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JonGalt
Profile Joined February 2013
Pootie too good!4331 Posts
April 10 2013 22:20 GMT
#281
On April 10 2013 09:23 WaveofShadow wrote:
I posted this in our thread, but thanks so much TL!
Soniv and I won our contest!!


Congrats!!

On April 10 2013 13:54 Lmui wrote:
I really wish riot would change the font, just a little. !'s look like I's look like l's.

Example:

http://i.imgur.com/esVNu1v.jpg

+ Show Spoiler +
Oh and I hit plat I and got scared that i was promoted to the same division as I was in previously





I don't. Otherwise my LoL username will distinctly read as JonGait and not JonGaIt. Damn someone for stealing JonGalt and never playing again. I checked your lolking summoner you jerk!

As I read I realize I love the word procs. I just love hearing it, saying it, reading it. Procs procs procs.

Also cool to find out everyone's GD thread reading habits.

And idra has the same pokemon moba idea as TL? That's too cool. Get him to drop his sc2 career and he can pioneer the way into the MOBA of the future!

Do people build lich bane on Syndra? Someone mentioned earlier (whoever was testing Syndra support - kainzero?) that she can kite really well and I remember her auto attack animation being awesome. I loved that item on almost every AP I played. It was like having an extra nuke on a really short cooldown.
LiquidLegends StaffWho is Jon Galt?
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 22:27:30
April 10 2013 22:26 GMT
#282
On April 11 2013 07:15 TheYango wrote:
The same is true for Triforce and that was never an issue--both are equally good Triforce users. And compared to Triforce, Corki uses what IBG gives better than Ezreal does. He has a greater need for the extra mana, and Corki actually likes having the AoE teamfight control slow for his AoE spells, while Ezreal is just using the proc to do what he already does well better (which is often superfluous).

ezreal Q proc slows from 1k range corki needs to use skill and use auto attack from 550 range he also has shitty mobility compared to ez its obviously inferior for kitting
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
April 10 2013 22:28 GMT
#283
He's not going to use it for kiting, he's going to use it for doing damage at that range because that 500-700 range is his effective damage range with Gatling and Phospho Bomb.
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Keniji
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Netherlands2569 Posts
April 10 2013 22:31 GMT
#284
On April 11 2013 07:03 obesechicken13 wrote:
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1c2fqs/forced_to_miss_the_lcs_for_school_church_zombie/
Remember the recommended vods threads and the recommended vods from tournaments threads we used for BW?

I saw the one on SC2 but stopped using it because very few of the games were fun to watch.

Well some guy is saying that they should make a duplicate for that with LoL. EXCEPT he didn't say that we, TL, have exclusive rights to make that thread. So... you think we can do it before someone else does? Set up a vods thread and then have people post links to tournaments after they're over that they think are recommendable?

I mean we already do it in the LR threads but I don't think those are easily combable.

edit: Oh nvm, we already dodo this: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=406110
Someone needs to make this more well known. I volunteer to Reap that karma help TL when I get home!


we don't do this?! at least not in the way we did with bw (and sc2?)

recommended game polls in the tournament thread are a different thing to the recommended vod thread where people post links about all tournament vods they think are worth watching.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 10 2013 22:40 GMT
#285
On April 11 2013 07:28 TheYango wrote:
He's not going to use it for kiting, he's going to use it for doing damage at that range because that 500-700 range is his effective damage range with Gatling and Phospho Bomb.

i disagree, only reason it was effective on ez is because it let him kite opponents very hard (armor during laning phase was pretty good too) but paying 3.2k gold for 125% ad every 2sec is garbage investment
and corki cant even abuse this item in half the way ezreal could
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
April 10 2013 22:50 GMT
#286
the reason I brought this up was because I was thinking about what 3v1 combo would be best for diving and I thought that Corki had by far the best combination of damage, burst, clear and an escape to boot out of all ADCs yet he is never used for that situation. On top of that he is still a good 2v2 laning ADC. All of the issues people bring up are to me, non-factors. That plus I've seen recently a couple of people playing Corki and carrying still.
De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
April 10 2013 22:54 GMT
#287
ur right guys yanger is a troll. just like when he says to buy warmogs on ad. #1 troll poster.
GANDHISAUCE
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19573 Posts
April 10 2013 22:57 GMT
#288
On April 11 2013 07:28 TheYango wrote:
He's not going to use it for kiting, he's going to use it for doing damage at that range because that 500-700 range is his effective damage range with Gatling and Phospho Bomb.


Then you misunderstand the Triforce and IBG strategies.

#1. IBG rush has been mostly debunked on Ezreal because you do rubbish damage. Right now its probably only used as your "defensive item" in place of GA/Warmogs/Randuins after you get a BT(IE)/LW/SS(PD) core.
#2. When it was used it was for the large AOE poke slow that helped you kite, but more importantly it let your team set up engages OR disengage. Basically with IBG Ez you can control when a fight happens. IBG Corki can't do that, because he is in snare/gapcloser range by the time he can proc.
#3. The old reason for going TF first was that it presented Similar 1 and 2 item damage to traditional BT(IE)+PD with vastly superior utility, survivability, and buildup so you could ostensibly win midgame teamfights (and buy fewer Dorans Blades).
Freeeeeeedom
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
April 10 2013 23:03 GMT
#289
On April 11 2013 07:54 De4ngus wrote:
ur right guys yanger is a troll. just like when he says to buy warmogs on ad. #1 troll poster.

yes u indeed need to be a genius to predict that warmog will replace over-nerfed GA, rekkles built warmog over GA in s2 its simple logic and cost effectiveness of the item u dont need to be rocket scientist to figure this stuff out
LateralusGaming
Profile Joined March 2013
119 Posts
April 10 2013 23:05 GMT
#290
So besides Corki, anyone else kind of pleased that they nerfed the range on Kayle's abilities?
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 10 2013 23:06 GMT
#291
Does anyone know where Crumbz has been? I've seen Dig scrimming with Lambo very frequently and he hasn't played a game on his account in a while. Is he okay?
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 23:07:43
April 10 2013 23:07 GMT
#292
On April 11 2013 07:50 zulu_nation8 wrote:
the reason I brought this up was because I was thinking about what 3v1 combo would be best for diving and I thought that Corki had by far the best combination of damage, burst, clear and an escape to boot out of all ADCs yet he is never used for that situation. On top of that he is still a good 2v2 laning ADC. All of the issues people bring up are to me, non-factors. That plus I've seen recently a couple of people playing Corki and carrying still.


Pretty sure noone thinks corki is unusable.There simply are more useful champs as a whole.Good players make not so good champs look amazing all the time .
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-10 23:19:48
April 10 2013 23:17 GMT
#293
On April 11 2013 07:57 cLutZ wrote:
#1. IBG rush has been mostly debunked on Ezreal because you do rubbish damage. Right now its probably only used as your "defensive item" in place of GA/Warmogs/Randuins after you get a BT(IE)/LW/SS(PD) core.

Ezreal and Corki are fundamentally different in that Ezreal does poor damage without getting a damage item, and has an AS steroid and decent ratios. Corki has high baseline damage but poor scaling. IBG is more compelling in this regard because CDR + Sheen proc are more compelling compared to raw damage when the champ's kit is so much more skewed toward high base damages than toward AD ratios and steroids compared to other ADs.

You can't run him as a 1st position carry this way, but even as a 2nd position champ, he still retains fundamental usefulness in supporting a higher position carry because of how strong of a teamfighter he is midgame off his ability base damage and how strong a skill Gatling Gun is.
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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 10 2013 23:20 GMT
#294
On April 11 2013 08:06 HazMat wrote:
Does anyone know where Crumbz has been? I've seen Dig scrimming with Lambo very frequently and he hasn't played a game on his account in a while. Is he okay?


Why don't you ask your bff qtpie? :O
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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
April 10 2013 23:41 GMT
#295
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36577354#post36577354

"we’re going to be implementing map-specific balance changes for individual champions."

Whew.
"Do a barrel roll"
LaNague
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Germany9118 Posts
April 10 2013 23:58 GMT
#296
On April 11 2013 08:41 Phunkapotamus wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36577354#post36577354

"we’re going to be implementing map-specific balance changes for individual champions."

Whew.


does that mean aram champs will be different from SR champs? TT
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
April 11 2013 00:05 GMT
#297
I like these nerfs/buffs
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35128 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-11 00:10:47
April 11 2013 00:09 GMT
#298
On April 11 2013 08:41 Phunkapotamus wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36577354#post36577354

"we’re going to be implementing map-specific balance changes for individual champions."

Whew.

There goes Cait and Tristana taking potshots behind baron pit.

EDIT: Reading helps ><
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
April 11 2013 00:10 GMT
#299
On April 11 2013 08:58 LaNague wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 11 2013 08:41 Phunkapotamus wrote:
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=36577354#post36577354

"we’re going to be implementing map-specific balance changes for individual champions."

Whew.

does that mean aram champs will be different from SR champs? TT


As long as it prevents nidalee spears from getting nerfed on SR because of ARAM I'm ok with this.
"Do a barrel roll"
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
April 11 2013 00:11 GMT
#300
is it better to use eq or qe for cait net combo ?
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