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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 16 2013 03:32 GMT
#3201
what stat in this game would be most like magic find? % chance of gaining critical gold, maybe?
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 03:45:30
March 16 2013 03:36 GMT
#3202
nvm. I can't read.
(Zac's ult still has a stupidly high base damage allowing up to 400-600-800 + 1.5 AP in AoE.)
The mechanic seems strange though, according to what they wrote he actually bounces by himself and you have to control him to be where you want when he drops?

His W however... max it first, sup 6% of your max HP as magic damage every 4s as long as he sticks to you. Every 3s with some CDR. In AoE. And they were concerned about Vi's early power? x)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
March 16 2013 03:40 GMT
#3203
On March 16 2013 12:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
what stat in this game would be most like magic find? % chance of gaining critical gold, maybe?

gp10
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 03:41:47
March 16 2013 03:41 GMT
#3204
Now Im imagining LoL minions randomly dropping items when you kill them. Stack Magic find and kill baron to farm infinity edges.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 16 2013 03:43 GMT
#3205
You know that's already what Thresh does, he's just limited to more of the same bind on pick-up item.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 16 2013 03:44 GMT
#3206
On March 16 2013 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Karma has a (delayed) root.
If I got it right, Zac knocks enemies up as he lifts off, then only deals damage as he bounces (I guess it's more of a zoning tool as you bounce after the guy that tries to run from the fight to chase him away).


Yea that's about the same as LeBlanc's E... and we all know how bad LeBlanc's E is.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 03:52:56
March 16 2013 03:47 GMT
#3207
LB's squishier than Karma should be, though. And LB's E has a pretty long tethering time, so I'm waiting on the numbers.

Zac's passive makes Trundle so, so, so sad:
Each time Zac hits an enemy with an ability, he sheds a chunk of himself that can be reabsorbed to restore [4% of maximum Health] Health.

(Fwiw, as long as he spams W and gets to collect the chunk, he has around 1% health restore per second. Mundo weeps too.)
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 16 2013 03:53 GMT
#3208
Jesus christ I go out for dinner and Riot unveils fucking League of Legends 2 or some shit.

Also I have to find some time so I can grind out IP for Zac. That fucking guy looks badass.
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
March 16 2013 03:55 GMT
#3209
On March 16 2013 12:44 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Karma has a (delayed) root.
If I got it right, Zac knocks enemies up as he lifts off, then only deals damage as he bounces (I guess it's more of a zoning tool as you bounce after the guy that tries to run from the fight to chase him away).


Yea that's about the same as LeBlanc's E... and we all know how bad LeBlanc's E is.

Not sure if being sarcastic or if you actually think LeBlanc's E is bad.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 16 2013 03:57 GMT
#3210
On March 16 2013 12:55 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 12:44 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 16 2013 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Karma has a (delayed) root.
If I got it right, Zac knocks enemies up as he lifts off, then only deals damage as he bounces (I guess it's more of a zoning tool as you bounce after the guy that tries to run from the fight to chase him away).


Yea that's about the same as LeBlanc's E... and we all know how bad LeBlanc's E is.

Not sure if being sarcastic or if you actually think LeBlanc's E is bad.


LeBlanc's E is (imo) an example of a skill looking great on paper and sucks in practice.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ketchup
Profile Joined August 2010
14521 Posts
March 16 2013 03:58 GMT
#3211
So, I don't know if people have noticed about ARAM, but it looks like there's only one summoner spell if I'm looking at the screenshots properly. They always have double summoner spells, which to me implies only one summoner available.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#3212
I just read Zac's lore.
wtf nice blob...
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 04:02:04
March 16 2013 04:00 GMT
#3213
On March 16 2013 12:53 WaveofShadow wrote:
Jesus christ I go out for dinner and Riot unveils fucking League of Legends 2 or some shit.

Also I have to find some time so I can grind out IP for Zac. That fucking guy looks badass.

Wait till your hear the voice acting (RoG's article is updated). Smoooth voice.

Also, new item:
Guardian's Horn: 1025 (Rejuvenation Bead+Ruby Crystal + 370)
+180 Health
+12 Health Regeneration
UNIQUE Passive: Enemy spellcasts charge your horn. Upon reaching 15 charges, you may use Battle Cry.
UNIQUE Active - Battle Cry: Gain 30% movement speed, 20 Armor, and 20 Magic Resistance for 3 seconds.


Not sure how good is the active. Short resistances burst so better against initiation it seems, but shouldn't you use the speed burst from afar? Interesting concept, but I'm not sure who would want to pick up such a slot-ineffective item though. It's "enemy spellcasts" so not the jungler.

On March 16 2013 12:57 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 12:55 Craton wrote:
On March 16 2013 12:44 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 16 2013 12:05 Alaric wrote:
Karma has a (delayed) root.
If I got it right, Zac knocks enemies up as he lifts off, then only deals damage as he bounces (I guess it's more of a zoning tool as you bounce after the guy that tries to run from the fight to chase him away).


Yea that's about the same as LeBlanc's E... and we all know how bad LeBlanc's E is.

Not sure if being sarcastic or if you actually think LeBlanc's E is bad.


LeBlanc's E is (imo) an example of a skill looking great on paper and sucks in practice.

"Meh" for burst/offensive. But for escaping/juking/kiting/peeling? It's amazing, it's almost like a single-target Morgana ult.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 16 2013 04:06 GMT
#3214
Hmm, minor quip: I think the new item would be smoother to use if it gave incremental benefit by # of charges stored rather than only being usable at 15 charges (e.g. suppose you could use at 6 charges for 12% MS, 8 Armor, 8 MR).

Conceptually the item is a marriage between Magic Wand and Drums of Endurance from DotA, which is interesting.
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 04:11:47
March 16 2013 04:10 GMT
#3215
Isn't Magic Wand a personal healing item and Drums an AoE buff, though?
And I agree that the concept if interesting, but the short duration of the buff and the difficulty of "acquiring" it (as you said, need for full 15 charges) makes it pretty awkward for a full slot to me. On the other hand that's what the PBE is for.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
March 16 2013 04:11 GMT
#3216
Also going through these PBE patch notes....
Yeah, the Equalizer was fucking strong but holy shit did they gut it. Also no clue where the Brand ult nerf comes from.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
March 16 2013 04:18 GMT
#3217
The thing that immediately stands out is that the item isn't really all that cost-effective for combat stats. Going from Ruby->Horn costs 550 gold which only gives you regen and the active--no real direct stat benefit.
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UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 16 2013 04:23 GMT
#3218
the component costing and slot inefficiency indicate to me it's intended to be a support initiation item
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Juicyfruit
Profile Joined May 2008
Canada5484 Posts
March 16 2013 04:27 GMT
#3219
Youll probably get to use that active more than once in a teamfight if theres no cooldown though.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 16 2013 04:33 GMT
#3220
On March 16 2013 13:11 WaveofShadow wrote:
Also going through these PBE patch notes....
Yeah, the Equalizer was fucking strong but holy shit did they gut it. Also no clue where the Brand ult nerf comes from.

Yeah the Equalizer nerf seems insane. I mean it was generally accepted it was strong and probably needed looking into but shit, getting rid of ALL of the initial burst is crazy..
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