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[Patch 3.02: Fake Quinn] General Discussion - Page 18

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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14060 Posts
February 14 2013 21:44 GMT
#341
malphite is better with aoe comps but on non aoe comps hes the best.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 21:49:58
February 14 2013 21:48 GMT
#342
On February 15 2013 06:44 Sermokala wrote:
malphite is better with aoe comps but on non aoe comps hes the best.


Hec has crazy aoe too though. His ulti is just as absurd for team fight initiations plus he has amazing single target ganks as well. Both can be tanky as hell with the right build and I find Hec to be more efficient at jungling compared to Mal (though I realize malphite isn't technically a jungler specific champ).

Not to mention Hec is just amazingly fun to play.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 14 2013 21:51 GMT
#343
ap trynd is kind of dumb
Bronze player stuck in platinum
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
February 14 2013 22:01 GMT
#344
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?
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Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
February 14 2013 22:04 GMT
#345
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/23162-damage-analysis-blade-of-the-ruined-king

IMO, it works best if you're going back a bunch and can't find a good opportunity to bank 1550g. Get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, throwing in dorans to hold you over. If you get ahead and bank like 1400, stick it out for BF.
"Do a barrel roll"
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#346
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?

You wouldn't build Crit with a BotRK build, BT or LW would probably come next. If you're going for any build that integrates BotRK or Hurricane, you're going to prioritize straight AS and AD over Crit.

I'm still not sold on the effectiveness of this style (did it on Cait for a while, wasn't really impressed), but if better players are rocking it, I'm curious as well.
It's your boy Guzma!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 14 2013 22:05 GMT
#347
On February 15 2013 06:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:27 wussleeQ wrote:
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet


He is a godly champion. Best initiator in the game, hands down. He makes Malphite look silly.


amumu says hi
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
February 14 2013 22:06 GMT
#348
On February 15 2013 06:39 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:37 obesechicken13 wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:07 SagaZ wrote:
I really hope they implement bw style replays, where you can create a "replay game" with other people, with only the creator having access to time/view controls. But with the replay watchers being able to chat and ping.

bw never had these. Sc2 might have.

Yes it did? The only thing more fun than FFA Fastest was watching the replay together afterwards

It never had access to time/view controls or chat or ping. In BW I always watched replays alone.

I think you could speed up videos if that's what you mean by time controls, but not rewind.

Also fastest map replays would always bug for me :/
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
AnomalySC2
Profile Joined August 2012
United States2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 22:08:51
February 14 2013 22:06 GMT
#349
On February 15 2013 07:05 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:27 wussleeQ wrote:
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet


He is a godly champion. Best initiator in the game, hands down. He makes Malphite look silly.


amumu says hi


Well..ok true. But Amumu is perma banned on NA anyways lol.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2013 22:07 GMT
#350
On February 15 2013 07:05 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:27 wussleeQ wrote:
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet


He is a godly champion. Best initiator in the game, hands down. He makes Malphite look silly.


amumu says hi

Blitz as well, depending.
It's your boy Guzma!
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
February 14 2013 22:09 GMT
#351
I don't understand the honor stuff, it tells me I have a new ribbon after it already changed it when they tweaked their system. And it talks about a leader while the closest would be "teamwork" but it isn't that one.
What's that yellow ribbon? @_@
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 22:10:45
February 14 2013 22:09 GMT
#352
On February 15 2013 07:04 Phunkapotamus wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/23162-damage-analysis-blade-of-the-ruined-king

IMO, it works best if you're going back a bunch and can't find a good opportunity to bank 1550g. Get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, throwing in dorans to hold you over. If you get ahead and bank like 1400, stick it out for BF.


What if you're even. But you manage to bank 1550. Do you still get a BF? haha. I really like botrk, and would love to have a build that uses it.

I think it might be my elo, but sometimes we literally just sit in lane for that long.
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22009 Posts
February 14 2013 22:10 GMT
#353
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


Hardly a good player but i tend to go a PD, BT, LW with it.

Is there a good asp item that would be worth getting instead of PD without crit?
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 14 2013 22:11 GMT
#354
On February 15 2013 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


Hardly a good player but i tend to go a PD, BT, LW with it.

Is there a good asp item that would be worth getting instead of PD without crit?

Zephyr.
It's your boy Guzma!
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
February 14 2013 22:11 GMT
#355
On February 15 2013 07:05 Slayer91 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 06:43 AnomalySC2 wrote:
On February 15 2013 06:27 wussleeQ wrote:
has hecarim caught on yet this patch? haven't lost with him yet


He is a godly champion. Best initiator in the game, hands down. He makes Malphite look silly.


amumu says hi

Eh, having to hit a long range skillshot or flash ulting is a lot worse than simply E GHOST ULTI in.
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Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
February 14 2013 22:14 GMT
#356
e ghost ulti makes you run miles in front of your team though
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22009 Posts
February 14 2013 22:14 GMT
#357
On February 15 2013 07:11 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:10 Gorsameth wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


Hardly a good player but i tend to go a PD, BT, LW with it.

Is there a good asp item that would be worth getting instead of PD without crit?

Zephyr.


How did i miss that one lol, Thanks a lot yeah would go BotrK, Zephyr, BT, LW
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
February 14 2013 22:16 GMT
#358
How is flashing in worse than ghosting in
well I guess flash has longer cooldown, but still, it's not THAT much longer. And also like did people forget that Amumu's ultimate is instant? There is a massive difference between being instant and not. Imagine for a second Taric's stun without projectile. That's the difference between Amumu and Hec.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
February 14 2013 22:17 GMT
#359
Wow I can just imagine how slippery an adc could be with cutlass active + Zephyr.
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
Phunkapotamus
Profile Joined April 2010
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-14 22:21:38
February 14 2013 22:19 GMT
#360
On February 15 2013 07:09 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2013 07:04 Phunkapotamus wrote:
On February 15 2013 07:01 RagequitBM wrote:
I'm really interested in that cutlass build for adc. It feels so weak, but if its that popular it must be strong. What is their big item then? An IE?


http://www.reignofgaming.net/blogs/a-different-view/vvinrar/23162-damage-analysis-blade-of-the-ruined-king

IMO, it works best if you're going back a bunch and can't find a good opportunity to bank 1550g. Get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, get a kill, push lane, buy <=900g item, throwing in dorans to hold you over. If you get ahead and bank like 1400, stick it out for BF.


What if you're even. But you manage to bank 1550. Do you still get a BF? haha. I really like botrk, and would love to have a build that uses it.


If you're even, BF sword.

But, consider the enemy team and state of the game. If you see a bunch of Warmogs on the horizon go BotRK. I think the point is we have some lateral options that are close enough to the norm, and sometimes better. Rather BT/IE, PD/Statik Shiv depending on your adc, you have ways of purchasing to "get back into the game" quicker instead of saving for something big if you're behind.

Varus: Cutlass->Zeal->BotRK->Phantom Dancer + NuNu. R > W > E > Q is pro
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