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United States47024 Posts
On February 12 2013 02:05 Seuss wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 00:51 TheYango wrote:
Because chasing power is only useful when you actually win fights in the first place (buying cost-inefficient stats tends to not make you win straight-up fights), and as a kiting item, Triforce is more cost-efficient AND gives three kiting-relevant stats (MS, AS, and the slow), while Mallet gives a better slow but ONLY gives the slow and no MS or AS. Sticking power is important to winning fights. There's a 56.25% chance that an auto+reset will not apply Phage slow. Bad luck can mean your target uses an escape ability and begins kiting unimpaired. For a champion like Vi who doesn't have endless, unblockable gap closers (e.g. Xin Zhao) that can be fatal during a team fight. You can get around this by letting Vi take all Red buffs, but if your ranged AD carry needs them it can be a big issue. Warmog's without a means of slowing makes Vi's lack of sticking power apparent. That doesn't mean that Mallet is better than Warmog's, but I think the guaranteed slow on Mallet is undervalued (largely due to the popularity of champions like Xin Zhao who don't need it).
I was referring to his idea of Mallet on ADs. On melees, it's sort of a different issue because you can create situations where carries have to run from you even though you technically aren't stronger than them. "Sticking power" as you're discussing isn't as relevant to ADs though.
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On February 12 2013 02:50 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 02:05 Seuss wrote:On February 12 2013 00:51 TheYango wrote:
Because chasing power is only useful when you actually win fights in the first place (buying cost-inefficient stats tends to not make you win straight-up fights), and as a kiting item, Triforce is more cost-efficient AND gives three kiting-relevant stats (MS, AS, and the slow), while Mallet gives a better slow but ONLY gives the slow and no MS or AS. Sticking power is important to winning fights. There's a 56.25% chance that an auto+reset will not apply Phage slow. Bad luck can mean your target uses an escape ability and begins kiting unimpaired. For a champion like Vi who doesn't have endless, unblockable gap closers (e.g. Xin Zhao) that can be fatal during a team fight. You can get around this by letting Vi take all Red buffs, but if your ranged AD carry needs them it can be a big issue. Warmog's without a means of slowing makes Vi's lack of sticking power apparent. That doesn't mean that Mallet is better than Warmog's, but I think the guaranteed slow on Mallet is undervalued (largely due to the popularity of champions like Xin Zhao who don't need it). I was referring to his idea of Mallet on ADs. On melees, it's sort of a different issue because you can create situations where carries have to run from you even though you technically aren't stronger than them. "Sticking power" as you're discussing isn't as relevant to ADs though.
My mistake, I assumed since everyone was talking about Vi that your point was within the same context.
Mallet is only good on ADs when their ability to create gaps is greater than their opponent's ability to close them. Multiple diving opponents demolish its usefulness entirely. There are niche situations where it's strong, but then you should have Red buff for those situations anyway.
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What, a 5 second flash on Ez isn't good enough to kite? Need Frozenmallet now too? lol.
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Ireland23335 Posts
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On February 12 2013 03:04 wei2coolman wrote:
What, a 5 second flash on Ez isn't good enough to kite? Need Frozenmallet now too? lol.
I'm not trying to say that Ezreal is balanced but you won't always be able to kite even with just shift
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On February 12 2013 03:08 Slayer91 wrote:
dont forget frozen fist
Because kiting one person with phage proc isn't good enough, now you need to be able to kite the entire team with aoe slow.
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Does anyone know how you can record the amount of gold you have by time in a graph? I know DotA has in game charts. I want to figure out when it is that certain champs reach their peaks in DPS, and I've done the calculations assuming someone gets like 70% of all their lane creeps but real games are not that smooth.
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On February 12 2013 03:04 wei2coolman wrote:
What, a 5 second flash on Ez isn't good enough to kite? Need Frozenmallet now too? lol.
I think you're responding to me (not sure), so I'll elaborate.
Mallet's slow is only as useful as its ability to let you kite someone. If you can kite someone easily without it, or if you can't kite someone at all with it, then it isn't useful. So if there's a huge disparity between your ability to create gaps and your opponent's ability to close them (in either direction) then Mallet (and/or Red buff) isn't all that useful. If there's only a small disparity then Mallet (and/or Red buff) can keep an opponent at arm's length.
But because of Red buff, the propensity for multiple champions to dive, and the generally superior gap closers on champions that dive ranged ADs, Mallet is rarely useful on ranged ADs.
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:On February 12 2013 00:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
Man, I want to jump on the J4 train just so I can play Lu Bu with that amazing ult.
So worth it. I will never stop talking about that skin. His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler + I expected a bad pun.
Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun.
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On February 12 2013 02:34 IMoperator wrote:
Alright, well I got temp banned for 3 days and I'm so ridiculously bored right now lol. Does anyone know how many times you can be temp banned before you get perma'd?
I think i've been banned 4-5 times over the course of 3 years. Nothing more than 1 week though and I know there are 2 week bans so I'd say you're pretty safe
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On February 12 2013 03:34 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:On February 12 2013 00:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
Man, I want to jump on the J4 train just so I can play Lu Bu with that amazing ult.
So worth it. I will never stop talking about that skin. His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs I expected a bad pun. Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun.
I want to take a jab at this too.
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On February 12 2013 03:50 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:34 JonGalt wrote:On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:On February 12 2013 00:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
Man, I want to jump on the J4 train just so I can play Lu Bu with that amazing ult.
So worth it. I will never stop talking about that skin. His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs I expected a bad pun. Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun. I want to take a jab at this too.
TL LOL has pretty low comedic Standards.
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Ireland23335 Posts
We have our reputation at (the) stake!
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Pootie too good!4331 Posts
On February 12 2013 03:51 xes wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:50 obesechicken13 wrote:On February 12 2013 03:34 JonGalt wrote:On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:On February 12 2013 00:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:00 Requizen wrote:
Man, I want to jump on the J4 train just so I can play Lu Bu with that amazing ult.
So worth it. I will never stop talking about that skin. His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs I expected a bad pun. Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun. I want to take a jab at this too. TL LOL has pretty low comedic Standards.
I find our comedic standards quite exemplary.
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On February 12 2013 04:03 JonGalt wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 03:51 xes wrote:On February 12 2013 03:50 obesechicken13 wrote:On February 12 2013 03:34 JonGalt wrote:On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:On February 12 2013 00:03 AsmodeusXI wrote:
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So worth it. I will never stop talking about that skin. His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs I expected a bad pun. Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun. I want to take a jab at this too. TL LOL has pretty low comedic Standards. I find our comedic standards quite exemplary.
We are definitely the sharpest spears in the shed
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On February 12 2013 04:18 Phrost wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 04:03 JonGalt wrote:On February 12 2013 03:51 xes wrote:On February 12 2013 03:50 obesechicken13 wrote:On February 12 2013 03:34 JonGalt wrote:On February 12 2013 00:55 onlywonderboy wrote:On February 12 2013 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:22 BlueSpace wrote:On February 12 2013 00:12 AsmodeusXI wrote:On February 12 2013 00:06 Requizen wrote:
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His ult is super OP because when he uses it, I have to stop playing and appreciate how fucking badass it looks in comparison to the normal one. Looks like a fucking meteor hit a volcano and destroyed all the land around it. It's because his spear is a glorious adamantium missile with which he smites the Rift. When you press R his impenetrable armor and badass helm tassles become the hull and wings of a spaceship that flies into the air faster than the speed of light before dropping on squishies with the strength of ten thousand Volibear's and the throbbing, raging justice of Demacia. + Show Spoiler + You seem to like Jarvan's spear. It's a pretty good spear. + Show Spoiler +http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fwN0gcfrSxs I expected a bad pun. Please spear me the comedic effort of a pun. I want to take a jab at this too. TL LOL has pretty low comedic Standards. I find our comedic standards quite exemplary. We are definitely the sharpest spears in the shed
We are spearheading a new age of LoL commedy
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This is why we can't have nice things.
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and i thought people starting mach5 for fast jungle clear was funny.
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On February 12 2013 04:29 Cixah wrote:
This is why we can't have nice things.
How dare you break the Cadence of bad Jarvan puns. Are you in a Martial mood?
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On February 12 2013 02:05 Eiii wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2013 01:49 red_ wrote:On February 12 2013 01:48 XenOmega wrote:
Do we know how much losses we can afford before getting a demotion (After we just got promoted?) Depends on your MMR, which is hidden, enjoy. The only way you can get demoted is by not playing for a month or something like that.
Actually, I won 1 after promotion and 4 in a row,. got demoted
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