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IMoperator
Profile Joined October 2011
4476 Posts
February 25 2013 01:00 GMT
#2581
Lee sin is so outclassed in the jungle now, it's really sad. Vi, Xin, J4 and Hec all do his job way better + arent useless lategame.
Nos-
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Canada12016 Posts
February 25 2013 01:04 GMT
#2582
On February 25 2013 09:50 Ecael wrote:
I like how 2 different builds just got listed as the same person's build.

That said what's 19/11/0, wasn't that pre s3.

Well WX has 3 mastery pages as far as I know, and 19/11/0 and 14/13/3 are definitely among them
Bronze player stuck in platinum
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 01:11:29
February 25 2013 01:08 GMT
#2583
On February 25 2013 09:50 Ecael wrote:
I like how 2 different builds just got listed as the same person's build.

That said what's 19/11/0, wasn't that pre s3.

Sorry, it's 14/16/0. From this video at around 2 min in. His 14/13/3 is also nice but I don't use it much.

EDIT: Something like this (Mobafire Masteries Builder Link).
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 01:19:46
February 25 2013 01:08 GMT
#2584
On February 25 2013 10:04 Nos- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:50 Ecael wrote:
I like how 2 different builds just got listed as the same person's build.

That said what's 19/11/0, wasn't that pre s3.

Well WX has 3 mastery pages as far as I know, and 19/11/0 and 14/13/3 are definitely among them

Curious, I guess it functions almost identical to the 19/11/0 of s2 for when you want to keep pen masteries over the block mastery. I had been using 17/13/0 here and there since S3 started but I haven't thought of dropping the crit stuff for mp5, will have to give that a try at some point for sure.
On February 25 2013 10:08 MoonBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 09:50 Ecael wrote:
I like how 2 different builds just got listed as the same person's build.

That said what's 19/11/0, wasn't that pre s3.

Sorry, it's 14/16/0. From this video at around 2 min in. His 14/13/3 is also nice but I don't use it much.

This bear why you trick me, may you have no Chihaya panels this week.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
February 25 2013 01:22 GMT
#2585
Is AP Yi still a thing or was the heal nerf too bad?
It's your boy Guzma!
Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
February 25 2013 01:25 GMT
#2586
On February 25 2013 10:22 Requizen wrote:
Is AP Yi still a thing or was the heal nerf too bad?


Meditate change made him less bullshit. He still does resetting well but isnt a raidboss while meditating.
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 25 2013 01:33 GMT
#2587
On February 25 2013 10:22 Requizen wrote:
Is AP Yi still a thing or was the heal nerf too bad?


Haven't seen a single Yi since nerf. Heal nerf was too bad imo.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
February 25 2013 01:43 GMT
#2588
On February 25 2013 10:00 IMoperator wrote:
Lee sin is so outclassed in the jungle now, it's really sad. Vi, Xin, J4 and Hec all do his job way better + arent useless lategame.


lee sin is a fine jungler
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 25 2013 01:54 GMT
#2589
I know that the Asian supports are known as the best in the world, but I was wondering, within both the EU and NA scenes are there any supports that are widely regarded as being "the best"? It seems to me hard to me to gauge the best supports as their effect on games is more subtle than other roles.
I got nothin'...
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
February 25 2013 01:56 GMT
#2590
wait what was the yi heal nerf thing?
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 25 2013 01:58 GMT
#2591
you only lose LP not MMR from dodging right?
I come in for the scraps
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 25 2013 01:59 GMT
#2592
On February 25 2013 10:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 10:00 IMoperator wrote:
Lee sin is so outclassed in the jungle now, it's really sad. Vi, Xin, J4 and Hec all do his job way better + arent useless lategame.


lee sin is a fine jungler


lee sin still dominates aggressive games which happens all the time at diamond. If its one of those slow pace games though then yea he is pretty bad
I come in for the scraps
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
February 25 2013 01:59 GMT
#2593
On February 25 2013 10:58 VayneAuthority wrote:
you only lose LP not MMR from dodging right?


True.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-02-25 02:03:03
February 25 2013 02:02 GMT
#2594
On February 25 2013 10:56 justiceknight wrote:
wait what was the yi heal nerf thing?

nerf to the AP ratio, buff to base heal, also buff to mana cost

v 3.01
Total heal amount increased to 200/350/500/650/800 from 140/280/420/560/700.
Total ability power ratio reduced to 2.0 from 4.0.
Mana cost reduced to 50/65/80/95/110 from 70/80/90/100/110
Ketara
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States15065 Posts
February 25 2013 02:22 GMT
#2595
On February 25 2013 10:33 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 10:22 Requizen wrote:
Is AP Yi still a thing or was the heal nerf too bad?


Haven't seen a single Yi since nerf. Heal nerf was too bad imo.


I have seen several. He's still unkillable while meditating.
http://www.liquidlegends.net/forum/lol-general/502075-patch-61-league-of-legends-general-discussion?page=25#498
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
February 25 2013 02:28 GMT
#2596
On February 25 2013 10:54 YouGotNothin wrote:
I know that the Asian supports are known as the best in the world, but I was wondering, within both the EU and NA scenes are there any supports that are widely regarded as being "the best"? It seems to me hard to me to gauge the best supports as their effect on games is more subtle than other roles.


As an avid fan of watching the support players, for EU the best, most consistent support in my humble opinion is Nyph. You'll be hard pressed to find a general consensus to the best supports, as the feelings of exactly what supports can be credited with doing is hard from a spectator perspective (if we had access to team chat more often we might see which support is most helpful to his team). For NA there's honestly no support who plays well enough consistently enough to have earned the crown of best support, but I've seen Patoy do some wonderful things in his time with Dignitas. He's a really great player.
Hey! How you doin'?
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 25 2013 02:42 GMT
#2597
On February 25 2013 10:54 YouGotNothin wrote:
I know that the Asian supports are known as the best in the world, but I was wondering, within both the EU and NA scenes are there any supports that are widely regarded as being "the best"? It seems to me hard to me to gauge the best supports as their effect on games is more subtle than other roles.

Chauster; back in S2. Easily the best in NA.

Right now because of stats; Patoy is the "best". NA supports are pretty underdeveloped in play.
liftlift > tsm
YouGotNothin
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States907 Posts
February 25 2013 02:47 GMT
#2598
On February 25 2013 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 10:54 YouGotNothin wrote:
I know that the Asian supports are known as the best in the world, but I was wondering, within both the EU and NA scenes are there any supports that are widely regarded as being "the best"? It seems to me hard to me to gauge the best supports as their effect on games is more subtle than other roles.

Chauster; back in S2. Easily the best in NA.

Right now because of stats; Patoy is the "best". NA supports are pretty underdeveloped in play.


Dang, because NA games are the ones I enjoy most to watch, and support is my favorite role, I wish I had caught Chauster in his support-playing time.
I got nothin'...
Mondeezy
Profile Joined August 2011
United States1938 Posts
February 25 2013 02:48 GMT
#2599
On February 25 2013 10:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 10:43 zulu_nation8 wrote:
On February 25 2013 10:00 IMoperator wrote:
Lee sin is so outclassed in the jungle now, it's really sad. Vi, Xin, J4 and Hec all do his job way better + arent useless lategame.


lee sin is a fine jungler


lee sin still dominates aggressive games which happens all the time at diamond. If its one of those slow pace games though then yea he is pretty bad


Yeah, I feel like the farmfest games I tend to suck with him, but the games with aggressive lane mates I do much better.
LoL NA: Mondeezy - TL - Riven <3
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 25 2013 02:52 GMT
#2600
On February 25 2013 11:47 YouGotNothin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 25 2013 11:42 wei2coolman wrote:
On February 25 2013 10:54 YouGotNothin wrote:
I know that the Asian supports are known as the best in the world, but I was wondering, within both the EU and NA scenes are there any supports that are widely regarded as being "the best"? It seems to me hard to me to gauge the best supports as their effect on games is more subtle than other roles.

Chauster; back in S2. Easily the best in NA.

Right now because of stats; Patoy is the "best". NA supports are pretty underdeveloped in play.


Dang, because NA games are the ones I enjoy most to watch, and support is my favorite role, I wish I had caught Chauster in his support-playing time.

Elementz has gotten pretty good at laning phase for support; might be able to learn a little bit watching Curse scrims. (his team fighting still suspect imo).
Patoy's strength is teamfighting; his laning phase is pretty standard support, nothing amazing.
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