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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 16 2013 05:43 GMT
#3241
No, that was a scrapped up internal stuff, that was used with obviously overpowered numbers/effect just to try ("see if it looks good, then make it fit"), the red responsible for it cleared it in a thread talking about them after that PBE patch. They weren't intended to even figure in the files, it's just something they forgot to clean up.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Baffels
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1486 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 06:07:12
March 16 2013 05:44 GMT
#3242
*sigh* more Hecarim nerfs, gotta get him below 50% w/r on LoLking right?

Really really confused how increasing his W CD(again) is supposed to even out his early game..

Horn looks interesting, more support items are always nice.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 16 2013 05:46 GMT
#3243
On March 16 2013 14:40 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 14:25 Shikyo wrote:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Z.A.C.

Assuming these are accurate ZAC seems quite ideal for a semitanky max CDR build, perhaps with some flat mpen. Unstable Matter seems insanely good and this would pinpoint him into the role of anti-tank, precisely as most tanky champions currently stack health and armor.

I hope his passive is limited to 1 chunk per spellcast and I also hope that all his abilities cost more than 4% of his max hp most of the time. If he can heal by spamming max CDR W for example it could become really stupid really fast.

His tankyness also makes him totally anti-sustained damage. If he can burst squishies as well it could become dumb. Also doesn't seem to be lacking in CC.

Iceborn Gauntlet almost certainly core.




If his health costs are % current health he's like the ultimate towerdive bait troll. Barrier might actually work?


Spirit Visage could potentially be retarded.


From what I can see, his abilities do not cost health at all.

RoG just updated the patch preview. Zac's Q costs 6% of current health, W 4% of current health, E 12% of current health, R is free.

Since his passive heals for 4% of his maximum health, his W will net him health but it will net him more health the lower his current health is, and it won't be able to get him to full health. His R seems like it might give him pretty good healing though (does a healing blob fall out on each bounce, or just once?)

Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 05:52:40
March 16 2013 05:48 GMT
#3244
On March 16 2013 13:00 Alaric wrote:
Wait till your hear the voice acting (RoG's article is updated). Smoooth voice.

Also, new item:
Show nested quote +
Guardian's Horn: 1025 (Rejuvenation Bead+Ruby Crystal + 370)
+180 Health
+12 Health Regeneration
UNIQUE Passive: Enemy spellcasts charge your horn. Upon reaching 15 charges, you may use Battle Cry.
UNIQUE Active - Battle Cry: Gain 30% movement speed, 20 Armor, and 20 Magic Resistance for 3 seconds.


Not sure how good is the active. Short resistances burst so better against initiation it seems, but shouldn't you use the speed burst from afar? Interesting concept, but I'm not sure who would want to pick up such a slot-ineffective item though. It's "enemy spellcasts" so not the jungler.

For a moment, I thought this was for SR, and I was like O_o, were it not for the enemy spellcasts part it'd be OP. Then I realized it was only for ARAM.

Then I realized Riot made ARAM pretty. Zomg so prettttttttty.

Also, why is Zac so adorable. WHY.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2013 05:53 GMT
#3245
On March 16 2013 14:46 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 14:40 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 16 2013 14:25 Shikyo wrote:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Z.A.C.

Assuming these are accurate ZAC seems quite ideal for a semitanky max CDR build, perhaps with some flat mpen. Unstable Matter seems insanely good and this would pinpoint him into the role of anti-tank, precisely as most tanky champions currently stack health and armor.

I hope his passive is limited to 1 chunk per spellcast and I also hope that all his abilities cost more than 4% of his max hp most of the time. If he can heal by spamming max CDR W for example it could become really stupid really fast.

His tankyness also makes him totally anti-sustained damage. If he can burst squishies as well it could become dumb. Also doesn't seem to be lacking in CC.

Iceborn Gauntlet almost certainly core.




If his health costs are % current health he's like the ultimate towerdive bait troll. Barrier might actually work?


Spirit Visage could potentially be retarded.


From what I can see, his abilities do not cost health at all.

RoG just updated the patch preview. Zac's Q costs 6% of current health, W 4% of current health, E 12% of current health, R is free.

Since his passive heals for 4% of his maximum health, his W will net him health but it will net him more health the lower his current health is, and it won't be able to get him to full health. His R seems like it might give him pretty good healing though (does a healing blob fall out on each bounce, or just once?)


So he can just spam W all day and heal while doing it, although it's not that much... Spirit Visage/Iceborn Gauntlet seems like core.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 06:13:34
March 16 2013 06:07 GMT
#3246
Is that a brand buff I spy?

...it is! Well, at least in the current health stack meta (breaks even past 1250/1666.../2000 hp).

The prioritize different champions not hit though is interesting. The goal I suppose is to reduce the amount of burst to squishies and emphasize his %health nature of blaze.

...interesting, I like it.

Also means R-Q-E-W becomes his highest "theoretical" damage output in teamfights.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17243 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 06:13:27
March 16 2013 06:13 GMT
#3247
Goal is to remove the stupidity that is a triple bounce and to stabilize the best case/worst case disparity.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 06:15:47
March 16 2013 06:14 GMT
#3248
On March 16 2013 15:13 Craton wrote:
Goal is to remove the stupidity that is a triple bounce and to stabilize the best case/worst case disparity.

And I more or less agree with it.

Though technically triple bounces can still happen, it just won't happen randomly (catch a pair of champions close together and all). Also gets rid of the sheer amount of frustration applying the damn blazes to everyone in a chaotic teamfight before R-ing takes. R becomes the new opener.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Cheap0
Profile Joined July 2012
United States540 Posts
March 16 2013 06:56 GMT
#3249
Any champion with Grievous Wounds is going to give Zac a really hard time.
cabarkapa
Profile Joined November 2009
United States1011 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 06:59:22
March 16 2013 06:57 GMT
#3250
So I have a question about Varus' Blighted Quiver proc.

It benefits from AP, and lolwiki says the percentage proc will have .02 ratio, meaning 2% added max hp damage per stack of blight. At 180 AP, the ratio should make it be 3.6% max hp per stack, which in game labels it as 4%. So is it actually 4% or does the game just show it as 4% for simplicity sake? I know some stat displays are like that, so just wondering if its consistent for this too.
Jaehoon - Master strategist
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6213 Posts
March 16 2013 07:00 GMT
#3251
On March 16 2013 15:57 cabarkapa wrote:
So I have a question about Varus' Blighted Quiver proc.

It benefits from AP, and lolwiki says the percentage proc will have .02 ratio, meaning 2% added max hp damage per stack of blight. At 180 AP, the ratio should make it be 3.6% max hp per stack, which in game labels it as 4%. So is it actually 4% or does the game just show it as 4% for simplicity sake? I know some stat displays are like that, so just wondering if its consistent for this too.


All numbers in game are stored as floats but displayed without the decimal points. It's 3.6xxx%, not 4.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 07:02:17
March 16 2013 07:01 GMT
#3252
Man on an unrelated note watching JD stream is so much fun, so reminiscent of his BW play and he's doing great, I love watching macro zerg played so smoothly. First SC stream i've watched in a long time, he's fun to watch just rolling kids sauron.

dat macro, hopefully his style actually works in a tourney environment
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
March 16 2013 07:10 GMT
#3253
What're some champs that reward good mechanics like Lee, Nid, Riven? Looking to expand my top/mid selection, tend to find those types most fun.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35130 Posts
March 16 2013 07:23 GMT
#3254
On March 16 2013 16:10 Mondeezy wrote:
What're some champs that reward good mechanics like Lee, Nid, Riven? Looking to expand my top/mid selection, tend to find those types most fun.

Syndra.
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 07:27:47
March 16 2013 07:24 GMT
#3255
On March 16 2013 16:10 Mondeezy wrote:
What're some champs that reward good mechanics like Lee, Nid, Riven? Looking to expand my top/mid selection, tend to find those types most fun.


Anivia
Cass
Fizz
LB
Orianna
Jayce
Lux
Syndra
Vayne
Ziggs
Janna
Elise
Irelia
Renekton
Zed
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
dooraven
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2820 Posts
March 16 2013 08:30 GMT
#3256
5 million + peak concurrents

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1aegef/so_uhhh_league_of_legends_has_a_daily_peak/

oO
Go go Alliance.
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
March 16 2013 08:58 GMT
#3257
That is a crazy amount of people, wow.
nyxnyxnyx
Profile Joined April 2010
Indonesia2978 Posts
March 16 2013 10:37 GMT
#3258
ok guys, wanna confirm something.

know how you can turn in last few moments of skarner's ult to get extra distance? does the same thing work for shen's ult? phrased differently, does shen's ult always make shen appear on the target's back?
cool beans
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 11:24:37
March 16 2013 11:23 GMT
#3259
I have not been following the scene that much lately, is Jungle Taric the new big thing?
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
Usagi
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Spain1647 Posts
March 16 2013 12:52 GMT
#3260
I had one of those short disconects that plagued EUW last weekend too? more people experiencing them? it's annoying when it happens in a fight mid game
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