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onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:04:38
April 03 2013 02:04 GMT
#701
With all the time and money Riot has sunk into making LoL as popular as it is I don't see them just abandoning it. I think they are in it for the long haul and even if they release a new game I expect them to keep legacy support for a long time, still helping with tournaments and what not, just with smaller prizes probably. I think it would be slow enough that a 3rd party system could develop if Riot decided to back out, because it would be more of a slow ween kind of deal instead of just ripping the Band-aid off.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:06:31
April 03 2013 02:05 GMT
#702
Several people in this thread seem to be really misinformed in terms of what is truly on the PBE right now.

Trundle's Q doesn't slow. Reign of gaming, surrender at 20, and me spectating on the PBE all say so. As of right now it's identical between live and PBE scaling included.

Sejuani did not get a super massive rework overhaul that made her not Sejuani. Her W is extremely similar to what it was before: it still scales with health. She lost base damage since it went from base health to bonus health but other than that you're doing the same damage in the same AoE except in autoattack+4 seconds instead of 6. Her passive lost the 10% slow. Everything else has more or less been buffed for no particular reason but Sejuani plays pretty much the same as she did before. If you don't like her current graphics/voice actor Ironstylus heavily suggested they're coming out with a traditional Sejuani skin for that just like Trundle and Karma.

Now that we're past the bits of wtf misinformation I noticed in the thread over the past 5 pages or so I can pick up my hair from the floor and put it back in my head.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
April 03 2013 02:08 GMT
#703
Sej looks taller and therefore better. I won't say sexier. They're still pretty small characters.

I don't play her much but I'm not sure why. She's quite fun and AoE ults have always been strong. Hers doesn't require the commitment that Malphite, Galio, or Amumu's does.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
April 03 2013 02:08 GMT
#704
On April 03 2013 11:02 Dusty wrote:
I hate the new VU for Trundle. He's not the fun-lovable troll that gets severely underplayed, he's now just some icy meathead who got dressed up as a blue troll :/

EXACTLY!!!
The original trundle was someone who took on the disease for his entire tribe, this trundle sells out his entire species so that he doesn't die after doing something stupid, and then Riot labeled him "clever"
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 03 2013 02:09 GMT
#705
On April 03 2013 10:30 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 09:40 sob3k wrote:
On April 03 2013 09:25 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Wow, they just took trundle and shot him in the balls.

They realized that people liked the clever side of Trundle, that that was what made people love him. So in the new lore, they tried to make him clever. But he really isn't. His "cleverness" is selling out every single troll in Freljord just so he won't die. Also, to become a chieftain who now has no power because he's controlled by Lissandra. WTF Riot, putting the clever adjective 4-5 times in a story does not make something clever :/


That totally works, riot just taking after the most modern in game storytelling techniques from bliz

on a side note honestly who gives a flying fuck about lol lore....its so....unnecesary

Is that statement sarcasm?

As for champs like Trundle, Ziggs, Karma, etc. that don't get played a lot, I'd say that it's even more telling about what their appeal can be to look at what their players like, because then you have ideas of the aspects you can play on/develop to make the champs on a whole appealing to more people.
As in, Trundle isn't liked most probably because he's ugly, monster-like.......................


lol yes

also you forgot to link to moonbear

In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
April 03 2013 02:14 GMT
#706
On April 03 2013 11:08 GhandiEAGLE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:02 Dusty wrote:
I hate the new VU for Trundle. He's not the fun-lovable troll that gets severely underplayed, he's now just some icy meathead who got dressed up as a blue troll :/

EXACTLY!!!
The original trundle was someone who took on the disease for his entire tribe, this trundle sells out his entire species so that he doesn't die after doing something stupid, and then Riot labeled him "clever"


Trundle's trial to enter the league was also awesome and actually gave a motivation with a lot more depth than "I save the tribe cause I am good guy". Of the trials (man I don't even remember their proper names anymore) his probably surprised me and made me think the most.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 02:31:24
April 03 2013 02:24 GMT
#707
You should read his judgement, Ghandi. Basically it says "Trundle enters the League, learns that they already know that curse and have the only answer to it, which is to spread it back to his tribe: after such a long time the curse became tied to their immune system and having it removed weakened their bodies*. They offer Trundle to do it, and he fantasises about how his tribe will celebrate him and love him for saving them. Then he remembers all they promised him if he accepted to take the curse upon himself alone, and how they rejected him even harder afterwards (for looking like how they were before they got "cured"), so he rejects the League's proposal, and joins them saying he's pretty happy with the situation, grinning".
And it's worded in a way that makes it even better than his lore alone.

* picture removing the curse is giving them AIDS: they could as well start dying from the flu.

On April 03 2013 11:05 phyvo wrote:
Several people in this thread seem to be really misinformed in terms of what is truly on the PBE right now.

Trundle's Q doesn't slow. Reign of gaming, surrender at 20, and me spectating on the PBE all say so. As of right now it's identical between live and PBE scaling included.


If Riot tells me it slows, it slows.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
April 03 2013 02:25 GMT
#708
It's not even the Lore that I'm talking about, it's just his voiceover/model. Although, I just found out that classic trundle undoes the voice change + most of the bad parts of the VU so I guess I'm okay with it.
LateralusGaming
Profile Joined March 2013
119 Posts
April 03 2013 02:26 GMT
#709
On April 03 2013 10:32 WiseBagus wrote:
So after the Kayle Q nerf is more AD hybrid ( Rage Blade, Zephyr, Cleaver, IE, Defensive item) the best build for her now?


I wouldn't get IE on Kayle, and personally I think Zephyr is an average item. Instead of Zephyr you could get Blade of the Ruined King, it gives decent sustain + a strong passive and an even stronger active to keep you alive longer in a fight or an extra burst.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
April 03 2013 02:29 GMT
#710
On April 03 2013 11:24 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:05 phyvo wrote:
Several people in this thread seem to be really misinformed in terms of what is truly on the PBE right now.

Trundle's Q doesn't slow. Reign of gaming, surrender at 20, and me spectating on the PBE all say so. As of right now it's identical between live and PBE scaling included.


If Riot tells me it slows, it slows.


Yeah.

-.-
Haasts
Profile Joined October 2011
New Zealand4445 Posts
April 03 2013 02:35 GMT
#711
That hasn't been implemented on the PBE, yet, though I guess it fits w/the frost-themed rework. The Lil' Slugger skin looks quite off. I really enjoy the visual mechanic of Subjugate - as well as increasing in size like Cho'Gath/Zac/Whimsy, you shrink your opponent, which is fairly amusing. The increased AS buff on his W is p.hilarious for beating people upside the head, anyway.

I played a reasonable amount of Sej/Karma/Trundle/etc prior to reworks, but I don't feel as personally attached to their old lore etc, probably due to the fact I've never played LoL with sound enabled, /shrug.
PaniaoftheReef in Path of Exile TotA SSF SC // Lovelin fanclub // GreenTea #1
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:05:22
April 03 2013 02:57 GMT
#712
On April 03 2013 11:24 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 03 2013 11:05 phyvo wrote:
Several people in this thread seem to be really misinformed in terms of what is truly on the PBE right now.

Trundle's Q doesn't slow. Reign of gaming, surrender at 20, and me spectating on the PBE all say so. As of right now it's identical between live and PBE scaling included.


If Riot tells me it slows, it slows.


Riot's flavor text hasn't always been the most reliable source of information. The PBE represents the latest public stuff that Riot is tweaking/fixing for Live. There is nothing on the PBE forums relating to Q not slowing when it's supposed to even though several bugs concerning it are in Riot's list of known issues... so it's in the spotlight. As a result our best information is that Q will not slow and that flavor text from Morello is based on an earlier internal build and wasn't properly updated. That kind of mistake *has* happened occasionally (the reverse, wherein the PBE build would be changed to match the flavor text, has never happened and therefore far less likely, though not impossible).

edit:

In fact, if Q is supposed to slow the Trundle bugfix list on the PBE doesn't even make sense. Currently Q is removing AD from turrets. Why even mention that you will be fixing that interaction when the rework doesn't even have ad reduction?
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 03 2013 03:10 GMT
#713
Is the rework for sej and trundle live? can I still get the free original skin if I purchase now?
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
April 03 2013 03:11 GMT
#714
On April 03 2013 12:10 nosliw wrote:
Is the rework for sej and trundle live? can I still get the free original skin if I purchase now?

It's on PBE, if you get Trundle before it launches (likely next month), you get Traditional Trundle.
It's your boy Guzma!
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#715
Sej is live already then?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:13:32
April 03 2013 03:12 GMT
#716
It's on the PBE, not Live, you need a PBE account (with a whole different LoL client installation) to try the changes out and signups for that are only open a short time each month. So luckily for you it's not too late to get the free original skins if you buy them now or soon.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20255 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-04-03 03:29:17
April 03 2013 03:23 GMT
#717
I'm not sure I like reworking of how Sej plays but the visuals look nice outside I like how the older ult projectile looks. Even if its similar was it necessary to rework her skills? Couldn't they balance her by just adjusting her numbers?
Never Knows Best.
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
April 03 2013 03:31 GMT
#718
I love the way the Sejuani rework looks, but I hate the new lore. The old lore painted her as a gray character stuck between a rock and a hard place. The new lore paints her as LoL's Colonel Santiago (from Alpha Centauri). She's a generic hard-ass who will let her people starve because pride.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
April 03 2013 03:39 GMT
#719
Hate new Bristle. Stylus said there was discussion in turning him into a wolf, but he insisted he stayed a boar. Now we're stuck with a buff ass tiger with a pig face. -_-
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
April 03 2013 03:40 GMT
#720
Yea the new voice work for trundle is so bad, mostly becasue the old voicework was amazing.
Carrilord has arrived.
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