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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 15 2013 03:37 GMT
#441
On February 15 2013 11:18 smOOthMayDie wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +


Meanwhile at Riot games..

And this is why Replays only now in alpha testing...
liftlift > tsm
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 15 2013 04:11 GMT
#442
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23181-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-2-14-quinn-is-here
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
February 15 2013 04:16 GMT
#443
On February 15 2013 13:11 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23181-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-2-14-quinn-is-here


Very different from the data-mined stuff. Don't know why I had hopes up, but sigh. Probably still cool though.
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
February 15 2013 04:20 GMT
#444
Ahh yes, we certainly DID need a 2nd Teemo.
Freeeeeeedom
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2013 04:21 GMT
#445
Vi... Buffs?

And they just made BOTRK even better for my proposed situation.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 04:30:49
February 15 2013 04:29 GMT
#446
On February 15 2013 13:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Vi... Buffs?

And they just made BOTRK even better for my proposed situation.

They're reverting the PBE nerf to her ult, and lowering her base attack damage. So it's a nerf.

Big difference between Quinn's Q and Teemo's Q / Corki's old Q is that Quinn's looks like it's a skillshot with travel time, allowing for counterplay at least.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2013 04:33 GMT
#447
On February 15 2013 13:29 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 13:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Vi... Buffs?

And they just made BOTRK even better for my proposed situation.

They're reverting the PBE nerf to her ult, and lowering her base attack damage. So it's a nerf.

Big difference between Quinn's Q and Teemo's Q / Corki's old Q is that Quinn's looks like it's a skillshot with travel time, allowing for counterplay at least.

Ah, hadnt followed the PBE too closely.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
February 15 2013 04:40 GMT
#448
Zed changes are odd. Nerf E buff Q, nice to see them at least looking at Zed I suppose.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 15 2013 04:47 GMT
#449
I'm very confused about the size Valor is supposed to be.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 15 2013 04:51 GMT
#450
On February 15 2013 13:47 Gahlo wrote:
I'm very confused about the size Valor is supposed to be.


Anivia-sized.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-15 04:58:15
February 15 2013 04:55 GMT
#451
Dunno why, but it doesn't feel like the voice fits the concept.

Felt the same about Nami too, tbh.

On February 15 2013 13:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
Vi... Buffs?

It's a PBE nerf revert.

People REALLY need to read when it says "Old PBE" for the red column and compare with Live.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 15 2013 04:59 GMT
#452
I'm not sure a 25 dmg nerf is going to affect Xin at all... looks more like a "look we're doing something!" nerf than a real one. They should adjust the 15% current HP to scale so he doesn't do wtfpwn damage the moment he hits 6, or maybe lower lvl 3 free resists so he doesn't get incredibly tanky off of HP items.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 15 2013 05:00 GMT
#453
Her quotes are pretty good imo, especially the jokes.
It's your boy Guzma!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 15 2013 05:00 GMT
#454
On February 15 2013 13:59 xes wrote:
I'm not sure a 25 dmg nerf is going to affect Xin at all... looks more like a "look we're doing something!" nerf than a real one. They should adjust the 15% current HP to scale so he doesn't do wtfpwn damage the moment he hits 6, or maybe lower lvl 3 free resists so he doesn't get incredibly tanky off of HP items.

It's a 50 damage nerf, not 25. The old PBE already had a 25 damage nerf.

Again, people just need to read these with the LoL Wiki on the side when it says "old PBE". Either that or someone needs to let RoG know that nobody actually cares about "old PBE" and only ever want comparisons with Live.

On February 15 2013 13:21 Two_DoWn wrote:
And they just made BOTRK even better for my proposed situation.

They straight-up made it a better single damage item. Not just for the situation we discussed, but also for the traditional usage of Bloodrazor as a lategame single damage item for many champs.
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Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 15 2013 05:02 GMT
#455


Vision, a blind, a gap... thingy all look really sweet.

BUT CHECK OUT THAT FUCKING ULT HOLY SHIT THAT'S SO COOL.
It's your boy Guzma!
IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 15 2013 05:02 GMT
#456
Lol, I drop down to silver 3 then get back up to the promotion matches in 3-4 games. zzz been dropped to division 3 twice yet I get back to promotion matches super fast.
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
February 15 2013 05:02 GMT
#457
On February 15 2013 13:11 Sufficiency wrote:
http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/23181-unofficial-pbe-changes-for-2-14-quinn-is-here


I was pretty tired talking about BotRK earlier today. But then Riot had to go do this. Holy shit.
"Do a barrel roll"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 15 2013 05:06 GMT
#458
Those item costs don't add up, lol. Cutlass lists its total cost as 1400 when the components cost 1675.

Assuming the recipe costs are accurate, Cutlass is 1800 and BotRK is 2975. Gives 800 more gold in stats, and is therefore breakeven cost-effectiveness without including either the passive or the active.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 15 2013 05:08 GMT
#459
On February 15 2013 14:06 TheYango wrote:
Those item costs don't add up, lol. Cutlass lists its total cost as 1400 when the components cost 1675.

Assuming the recipe costs are accurate, Cutlass is 1800 and BotRK is 2975. Gives 800 more gold in stats, and is therefore breakeven cost-effectiveness without including either the passive or the active.

Either they fucked up somewhere, or they REALLY want to break the BT rush for AD's and Mogs for Tops.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35174 Posts
February 15 2013 05:12 GMT
#460
On February 15 2013 14:06 TheYango wrote:
Those item costs don't add up, lol. Cutlass lists its total cost as 1400 when the components cost 1675.

Assuming the recipe costs are accurate, Cutlass is 1800 and BotRK is 2975. Gives 800 more gold in stats, and is therefore breakeven cost-effectiveness without including either the passive or the active.

I think one of the Daggers is a typo.
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