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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 11 2013 04:05 GMT
#2221
Well, that was the most rage inducing game ever. Team just did not want to win, at all.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
March 11 2013 04:08 GMT
#2222
Quinn is bad. lol. That winrate.
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 04:12:07
March 11 2013 04:11 GMT
#2223
On March 11 2013 13:08 Kouda wrote:
Quinn is bad. lol. That winrate.

LoLking Soloqueue winrate does not make a champion bad. See: Syndra. Now see: Syndra played by Bjergsen or Link.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
March 11 2013 04:14 GMT
#2224
On March 11 2013 13:11 sylverfyre wrote:
LoLking Soloqueue winrate does not make a champion bad. See: Syndra. Now see: Syndra played by Bjergsen or Link.

To be fair, Riot gave her oodles of buffs in the interim, though you are correct.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Kouda
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States2205 Posts
March 11 2013 04:15 GMT
#2225
On March 11 2013 13:11 sylverfyre wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 13:08 Kouda wrote:
Quinn is bad. lol. That winrate.

LoLking Soloqueue winrate does not make a champion bad. See: Syndra. Now see: Syndra played by Bjergsen or Link.


Did you play release Syndra? She was outclassed by everyone in everyway.
Quinn is the same thing. Outclassed by everyone in everyway.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 04:24:43
March 11 2013 04:18 GMT
#2226
it still stands don't bring lolking winrates here and expect to be taken seriously.

first week Kha'zix had terrible stats also because people were maxing and evolving Q I've seen an equal number of bottom lane Quinns to solo lane Quinns this week, also we had Botrk for a portion of her first week, how can you honestly take these statistics to mean anything?
Carrilord has arrived.
kongoline
Profile Joined February 2012
6318 Posts
March 11 2013 04:29 GMT
#2227
olaf's winrate was never higher than 45% on lolking .....
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-03-11 04:35:02
March 11 2013 04:32 GMT
#2228
Even after a champion starts to be played more win rate is not some godlike factor. I remember a quote about how a proposed Vlad nerf was listed in patch notes but never made it through. All of a sudden Vlad's win rates and popularity dropped. The psychological effects of different champions and builds is always a huge deal.

Besides, theoretically all champions will naturally homogenize to a 50% win rate given an arbitrarily large number of games.

+ Show Spoiler [unrelated sad] +

I played a lot of Jayce this weekend. Felt like I wasted a lot of time and didn't get done what I'd wanted to get done outside the game.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
March 11 2013 04:36 GMT
#2229
If we go by lolking statistics then Miss Fortune is the best AD carry in the game. And Fiddlesticks is one of the best junglers in the game.

Not saying that either of those are bad champs. MF is really strong for example. But I can't imagine any pros agreeing that those two are as strong as lolking would seem to imply.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
March 11 2013 04:45 GMT
#2230
lets remember that these are solo q statistics, so winrates are perfectly fine for discussing solo q but not competitive play. miss fortune and fiddle for example are both incredibly strong in solo q so it makes sense. Nobody ever tries to disrupt fiddles jungling and he has a really strong teamfight presence. MF is strong in lane and teamfight as well.
I come in for the scraps
Abenson
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada4122 Posts
March 11 2013 05:19 GMT
#2231
WAIT
WHAT IF THIS NEW AMORPHOUS BLOB CHAMP IS ACTUALLY AN APRIL FOOLS JOKE
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 05:20 GMT
#2232
I'd be sad I'm looking foreword to him
Carrilord has arrived.
Thereisnosaurus
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Australia1822 Posts
March 11 2013 05:22 GMT
#2233
Quinn is pretty strong. Rune her full arpen and you can do like 60% of someone's health with a harrier auto-blind-vault-auto combo at level 2. Later in the game you need to itemize her maxed CDR to really get the benefits of her ult and q/e. The main thing is not getting baited into using her ult to fight teamfights, it means you can splitpush fairly safely and then bird up to come in from the back and pop someone backing out then pin their team
Poisonous Sheep counter Hydras
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
March 11 2013 05:25 GMT
#2234
On March 11 2013 14:22 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Quinn is pretty strong. Rune her full arpen and you can do like 60% of someone's health with a harrier auto-blind-vault-auto combo at level 2. Later in the game you need to itemize her maxed CDR to really get the benefits of her ult and q/e. The main thing is not getting baited into using her ult to fight teamfights, it means you can splitpush fairly safely and then bird up to come in from the back and pop someone backing out then pin their team

How do you itemize ADC's for max CDR other than Black Cleaver and IBG? Just wondering
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Ethelis
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States2397 Posts
March 11 2013 05:30 GMT
#2235
On March 11 2013 14:25 MooMooMugi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2013 14:22 Thereisnosaurus wrote:
Quinn is pretty strong. Rune her full arpen and you can do like 60% of someone's health with a harrier auto-blind-vault-auto combo at level 2. Later in the game you need to itemize her maxed CDR to really get the benefits of her ult and q/e. The main thing is not getting baited into using her ult to fight teamfights, it means you can splitpush fairly safely and then bird up to come in from the back and pop someone backing out then pin their team

How do you itemize ADC's for max CDR other than Black Cleaver and IBG? Just wondering


cdr boots?

a stinger item? (ew)
Disabled gamer - Diamond 3 (LoL) D+ Rank scrublord on BW. Bisu doesnt need DTs, He uses probes. just ask Flash.
schmutttt
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Australia3856 Posts
March 11 2013 05:31 GMT
#2236
On March 11 2013 04:51 Parnage wrote:
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On March 11 2013 04:16 chroniX wrote:
Watching a few scrims of curse against a random team from voyboys pov with voicechat last night and then comparing it to the iem games of the korean teams (and maybe gambit) is just hilarious. one can only wonder how these guys can even attend the same tournaments and leagues.

it is just like comparing me and my boys playing a football game for fun to a game of bayern munich. we have no overall game plan or tactic. everyone plays his role to his best and we go with it,

i havent watched any other NA teams and only a few european teams playing the last months but if thats the status of the scene these guys have to get off their rockstar life and start working or lol will have the same situation as sc2.

in before "nyjacky wasnt playing" , "they were trying new stuff" , "it was just a scrim".... i know and i think i know how to weight those games but it was quite obvious what was going on.


I am going to go out on the limb and take the real risk of saying that Curse could take on those CJ lads. Can't wait to be proven most likely wrong but I am not going to go up and predict doom from Korean overlords due to IEM's results. Not yet anyway..


Gambit is the only non-Asian team that can beat them IMO. I want NA scene to do well but can't really judge results when they have only been playing each other for the last couple months.

I wouldn't take any scrims that are streamed seriously anyway fwiw, teams will never show their best comps on stream.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
March 11 2013 05:36 GMT
#2237
I really missed LCS not being on this weekend I was surprised.
Carrilord has arrived.
GettingIt
Profile Joined August 2011
1656 Posts
March 11 2013 05:37 GMT
#2238
Speaking of which, will there be LCS this coming weekend? Or is it off again because of MLG Dallas
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
March 11 2013 05:40 GMT
#2239
NA LCS and MLG Dallas both begin on Friday.
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
March 11 2013 05:51 GMT
#2240
lol; watching phreak and smash banter about stupid jokes. >.<
liftlift > tsm
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