[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 162

On March 16 2013 13:41 Simberto wrote:
I really need to stop buying champions which i see in pro games. They always get nerfed within a few weeks. I should probably just pick up some obscure champion that noone plays and learn him to the max, at least then you have some sort of consistency and don't have to deal with him changing the moment you understand how he works. At this point anything that can be seen in pro games is likely to be nerfed within a month unless it does absolutely horrible. To be honest, it is getting kind of annoying, and it leaves this feeling that the balancing team at riot really just looks at pro games and streams and nerfs whatever they see there without a second thought. Then they randomly buff something else until someone picks that up. A more stable enviroment would be really nice in my opinion.

On March 16 2013 13:42 onlywonderboy wrote:

Play Victor, no sign of nerfs in the near future.

On March 16 2013 13:44 Sufficiency wrote:


Wrong. Viktor remake has been mentioned for a while now, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets out in a couple of months. After the remake, the pros will pick him up, and he will be immediately nerfed Riot-style.

On March 16 2013 13:55 Requizen wrote:
Zac looks pretty sweet, the voice and effects are pretty solid too.



AND STILL NO DOMINION RANKED QUEUE.

On March 16 2013 13:33 onlywonderboy wrote:

Yeah the Equalizer nerf seems insane. I mean it was generally accepted it was strong and probably needed looking into but shit, getting rid of ALL of the initial burst is crazy..

On March 16 2013 13:44 Sufficiency wrote:


Wrong. Viktor remake has been mentioned for a while now, and I wouldn't be surprised if it gets out in a couple of months. After the remake, the pros will pick him up, and he will be immediately nerfed Riot-style.

On March 16 2013 13:53 onlywonderboy wrote:
Victor is still incredibly underplayed despite being pretty strong overall, if they nerf him (or sees series play in pro play) in the next month or two I'd be shocked (baring a rework).

On March 16 2013 13:41 Simberto wrote:
I really need to stop buying champions which i see in pro games. They always get nerfed within a few weeks. I should probably just pick up some obscure champion that noone plays and learn him to the max, at least then you have some sort of consistency and don't have to deal with him changing the moment you understand how he works. At this point anything that can be seen in pro games is likely to be nerfed within a month unless it does absolutely horrible. To be honest, it is getting kind of annoying, and it leaves this feeling that the balancing team at riot really just looks at pro games and streams and nerfs whatever they see there without a second thought. Then they randomly buff something else until someone picks that up. A more stable enviroment would be really nice in my opinion.

On March 16 2013 12:47 Alaric wrote:
LB's squishier than Karma should be, though. And LB's E has a pretty long tethering time, so I'm waiting on the numbers.

Zac's passive makes Trundle so, so, so sad:

(Fwiw, as long as he spams W and gets to collect the chunk, he has around 1% health restore per second. Mundo weeps too.)

On March 16 2013 14:05 Alaric wrote:

They never talked about a remake, don't go around spreading stuff like that. They've just been thinking about how to make his passive more "evolution"-like (and not being used for Augment: Death in 99% of games) from time to time since his release.


You scream "I wanna get an advantage in the early game and leverage it heavily into the midgame or I'm gonna have huge troubles" though. Viktor is bad at fighting ganks, and once the enemy frontline gets tanky enough to not die to your ult (not even shrug it, just not lose half their health to it) you're a burst mage in this non-inviting meta with worse falling-off issues than others in late game due to his passive.
(The popularity of aegis doesn't help, but now that pro teams stopped rushing it immediatly after Locket on their jungler unless fed, we start seeing it less, fine by me.)

Edit for below: when was the last time they nerfed Anivia? (Just checked, once for Maokai's patch, another one for Udyr's, rest is beta.) So yeah, if they deem her "fine because hard" like Anivia you're pretty set.

On March 16 2013 14:25 Shikyo wrote:
http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Z.A.C.

Assuming these are accurate ZAC seems quite ideal for a semitanky max CDR build, perhaps with some flat mpen. Unstable Matter seems insanely good and this would pinpoint him into the role of anti-tank, precisely as most tanky champions currently stack health and armor.

I hope his passive is limited to 1 chunk per spellcast and I also hope that all his abilities cost more than 4% of his max hp most of the time. If he can heal by spamming max CDR W for example it could become really stupid really fast.

His tankyness also makes him totally anti-sustained damage. If he can burst squishies as well it could become dumb. Also doesn't seem to be lacking in CC.

Iceborn Gauntlet almost certainly core.




If his health costs are % current health he's like the ultimate towerdive bait troll. Barrier might actually work?


Spirit Visage could potentially be retarded.

On March 16 2013 14:05 Alaric wrote:

They never talked about a remake, don't go around spreading stuff like that. They've just been thinking about how to make his passive more "evolution"-like (and not being used for Augment: Death in 99% of games) from time to time since his release.