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Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
March 15 2013 23:12 GMT
#3161
Well, Dat Karma rework. Im so excited - Karma is the only support AP that I havent been able to make work yet.

I want big Soul Flare explosions.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 15 2013 23:33 GMT
#3162
I am going to play so much Support ZAC. Manaless tank which gets free health regen from his passive while having long range stun initiation, AoE % health damage, a skill shot slow and an AoE knockup.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 15 2013 23:36 GMT
#3163
Hmm: To buy Karma for free skin, or just save for ZAC
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-15 23:50:59
March 15 2013 23:43 GMT
#3164
On March 16 2013 08:36 cLutZ wrote:
Hmm: To buy Karma for free skin, or just save for ZAC

Karma is only 3150 IP, but they said she'd be on the PBE for a while so you probably have time to save up for both.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 15 2013 23:52 GMT
#3165
On March 16 2013 07:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Lol why does riot insist on %max health dmg on abilities... rofl

To counter the health stacking (that people are going to do on this champion)
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
March 16 2013 00:11 GMT
#3166
zac reminds me of majin boo :o
BW -> League -> CSGO
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
March 16 2013 00:20 GMT
#3167
Going to play Zac jungle, his passive looks great for sustain and surviving ganks, he has good mobility and good CC.
But oh my good his kit is so similar to Vi with what it gives.
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 00:23:40
March 16 2013 00:23 GMT
#3168
A email from my permabanned account email


Janoski (League of Legends Player Support)
Mar 14 23:59 (PDT)

Hello again,

Thank you again for taking the time to contact me with your thoughts. Your passion for League of Legends and participation are a big part of what makes our community so awesome.

Should you have questions or concerns, please let me know.

"If you hit a wall, hit it HARD"

Thanks,

Janoski
Riot Games Player Support Specialist

yes so not automated

also my bday is not march 16th its april 16th!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
March 16 2013 00:24 GMT
#3169
zac reminds me of twelve from 3s. man i hate twelve. i don't care if he's low-tier. i hate him.




with all the RNG talk yesterday how come no one ever brought up phage?
DaBears57
Profile Joined December 2009
United States300 Posts
March 16 2013 00:24 GMT
#3170
I feel like a noob for asking but I never when to buy dcap when I mid. I usually play ahri and diana so I tend to rush DFG or I rush abyss if they have double AP or if I'm getting owned. It depends on the game but many times I feel even I rush DFG, I tend to buy abyssal. At this point since my play style with ahri/diana is kinda divey (all-in?) I usually buy zhyonas next for the survivability. At this point I usually only now consider dcap as my fourth item. I am wondering if this significantly hurts my damage/burst potential when I mid? I know AP tends to have their power curve shift to mid game so I am not sure if I am delaying my dcap too long?

TLDR: When I mid I usually get DFG, Abyssal and zhonyas as my first 3 items since they seem safer / more reliable. How much damage/burst am I missing out on by not getting dcap sooner?
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 00:35:30
March 16 2013 00:26 GMT
#3171
Na, he's spell-reliant, Vi is auto-attacks reliant. He also has innate tankiness, which Vi lacks, and better ways to stick to people through his Q, E and especially ult.

His ult is an ammo-based AoE knock-up+slow, and depending on how it works possibly a dash (apparently he only knock-ups enemies when "taking off", if I get the wording right, though). He potentially has less dps than Vi (depending on cooldowns and viability to build CDR on him) but much more AoE damage + cc.
The guy has more cc than Maokai and Nautilus: AoE slow on Q, AoE stun on E, AoE knock-up->slow on ult. x)

Edit for above: Rabadon possibly beats DFG in a few edge cases for single target damage, but rabadon's better for every situation where you don't make use of the active (poke, AoE damage, dragged-out fights where your damage will exceed Doom's duration). If you get fed in the midgame with a champ like Ahri, you can easily build rabadon instead of zhonya because even though you dive, once you get out/run out of ult charges they'll be dead.

Edit² for below: maybe the servers are fucking up. Happened to me several times in those moments, I could even type but nothing would appear. It's not people not talking, it's the server failing to create the "chat room" or to display what's sent to it.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
March 16 2013 00:31 GMT
#3172
Launched a ranked game. Not a single line of pre-game chat :o

First time it happens to me I think. Not a SINGLE one.
The legend of Darien lives on
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
March 16 2013 00:40 GMT
#3173
On March 16 2013 09:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
Launched a ranked game. Not a single line of pre-game chat :o

First time it happens to me I think. Not a SINGLE one.



In before banned for not communicating with team.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
March 16 2013 01:00 GMT
#3174
Lisandra starting her slow reveal too.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
mr_tolkien
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
France8631 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 01:18:16
March 16 2013 01:18 GMT
#3175
On March 16 2013 09:40 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 16 2013 09:31 mr_tolkien wrote:
Launched a ranked game. Not a single line of pre-game chat :o

First time it happens to me I think. Not a SINGLE one.



In before banned for not communicating with team.

That was so funny. Not a single word in chat until 04:00.
Then.

«HOLY SHIT GUYS IT'S CLG VS CURSE END THIS QUICK»
The legend of Darien lives on
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 01:21:49
March 16 2013 01:19 GMT
#3176
On March 16 2013 01:16 Mondeezy wrote:
To the more experienced junglers on here...

What do you do when one lane asking for help is losing, and the other two are tied? I feel like an ass and usually get flamed if I ignore the lane getting stomped, and if I don't get another lane equally ahead I feel like I'm not doing my job. Specifically, when I'm counter jungling, I tend to get blamed for "ricing" despite having an advantage on their jungler.

When I play normals with my buddies it's not a problem and I can usually stomp due to lack of wards and map awareness (and the fact people don't ban Vi), but when I play ranked at like high gold/low plat I feel soooo lost and usually end up being a meat shield. Lee is prob my best jungle next to Vi, but I also feel that if I don't snowball or snowball a lane I get rolled. Halp?


If one of your lanes is losing hard, the best thing you can do is push the lane and take the turret. This frees up your laner to farm the jungle and push other lanes, but most importantly the enemy laner can't get farm and kills for free anymore.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
March 16 2013 01:34 GMT
#3177
On March 16 2013 05:24 Hyren wrote:
So i'm beginning to realize that all of the mids I'm good at will get me yelled at if I pick them in solo q (Brand, Viktor, Veigar) and I literally can only play Cho top. My jungle/support/adc pool looks pretty good..what are three or four mids and tops I should look to pick up?

if you let people freaking out in champ select get to you it's going to be a hard knock life playing league of legends.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
March 16 2013 01:37 GMT
#3178
Hmmm Zac seems sort of interesting. Totally makes me think of Perfect Cell... Just not as perfect.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
March 16 2013 01:53 GMT
#3179
Aaaaaaaaaaand ARAM queue and visual map overhaul.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-16 01:57:48
March 16 2013 01:57 GMT
#3180
when is azubu tv going to go ahead and die? it's obnoxious not having some of my favorite streamers ever stream in a way i care to access
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
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