EPT[Patch 3.03: Quinn] General Discussion - Page 121
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
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cLutZ
United States19573 Posts
On March 12 2013 12:07 SnK-Arcbound wrote: This akali pink ward thing reminds me of a game I played. The laner said he wanted a gank. I said it was pointless to gank akali because the laner didn't buy a pink. The laner said I should buy a pink to gank akali. No thanks, I think I'll not buy a pink and just gank a different lane, I'm not your body guard. The interesting question, I guess, would be is Akali 125G/3 mins weaker than other similar characters? Or put another way, what Kind of Buffs would Akali need if shroud only gave the temporary stat boosts? | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On March 12 2013 12:53 NeoIllusions wrote: A dig upset would be a huge, huge statement. I like dig's chances more than Curse's obv. Agreed, dig is trending up and Curse is trending down. Gonna be a rough week for Curse if Jacky isn't back from vacation x_x | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2013 12:53 NeoIllusions wrote: A dig upset would be a huge, huge statement. I like dig's chances more than Curse's obv. depends. I feel dig is better in planned matches, but if it's a lot of matches without prep. Curse is better. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
Heart dig, head Gambit. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On March 12 2013 12:59 NeoIllusions wrote: Heart dig, head Gambit. Edit: Just had an Akali against us (she somehow lost lane to an Udyr, while starting red pot + mass health pots), yeah, something needs to be done to that shroud, the size of the goddamn thing doesn't mean anything since the zone where she could potentially be during all that is like twice as big thanks to the delayed fade-in. :[ | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Vlanitak
Norway3045 Posts
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On March 12 2013 13:07 Alaric wrote: :[ Does neo really like gambit? | ||
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Mondeezy
United States1938 Posts
I always see plat/diamond players say team comp isnt that important until high plat. To me though, it seems like well thought out team comps could crush once it gets to teamfight phase, assuming people don't feed up a storm. However, in bronze and whatnot I see where stomping your lane is a much more valid argument. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On March 12 2013 13:41 zulu_nation8 wrote: I want NA teams to win as much as anyone else but I think we will again witness just how far behind NA is compared to other scenes when Gambit takes big dumps on everyone. I do think Dig has more of a chance than Crs though. GJ by Nyjacky to go on vacation a week before too. Yeah how dare jacky take a week vacation after helping curse to an outstanding run so far in the LCS..what a jerk. It's a show match for one so I don't expect people to take it this seriously but I can understand why you would if you really want to prove X region is better then Y region. Plenty of people will of course use these less then a handful of matches to decide such but honestly that's just people reaffirming biases as far as I am concerned. You'd have to be going in with some sort of bias to make such a broad statement with such a narrow sample. As for the actual matches, it's anyones game. Dig vs Gambit could go either way but Gambit's favored just because Dig hasn't done well recently and Gambit has even with it's recent IEM defeats. Curse vs Fnatic B I've no idea it honestly depends on how well they prepared for each other. | ||
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NeoIllusions
United States37500 Posts
I can differentiate it. I'm a fan of CLG through thick and thin. For EU, it's harder to say. I definitely have the most respect for Gambit. I think I liked CLG.eu, past tense. hue. On March 12 2013 13:51 Mondeezy wrote: I've been wondering lately - are team comps a more important factor for winning the game in soloQ than countering your lane? I always see plat/diamond players say team comp isnt that important until high plat. To me though, it seems like well thought out team comps could crush once it gets to teamfight phase, assuming people don't feed up a storm. However, in bronze and whatnot I see where stomping your lane is a much more valid argument. I think team comp (5v5 setting) > laning. I've had plenty of games where I stomp lane but still lose game because my impact in a full on brawl/team fight wasn't as strong as the enemy's. (e.g. Panth v Riven). I've also had a number of games where I'm even or slightly behind in lane but still roflstomp team fights with AoE (e.g. WuKong). @Parnage: it's Curse vs KT B (which is technically KT 'A' in reality, ahaha) | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
 And I think in terms of teamwork, raw skill and general flow/having a plan and sticking to it, Gambit is really ahead of Dignitas, especially the latter part. Dig's problem was discussed/pointed out a few days ago, with their "we just don't end the laning phase" because they aren't too comfortable with what comes after. I wouldn't call Dig "auto-pilot" like TSM has been for the longest time, though, but it seems they lack... assertiveness? In their play. I don't know if it stems from confidence, but as dominant as they can seem against teams they outclass, they look like they don't really have a plan to deal with teams closer to/better than them. That's a major flaw because even though if things go in their favor they're able to ride it (till they bring out the throwing arm), it can easily be abused by teams able to force their own pace onto Dig through pressure or simply superior early game mechanics. Basically, when other teams get ahead, they snowball or set a pace related to their game plan. Dignitas instead use their lead to deter the enemy team from grouping up/taking action, and impose a lack of pace/plan. I'd expect Dig to be at a loss if they were to get ahead of the top Korean teams, for example, while most likely being crushed by level 1 plays, swaps and map-wide pressure, before being swept away by the current set upon them. Gambit has more (and "stronger" as in more impactful wether they get them or not) respect bans than Dig, play more aggressive and would be better at punishing indecisiveness to set the game to their own pace. So it's on Dignitas to prepare something to deal with Gambit's style, because in a vacuum I'd give a lead to Gambit and a stronger ability to exploit said lead. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35130 Posts
On March 12 2013 12:46 onlywonderboy wrote: Pretty excited for MLG Dallas, a lot of cool things going on. I'm especially excited for the exhibition tournament they are doing, dig v Gambit and Curse v KT Rolster B, winners play each other. Probably end up being Gambit v KT B but I think that would be a pretty cool match-up to watch. First time a lot of Western viewers are going to get a taste of KT B, hopefully they have a good showing. Olleh! Since we were talking about Nami earlier, specifically about Tidecaller's Blessing being obvious enough, this is an updated effect put on the PBE today. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://media-titanium.cursecdn.com/attachments/46/611/634986559485510700.png) | ||
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Craton
United States17244 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On March 12 2013 14:05 Craton wrote: Hashin is probably the most ignored person at "high" Elo. Nothing he says is ever worth reading, let alone giving any attention. All I know is, I saw his complain about Voyboy's top Vayne being "op'd", but in reality after Voyboy got 2nd kills on him, he just kept feeding walking up to Voyboy's vayne thinknig he could take him on; and died like 4 more times, and kept saying "Cant' believe that broken champion got buffs". lol. | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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TigerKarl
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When i buy runaan's hurricane it does apply effects hit effects for every hit like if you only had your main attack, but does this also include hit effects that come from items like Frozen Mallet? And does it include the 5%current Health damage from Blade of the Ruined King? Because if it actually does do that, i can think of really weird builds on weird adc champions and it does in theory occur rather strong to me. | ||
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