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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:16:50
February 14 2013 21:09 GMT
#321
On February 15 2013 04:42 BlueSpace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 04:32 Simberto wrote:
On February 14 2013 19:32 RagequitBM wrote:
On February 14 2013 19:26 Shikyo wrote:
On February 14 2013 18:48 Zizoz wrote:
Upside-down. Not backwards.


What does that change? It's still unun upside down.


Having huge amounts of difficulty carrying games with support in comparison to other roles. Maybe I'm just not good enough at support but I find it really difficult to figure out what to do if the AD carry just doesn't understand some things. I'm thinking that I should try to take more farm that he misses and then use that to buy more items, because nowadays supports with more items can make quite a significant difference due to how good support items are.

Also been playing some pokemon showdown, it's so much fun even though I find myself altering my team after like every battle because it feels like it just isn't possible to create a team that doesn't lose to anything in specific...



You're thinking inverted. If you flip it upside down like a table, it's nunu.


If you see the word "nunu" as if it is written on a 2d plane in a 3d enviroment, there are 3 axis around which you can turn it (actually there are infinite amounts, but there is really no need to go into this that deep and they can all be expressed as a combination of 3 orthogonal axis anyways). If you define them as the axis going from n to u as x, the axis that is the straight lines in the n's and u's as y, and the orthogonal to both of those which basically spears the paper that nunu is written on as z, and then turn by 180° around one of those axis, turning around x or y turns nunu to unun. Turning around z turns nunu to nunu.

I would say that turning around x or y is turning the word upside down, since it inverts on which side of the 2d plane you look, and i think defining one of the sides of the 2d plane you look at as "up" is the most intuitive. However, if you look at it from a different angle and define the positive y axis as "up", then turning it upside down does indeed turn it to "nunu". Basically, the problem here is that none of you bothered to define "up", and thus you are not talking about the same thing.

That is like the most complicated way to explain the difference between flipping something upside down by rotating it sideways or towards you.


It's actually a rigorous way of explaining it. It's simple for turning something upsidedown but when you work with different angles and such you need to define the 3 orthonormal axes as your basis and then you can make calculations
sort of like hitting a skillshot on a moving target requires complicated ("complicated") calculus to work out properly but its simple enough for most people because you only need to hit it roughly and you learn by iteration.

edit: the main problem is he's bring a 2-dimensional problem and adding a third dimension which isnt relevant in this case.
thus "piece of paper -->turn upside down"
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:23:32
February 14 2013 21:13 GMT
#322
On February 15 2013 04:55 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 04:39 OutlaW- wrote:
You're thinking about it wayy too much. Just write nunu on a piece of paper, turn the paper upside down (rotate it by 180 degrees) and it's still nunu


If i turn the paper upside down, i look at a white sheet. If i use a foil instead, what i see is unun. Which is what i was just explaining there. Basically, there are two directions you can call "up" in this situation, but since one of them is on the same plane and is thus not really elevated, is would say that defining the positive z axis as "up" makes more sense.

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Thus, if you turn the "up" side "down", you turn around either the x or the y axis, which both turns nunu into unun.


I guess you can think of it like that. But imagine you have a table shaped in the word nunu. And you placed your hands on the edge, and flipped it over so that it is upside down. You'd get nunu. As illustrated by my diagram.

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That's how I interpret "upside down"
Sure, you can flip it upside down from the third dimension, but looking at my screen, that word is 2D. So I flip it over in 2D.
Also the people that get "unun" are making each individual letter upside down, rather than the word as a whole.
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 14 2013 21:14 GMT
#323
On February 15 2013 06:07 SagaZ wrote:
I really hope they implement bw style replays, where you can create a "replay game" with other people, with only the creator having access to time/view controls. But with the replay watchers being able to chat and ping.

They say that won't be on release but they "plan for that in the future" which we all know is 3 years in riot time. They're worse at this than Blizzard.
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
February 14 2013 21:17 GMT
#324
On February 15 2013 06:14 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:07 SagaZ wrote:
I really hope they implement bw style replays, where you can create a "replay game" with other people, with only the creator having access to time/view controls. But with the replay watchers being able to chat and ping.

They say that won't be on release but they "plan for that in the future" which we all know is 3 years in riot time. They're worse at this than Blizzard.


Valve time > Riot time > Blizzard time.

Seems about right.
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ishboh
Profile Joined October 2010
United States954 Posts
February 14 2013 21:20 GMT
#325
so the changes to liandrys will work well with singed right? assuming i am reading this correctly.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 14 2013 21:20 GMT
#326
In any event, at least it will greatly increase the ability to run tourneys and such if you can cast from replays.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
iinsom
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia339 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:32:13
February 14 2013 21:26 GMT
#327
On February 15 2013 06:20 ishboh wrote:
so the changes to liandrys will work well with singed right? assuming i am reading this correctly.


It makes AOE spells a little bit stronger, since there is no penalty (unless im reading it incorrectly)
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
February 14 2013 21:27 GMT
#328
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet
BW -> League -> CSGO
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 14 2013 21:31 GMT
#329
that means you need to play him more

he's most an NA thing it seems
never see him on EU maybe like 1 in 20 + games
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:33:10
February 14 2013 21:33 GMT
#330
On February 15 2013 06:31 Slayer91 wrote:
that means you need to play him more

he's most an NA thing it seems
never see him on EU maybe like 1 in 20 + games

Ye he's permabanned at Diamond now. (on na)
www.youtube.com/user/ShakeDrizzle | League and SSBM content creator | Armada's Youtube Editor
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#331
His W constantly reapplies the Lizard buff stone thingy. So he deals WAY more damage than you expect.

Speaking of which, you could probably pull off the same thing with amumu W.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Purge
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada372 Posts
February 14 2013 21:36 GMT
#332
On February 15 2013 06:20 ishboh wrote:
so the changes to liandrys will work well with singed right? assuming i am reading this correctly.


>.>

Yes it will work with him, as much as it is going to suck and make him even more rediculous. And Anivia too.
"Never do an enemy a small injury." - Machiavelli
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:38:13
February 14 2013 21:37 GMT
#333
On February 15 2013 06:07 SagaZ wrote:
I really hope they implement bw style replays, where you can create a "replay game" with other people, with only the creator having access to time/view controls. But with the replay watchers being able to chat and ping.

bw never had these. Sc2 might have.

Also singed op, what with his stomping of pubs. League of health and gap closers OP... oh wait.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2013 21:38 GMT
#334
Replay OF LoL files.
'k.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
February 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#335
On February 15 2013 06:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:07 SagaZ wrote:
I really hope they implement bw style replays, where you can create a "replay game" with other people, with only the creator having access to time/view controls. But with the replay watchers being able to chat and ping.

bw never had these. Sc2 might have.

Yes it did? The only thing more fun than FFA Fastest was watching the replay together afterwards
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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
February 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#336
On February 15 2013 06:33 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:31 Slayer91 wrote:
that means you need to play him more

he's most an NA thing it seems
never see him on EU maybe like 1 in 20 + games

Ye he's permabanned at Diamond now. (on na)


and with good reason

fuck pony
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2013 21:39 GMT
#337
On February 15 2013 06:38 Alaric wrote:
Replay OF LoL files.
'k.

It's pretty catchy actually.
It's your boy Guzma!
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
February 14 2013 21:41 GMT
#338
Nice patch. Riot is getting this game into such a good spot.
ZeromuS
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada13389 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:42:27
February 14 2013 21:41 GMT
#339
I don't see an LCS stream on youtube. It works much better than the twitch one and I thought it was supposed to be on youtube as well? Am I wrong?

OOPS I just realised you now have a tourney section. Ill check there sorry :x
StrategyRTS forever | @ZeromuS_plays | www.twitch.tv/Zeromus_
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:43:30
February 14 2013 21:43 GMT
#340
On February 15 2013 06:27 wussleeQ wrote:
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet


He is a godly champion. Best initiator in the game, hands down. He makes Malphite look silly.
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