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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 11 2013 02:14 GMT
#2201
theres also the flip side of leonas that keep going in even when their ad is not responding that is also annoying. Its not like leona relies on getting fed in lane to be useful, in fact she is one of the best teamfighting supports.

if its not there its not there, dont be useless just because you're frustrated.
I come in for the scraps
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
March 11 2013 02:18 GMT
#2202
What do you mean I'm 0/3?! We can still fight!
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 11 2013 02:24 GMT
#2203
Crs without nyjacky is so painful to watch. Nyjacky needs to hurry up with his fucking vacation.
liftlift > tsm
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
March 11 2013 02:24 GMT
#2204
On March 11 2013 11:10 Simberto wrote:
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On March 11 2013 10:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
I wouldn't Leona with an ADC I'm not familiar with. Leona, while aggressive, is a pretty much all-in aggro Support. If your ADC doesn't follow up when you Zenith in, that pretty much ruins your laning.


I've had the weirdest experiences as Leona. For example, i picked leona. Afterwards my ADC picked vayne. And then he told me to never engage in lane.

Holy shit this just happened to me in a game I just finished. he told me that I couldn't do shit because I was the support.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Goumindong
Profile Joined February 2013
United States3529 Posts
March 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#2205
On March 11 2013 11:10 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 10:28 NeoIllusions wrote:
I wouldn't Leona with an ADC I'm not familiar with. Leona, while aggressive, is a pretty much all-in aggro Support. If your ADC doesn't follow up when you Zenith in, that pretty much ruins your laning.


I've had the weirdest experiences as Leona. For example, i picked leona. Afterwards my ADC picked vayne. And then he told me to never engage in lane.


Once i had someone tell me to pick Leona because he was going to play Graves or Ezreal. Afterwards the enemy picks cait and he picks corki because he "needs an escape" and then proceeds to tell me to not engage in lane after i told him to push the lane so that we weren't shoved under our tower
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 11 2013 02:32 GMT
#2206
On March 11 2013 09:10 onlywonderboy wrote:
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On March 11 2013 08:51 MooMooMugi wrote:
What do you guys think of Diana jungle? Been playing her in normals clear time is on par with everyone else and ganks are great with a CC and double flash

It's pretty good. It reminds me of Shen Jungle though, where he's better served in lane where you can get more farm, but it's doable with Jungle farm.

Really? I find with Spectral Wraith and Nashor's Tooth that my farm is either tied or the highest in the game even when jungling. Albeit I do take lane tax from my ganks XD
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 02:40 GMT
#2207
I'm telling you guys if you like the allin potential of Leona, but you are worried that your AD might not commit, Nami is the pick for you.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
March 11 2013 02:53 GMT
#2208
What's with the sudden increase in GPs that just sit up top and farm all day?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
March 11 2013 03:01 GMT
#2209
On March 11 2013 11:40 Slusher wrote:
I'm telling you guys if you like the allin potential of Leona, but you are worried that your AD might not commit, Nami is the pick for you.


You mean like: I cast E on ADC, ADC does nothing and last hit? Yeah, that's totally not a problem with Nami lolololol
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 03:11 GMT
#2210
I'm just saying if they fail to get it, you can start maxing heal, it's not ideal but it's better than Leona in that situation and you don't have to eat a death to find out.
Carrilord has arrived.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 11 2013 03:19 GMT
#2211
On March 11 2013 11:53 Gahlo wrote:
What's with the sudden increase in GPs that just sit up top and farm all day?

Because GP loses a lot of matchups if he tries to fight 1v1? Farming and maxing oranges is safer and is what most of them prefer unless ur ChrispySC
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 11 2013 03:21 GMT
#2212
On March 11 2013 12:11 Slusher wrote:
I'm just saying if they fail to get it, you can start maxing heal, it's not ideal but it's better than Leona in that situation and you don't have to eat a death to find out.


Can't I play Janna and be sexier tho?
Freeeeeeedom
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 03:29:53
March 11 2013 03:23 GMT
#2213
On March 11 2013 12:01 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:40 Slusher wrote:
I'm telling you guys if you like the allin potential of Leona, but you are worried that your AD might not commit, Nami is the pick for you.


You mean like: I cast E on ADC, ADC does nothing and last hit? Yeah, that's totally not a problem with Nami lolololol

Cast E on yourself, auto + healbounce harass. It's like janna but with sustain.

Honestly, your AD carry needs to spend autos last hitting. E on them is only useful if it's in the middle of an all-in and they're trying to kite. E yourself, auto + W + auto + Q if they are trying to fight back (place it so they can only potentially dodge if they back off but not if they press forward - it's your disengage.) If you hit this Q, your AD carry will probably be getting a clue and get some autos off too.

It's not really like Leona at all though - it's WAY easier to engage and lockdown for Leona. Nami fights like Sona - harass and kite.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 03:24 GMT
#2214
if you got the 2.95 a min be my guest
Carrilord has arrived.
Anakko
Profile Joined August 2012
France1934 Posts
March 11 2013 03:26 GMT
#2215
Playing mundo is one of the most satisfying things in this game. Run everywhere tank everything kill everybody.
TrAce/Cpt Jack for president (or both)
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 03:35 GMT
#2216
On March 11 2013 12:23 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:01 Sufficiency wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:40 Slusher wrote:
I'm telling you guys if you like the allin potential of Leona, but you are worried that your AD might not commit, Nami is the pick for you.


You mean like: I cast E on ADC, ADC does nothing and last hit? Yeah, that's totally not a problem with Nami lolololol

Cast E on yourself, auto + healbounce harass. It's like janna but with sustain.

It's not really like Leona at all though - it's WAY easier to engage and lockdown for Leona. Nami fights like Sona - harass and kite.


I still think the misconception (opinion based comments incoming obviously) that she isn't a super aggressive support is why everyone thinks she sucks. Nami can force the other AD to eat unfavorable trades from the AD and has the tools for allin, the heal is a backup plan, and as a little something extra when the trade goes down.

as long as people continue to play her as a poor mans Sona people will consider her a poor mans sona.
Carrilord has arrived.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
March 11 2013 03:47 GMT
#2217
On March 11 2013 12:19 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 11:53 Gahlo wrote:
What's with the sudden increase in GPs that just sit up top and farm all day?

Because GP loses a lot of matchups if he tries to fight 1v1? Farming and maxing oranges is safer and is what most of them prefer unless ur ChrispySC

I meant as opposed to doing anything with the team before the 30 minute mark.
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 03:53:23
March 11 2013 03:52 GMT
#2218
Crs scrimming w/ shiptur mid, looking A LOT more competent than when Liquid112 was mid. lol.
On March 11 2013 12:47 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:19 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:53 Gahlo wrote:
What's with the sudden increase in GPs that just sit up top and farm all day?

Because GP loses a lot of matchups if he tries to fight 1v1? Farming and maxing oranges is safer and is what most of them prefer unless ur ChrispySC

I meant as opposed to doing anything with the team before the 30 minute mark.

cuz that's how you're suppose to play GP. splitpush all day, have your team force a 4v4, you ulti, now it's 4.5 vs 4 in teamfight. you guys win teamfight.
liftlift > tsm
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
March 11 2013 03:52 GMT
#2219
On March 11 2013 11:24 wei2coolman wrote:
Crs without nyjacky is so painful to watch. Nyjacky needs to hurry up with his fucking vacation.


lol they having shiphtur replace him for now, but PLOT TWIST theyre scrimming vs GGU lol
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35167 Posts
March 11 2013 04:00 GMT
#2220
On March 11 2013 12:52 wei2coolman wrote:
Crs scrimming w/ shiptur mid, looking A LOT more competent than when Liquid112 was mid. lol.
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 12:47 Gahlo wrote:
On March 11 2013 12:19 MooMooMugi wrote:
On March 11 2013 11:53 Gahlo wrote:
What's with the sudden increase in GPs that just sit up top and farm all day?

Because GP loses a lot of matchups if he tries to fight 1v1? Farming and maxing oranges is safer and is what most of them prefer unless ur ChrispySC

I meant as opposed to doing anything with the team before the 30 minute mark.

cuz that's how you're suppose to play GP. splitpush all day, have your team force a 4v4, you ulti, now it's 4.5 vs 4 in teamfight. you guys win teamfight.


This guys never actually pushed and ulted his own lane. Had no pressure anywhere ever. XD
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