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[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 29

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Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 03 2013 09:25 GMT
#561
On March 03 2013 17:55 dae wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 17:05 arb wrote:
On March 03 2013 16:50 onlywonderboy wrote:
On March 03 2013 16:26 nosliw wrote:
Trynd new counter to Xerath. If Trynd E into a Xerath Q, he gains gold, cs, exp as if he killed minions!!

That's so silly, I can't even imagine what kind of coding bug would cause result ha.

that is actually kinda big. wonder how much gold and stuff you got for it tho?

Trundle doesnt get hp from killed particles.

Trundle passive got hp from dying units. Noc on release, his Q was coded as a bunch of units so when his Q faded, Trundle would get healed a ton.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 03 2013 09:29 GMT
#562
On March 03 2013 16:26 nosliw wrote:
Trynd new counter to Xerath. If Trynd E into a Xerath Q, he gains gold, cs, exp as if he killed minions!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDvrMt8mHAk

Hotfix incoming !
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 03 2013 09:36 GMT
#563
Thanks Blade of the Ruined King!

[image loading]

Silver 5 to Silver 2 in like two weeks, I smell a massive losing streak incoming in my future ;(
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 03 2013 09:48 GMT
#564
On March 03 2013 18:29 Lylat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 16:26 nosliw wrote:
Trynd new counter to Xerath. If Trynd E into a Xerath Q, he gains gold, cs, exp as if he killed minions!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SDvrMt8mHAk

Hotfix incoming !


No way. They'll just disable Xerath like they did to Viktor.
Liquipedia"Expert"
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 09:53:17
March 03 2013 09:52 GMT
#565
Did euw just fully crash ?

Nvm strange.
Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
March 03 2013 09:56 GMT
#566
On March 03 2013 18:52 RouaF wrote:
Did euw just fully crash ?

Nvm strange.

Yup, it's unavailable right now..
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
March 03 2013 10:15 GMT
#567
On a unrelated note, BotRK on J4 is pretty funny. Up to 15% health gone per target with one auto lol.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 03 2013 10:31 GMT
#568
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.
liftlift > tsm
RuskiPanda
Profile Joined December 2011
United States2906 Posts
March 03 2013 10:41 GMT
#569
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


You can't really rush BT in the jungle though.. if you sit on 1500 gold until your BF there's going to be a huge window where you're so much weaker than a similar jungler who's building up RoTK.
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 10:41:44
March 03 2013 10:41 GMT
#570
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


I've been using it on junglers. Ganks are much more scary. Also with champs like Nocturne, the attack speed is awesome to have. Also BF sword is stupid expensive.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Celestia
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico376 Posts
March 03 2013 10:41 GMT
#571
Im loving BotRK too much, is awesome against bruisers. Btw, I think everybody already read this, but if you havent this is a must:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/19g72u/math_on_new_botrk_spoiler_its_the_best_first_item/
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
March 03 2013 10:42 GMT
#572
try bruta+stinger+BoL on Quinn, super fun. Really good damage and super early 40% CDR with masteries which lets you bully the shit out of people in skirmishes. Plus it gets her ult up frequently so you can roam in birdform and dunk or counterdunk people.

From there build a Botrk, finish a zephyr and either a yommus if there's a lot of potential for assassinating squishies or black cleaver against tanky/bruiser teams.

Going bird mode, popping yommus and brok and sticking to an ezreal through arcane shift AND flash brought a tear to my eye... dat 700 movespeed...
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4121 Posts
March 03 2013 10:51 GMT
#573
I don't think you need math to realize how broken botrk is right now. It's just good on everybody, too good.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 03 2013 11:07 GMT
#574
On March 03 2013 19:41 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


I've been using it on junglers. Ganks are much more scary. Also with champs like Nocturne, the attack speed is awesome to have. Also BF sword is stupid expensive.

I was more hinting at ADC's going BotRK
liftlift > tsm
Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
March 03 2013 11:12 GMT
#575
On March 03 2013 20:07 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 19:41 Diamond wrote:
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


I've been using it on junglers. Ganks are much more scary. Also with champs like Nocturne, the attack speed is awesome to have. Also BF sword is stupid expensive.

I was more hinting at ADC's going BotRK


Pretty much every ADC should build this item first though. The only debatable one in my opinion would be Draven, and even then, he, like anyone that uses autos should build this. I don't even think it's debatable whether BT or BotRK is better on any other ADC.
Nom nom nom...
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-03 11:50:31
March 03 2013 11:45 GMT
#576
On March 03 2013 20:12 Kontossis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 20:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 03 2013 19:41 Diamond wrote:
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


I've been using it on junglers. Ganks are much more scary. Also with champs like Nocturne, the attack speed is awesome to have. Also BF sword is stupid expensive.

I was more hinting at ADC's going BotRK


Pretty much every ADC should build this item first though. The only debatable one in my opinion would be Draven, and even then, he, like anyone that uses autos should build this. I don't even think it's debatable whether BT or BotRK is better on any other ADC.

Graves; EZ; Corki; Cait, MF; and a few others probably optimize better with BT first. Also remember early midgame is the timing we're talking about; so power curve should be favoring BT over BotRK.

The only ADC's that would benefit from BotRK first is if they have no or poor AD scaling abilities; or their main source of damage is auto attacking (in mid game). So Kog, Trist, Vayne probably decent candidates for BotRK first build. I'd say it's more of a minority of ADC's that should go BotRK first though.
liftlift > tsm
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
March 03 2013 11:47 GMT
#577
fuckkkkk. Regi got me demoted :[ cuz he was smurfing. sad life
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 03 2013 11:48 GMT
#578
On March 03 2013 20:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
fuckkkkk. Regi got me demoted :[ cuz he was smurfing. sad life

it's okay. Just root for TSM to lose, as payback.
liftlift > tsm
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
March 03 2013 12:06 GMT
#579
On March 03 2013 20:48 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 20:47 Ryuu314 wrote:
fuckkkkk. Regi got me demoted :[ cuz he was smurfing. sad life

it's okay. Just root for TSM to lose, as payback.


Dont even need to do that anymore, its a given these days ...

Meanwhile, league of cleavers becomes league of ruined kings
KCCO!
Kontossis
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada256 Posts
March 03 2013 12:12 GMT
#580
On March 03 2013 20:45 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2013 20:12 Kontossis wrote:
On March 03 2013 20:07 wei2coolman wrote:
On March 03 2013 19:41 Diamond wrote:
On March 03 2013 19:31 wei2coolman wrote:
I think people building botrk forget that champs have AD scaling abilities, and rushing botrk ruins that; as opposed to BT.


I've been using it on junglers. Ganks are much more scary. Also with champs like Nocturne, the attack speed is awesome to have. Also BF sword is stupid expensive.

I was more hinting at ADC's going BotRK


Pretty much every ADC should build this item first though. The only debatable one in my opinion would be Draven, and even then, he, like anyone that uses autos should build this. I don't even think it's debatable whether BT or BotRK is better on any other ADC.

Graves; EZ; Corki; Cait, MF; and a few others probably optimize better with BT first. Also remember early midgame is the timing we're talking about; so power curve should be favoring BT over BotRK.

The only ADC's that would benefit from BotRK first is if they have no or poor AD scaling abilities; or their main source of damage is auto attacking (in mid game). So Kog, Trist, Vayne probably decent candidates for BotRK first build. I'd say it's more of a minority of ADC's that should go BotRK first though.


Early midgame is way in BotRK's favor. It only takes 1288 health for the active of BotRK to equal the damage of a melee range Q + R from Graves with a fully stacked BT and it heals you + steals speed + does a decent nuke. Ezreal's Q procs BotRK, only his R is benefited by attack damage... and only 70 from a fully stacked BT due to a 1.0 bonus AD scaling. I have no clue how Cait would be better with a BT... even before, Caitlyn would go IE into PD, with a vamp sceptor somewhere in between. Now, people are going BotRK into IE into PD which is a hugely effective build.

Not to be too offensive, but it seems like to me that everywhere else except teamliquid that people are complaining because this BotRK is too powerful. Here, it seems like a debate that BT is better in some situations, even though high level streams has 6+ BotRKs each game.
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