparks wrote: Wow, way to totally shit on that Wither. Nah Wither still fine, though it totally gimps Support Nasus. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:36 WaveofShadow wrote: Nah Wither still fine, though it totally gimps Support Nasus. Still slows a fuck ton and gimps the enemy ADC (instead of making them completely useless). Seems like a fair nerf to me. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:24 Purge wrote: Does it still work (at least to some, limited degree?) though, even after nerfs? or is it just outright cost inefficient on him. I don't know because I always disfavored IBG and Ezreal in general. I suspect it could still be a decent pickup for a poke comp facing a team of brawlers with suspect gapclosing ability like udyr, volibear, nasus, chogath, etc. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
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schmutttt
Australia3856 Posts
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I was never of that opinion. Her ult isn't an AoE and it's rare that it will block as much damage as an AoE will deal damage. | ||
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Canada372 Posts
Wither is one of those abilities it seemed everyone knew was overpowered and it'd require change if Nasus started to see play on any level. Low and behold, he's seen play and wither is changed. Wither was completely ludicrous before, it removed so much gold worth of stats, and could invalidate a carry by itself. Happy to see this nerf, although I still wish there was a way to counter attspeed slows to some degree (instead of resigning yourself to being crippled). I get why there isnt, but its annoying all the same . I was never of that opinion. Her ult isn't an AoE and it's rare that it will block as much damage as an AoE will deal damage. Isnt it an instantcast spell that completely sways ganks or teamfights though? Id understand if Riot didnt want people abusing it too hard from offscreen. Thats what Shen is for, and his ult is balanced around it. | ||
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LateralusGaming
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On April 11 2013 10:51 Parnage wrote: Wither is one of those abilities it seemed everyone knew was overpowered and it'd require change if Nasus started to see play on any level. Low and behold, he's seen play and wither is changed. I think we'll still see Nasus in the pro scene though. | ||
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Vanka
China1336 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:58 obesechicken13 wrote: I was never of that opinion. Her ult isn't an AoE and it's rare that it will block as much damage as an AoE will deal damage. Zilean's ult is 700 range, for comparison. | ||
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Zilean's ult is 700 range, for comparison. Which is funny, because if you think about it, Kayle right now is just a better version of zilean (albeit with a weaker utl). Like for all intents and purposes she does his job to a lesser extreme- which means that she gets to be able to deal damage on top of it. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
Not surprised at Wither change; ah well, fun while it lasted. | ||
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obesechicken13
United States10467 Posts
I don't think this matters. At all. Why can't one ult have higher range than another? | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On April 11 2013 10:51 Parnage wrote: Wither is one of those abilities it seemed everyone knew was overpowered and it'd require change if Nasus started to see play on any level. Low and behold, he's seen play and wither is changed. Not to be a grammar nazi or anything but I believe the phrase is "lo and behold" not "low and behold." But yea I completely agree. Even when people were saying Nasus was in his own tier of shitiness everyone had to admit that Wither was by far the strongest slow in the game. The nerf is gonna hurt but half of 95% attack speed slow is 47.5%, which is still quite huge. Besides, there's no guarantee it'll go through the way it is seeing how it's only the PBE and not every change on the PBE has gone through in the past. Honestly, the Kayle ult range nerf is neglible. 900 range is still silly long range and you'll still have 0 problem saving people with in during teamfights. | ||
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Canada372 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:39 Ryuu314 wrote: Not to be a grammar nazi or anything but I believe the phrase is "lo and behold" not "low and behold." But yea I completely agree. Even when people were saying Nasus was in his own tier of shitiness everyone had to admit that Wither was by far the strongest slow in the game. The nerf is gonna hurt but half of 95% attack speed slow is 47.5%, which is still quite huge. Besides, there's no guarantee it'll go through the way it is seeing how it's only the PBE and not every change on the PBE has gone through in the past. Honestly, the Kayle ult range nerf is neglible. 900 range is still silly long range and you'll still have 0 problem saving people with in during teamfights. Im not sure its negligible, (I wouldnt be surprised if it had decided games before), I think its completely warranted and fair, given that she still offers so bloody much to a team. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On April 11 2013 11:35 obesechicken13 wrote: I don't think this matters. At all. Why can't one ult have higher range than another? I think his point was that both ults serve a similar purpose in saving your teammates. Personally I don't mind the range change. It was pretty long for such a game changing ult. But you're entitled to your opinion as well. | ||
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