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On March 20 2013 05:41 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 05:14 MoonBear wrote:What if this is the lead up to an Iona vs Noxus hmmm? Speaking of that, is there anyone here who would trade CDR boots for that spellvamp Doran's item? Just curious.
For reference, the item was Doran's Scroll and gave 100 HP, 100 Mana, and 8% Spell Vamp (which would likely be unique at this point).
I honestly can't think of any point between then and now where I'd rather have that over any other opening, save as a joke in bot games.
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Lol 8% spell vamp. That shit would be a must buy on every mage.
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On March 20 2013 05:39 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 05:36 Slusher wrote:On March 20 2013 05:26 nafta wrote:Ez wasn't really overnerfed.He never was that strong.People just started playing tank comps recently  .When have people thought cait does dmg?She is just the safest ad in lane with a lot of pushing.IF she actually did dmg then she would be an easy champion but unless you go full dmg a lot of champs can just ignore you completely. even by your own definition of him "never being that strong" he was nerfed any nerf to a champion who "isn't that strong" is an overnerf no? I'm not sure what part of the game you are talking about but there is definatly a point where "can ignore completely" ceases to exist in regards to an ad carry. Before you get 4 damage items.The only BIG ez nerf was the w.Everything else didn't really matter much imo.Well obviously not ignore completely but unless you are 1 item ahead of their tanks/bruisers you really shouldn't do dmg for the entire mid game as cait.
we both agree Ezreal isn't even that good anymore means I'm right when I say that for clickrush to put him in his top 5 overrated list is just preposterous.
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Trade that 100 mana for something else and make it an even better Akali/Vladimir/Rumble starting item, because they clearly need to be stronger.
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On March 20 2013 05:47 Chrispy wrote:
Lol 8% spell vamp. That shit would be a must buy on every mage.
eh, the majority of max first spells on popular mids are now are AoE classification so it's really like 2.4% on shit(lvl1-5) damage, count me out.
people keep pointing to the cost nerf for the dissapearance of wota but I keep looking at cone/line shaped skillshots almost completely replacing click to win (not that I'm complaining but this really hurt the aoe aspect of spell vamp)
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MRN roster changes confirmed, ecco staying mid as long as his health improves, Nien to ADC, Heartbeat/Atomic N are going to compete to be starting support. I know that's not what everyone wanted to hear, sucks for Heartbeat. Nien is really good though so we'll have to see if this change has a positive affect in the end.
Another intestiner note.
Heartbeat requested to go support so he can make an impact on picks/bans. He also wants to continue making calls, and he feels he can do that as support
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On March 20 2013 01:35 kainzero wrote:
a-rod DDoSed the yankees?
man
this world is crazy
Hahahahahahaha. Probably funnier than it should have been but I had a good laugh.
On March 20 2013 03:53 Ketara wrote:
So, I'm trying out Quinn.
Amongst many thoughts, it feels so lame to me that killing Valor during Tag Team also kills Quinn. I think it would be mad cool if there was some mechanic that forced you to kill both of them. Once you kill one the other steps in.
I think it could be cool to have an "ice climber" sort of mechanic. Kill Quinn and Valor also dies. Kill Valor, and Quinn lives but loses all of Valor's abilities? I have not seen Quinn play or have I played her, so I am not sure if not having valor would make her unplayable.
Something to explore though. Maybe Valor can come back to life after a certain amount of time (akin to anivia's egg) OR if you return to fountain? That could be cool and it seems viable at first glance. If you were in a tight situation, you could stick around and be a weaker you without valor and wait it out for valor, but if you had the time, get back to base, grab valor, and get back to whatever. I'm sold hahaha.
This non-redditor thanks you  it was actually a really cool AMA.
Some tidbits I found interesting:
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"Nobody represents the Shadow Isles entirely" sounds so poetic to me haha.
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**Q *
[Fencinator]Absurd question, for the sake of
curiosity - Will Hurricane lower her Mantra cooldown based on how many enemies she hits?
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[riotscarizard]I...I am pretty sure this works. Mother of god.
I recommend it to anyone who didn't read it.
P.S. Who started support Zyra? I remember muffinqt started the support Morgana. I loved that morgana kat strategy they had. So cool. Mandatory Cloud is so good.
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On March 20 2013 05:26 nafta wrote:Ez wasn't really overnerfed.He never was that strong.People just started playing tank comps recently .When have people thought cait does dmg?She is just the safest ad in lane with a lot of pushing.IF she actually did dmg then she would be an easy champion but unless you go full dmg a lot of champs can just ignore you completely.
People thought Cait did damage because before Nunu was killed Cait Nunu was a safe lane that could push and bully.
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it was either Godlife or Edward, I know televised was OGN first, but Edward played it quite a bit at worlds which was not long after so he must have been practicing it.
looked it up on leaguepedia, Madlife did in fact play Zyra once in the semis and once in the finals at ogn summer. Then at worlds Edward and Madlife both played her.
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P.S. Who started support Zyra? I remember muffinqt started the support Morgana. I loved that morgana kat strategy they had. So cool. Mandatory Cloud is so good.
It was first seen in Korean play i believe, not sure who started it.
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On March 20 2013 05:41 phyvo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 05:14 MoonBear wrote:What if this is the lead up to an Iona vs Noxus hmmm? Speaking of that, is there anyone here who would trade CDR boots for that spellvamp Doran's item? Just curious.
Rio hates early spellvamp because spellvamp has proven to be very impactful in the past(double WOTA, ununique on Gunblade.)
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interestingly Lustboy didn't play her at either event despite training with Frost.
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On March 20 2013 05:26 nafta wrote:Ez wasn't really overnerfed.He never was that strong.People just started playing tank comps recently .When have people thought cait does dmg?She is just the safest ad in lane with a lot of pushing.IF she actually did dmg then she would be an easy champion but unless you go full dmg a lot of champs can just ignore you completely.
You probably have not seen early incarnations of AP-Ezreal.
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On March 20 2013 06:10 Gahlo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 20 2013 05:41 phyvo wrote:On March 20 2013 05:14 MoonBear wrote:What if this is the lead up to an Iona vs Noxus hmmm? Speaking of that, is there anyone here who would trade CDR boots for that spellvamp Doran's item? Just curious. Rio hates early spellvamp because spellvamp has proven to be very impactful in the past(double WOTA, ununique on Gunblade.)
The problem with double WotA/stackable Revolvers wasn't early Spell Vamp, it was stacking Spell Vamp. Unless you have extremely spammable, low cost abilities Spell Vamp isn't all that great early on.
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For this season at least, CDR is so much easier to itemize than spell vamp, so currently the hypothetical spell vamp doran item would probably be a more standout item
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On March 20 2013 06:21 Juicyfruit wrote:For this season at least, CDR is so much easier to itemize than spell vamp, so currently the hypothetical spell vamp doran item would probably be a more standout item
8% spellvamp would only be balanced compared to the 5 heal you get from Dolans blade during laning. Hue. 8% may be a bit too much for the mid to late game though. Healing 8% of 300 damage of a minion is 24 heal. Mages aren't supposed to heal that much. That's what makes them balanced.
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Presumably it wouldn't even *be* spellvamp anymore seeing as they changed DBlade to be flat heal on hit.
They'd probably change it to be flat heal on spell cast or something.
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akali still untouched wat
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On March 20 2013 06:32 TheYango wrote:
Presumably it wouldn't even *be* spellvamp anymore seeing as they changed DBlade to be flat heal on hit.
They'd probably change it to be flat heal on spell cast or something.
Heal on spell cast doesn't really work because that could flat out make it broken on karthus for example, while being almost worthless for somebody like anivia.
heal 6 HP every time you deal spell damage, with 1/3 effect for AoE/DoT also has abuse cases. Morg would become absolutely unstoppable though if you couldn't push fast enough though(passive spellvamp+up to 60 HP per soil), and malz too once his E gets to the point where it can finish minions off easily. Actually the biggest abuse case I can think of is Cass W. It's normally maxed last, and it lasts a really, really long time.
I honestly don't see a solution other than spell vamp, but then it'd be a scaling doran's item, which is also bad.
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