[Patch 1.0.0.154: Preseason Balance Update 2] GD - Page 46

On January 19 2013 05:10 zulu_nation8 wrote:
i learned today to always have your team ward the buff youre not starting at vs shaco

On January 19 2013 03:30 Complete wrote:
Is nunu considered so good with kog/cait purely because of their range?

On January 19 2013 05:53 Inschato wrote:
Also it's because Kog'maw and Caitlyn lack attack speed steroids. (Kog has a 10-30% passive one, but that's negligible compared to the real aspd steroids that almost every AD carry has). Attack speed bonuses don't really stack as well as some other things, so if a champion is using some of their power distribution on attack speed, Bloodboil isn't worth as much to them.

On January 19 2013 05:50 Sermokala wrote:


At max rank blood boil gives 44% as buff and a movement speed buff. Thats incredbily good for a hyper carry and the rest of nunu's kit is extremly favorable to zoning out for the adc allowing them to do their incredible damage.

On January 19 2013 05:54 Alaric wrote:

Varus, Caitlyn, Ashe, Corki (since it doesn't crit anymore) have arguably worse steroids. Sivir's is her ult, and the others have stronger but flat-duration ones (except for Ezreal). It's not that bad, when factored in with his range and W's magic damage.

On January 19 2013 05:43 Zaphod Beeblebrox wrote:
As far as I can tell on Vi:

Brutalizer alone makes your damage output really scary early on - but delaying your phage makes you rely on red buff for ganks.
BC synergizes with basically her entire kit, but you need the HP from Mallet to survive longer engagements. I think the best strategy is to go phage/bruta and then upgrade the one you need the most.
Wits end is amazing - don't get hexdrinker.
BT is great for your incredible AD scaling, but getting both BT and BC is overkill.
Vi can use up her mana surprisingly fast - FH seems like a good answer to this.
Warmogs is a great item.

I'm starting to piece together a build looking like this:

Machete-Wriggles?-Tabi/Mercs-Phage/Bruta-Bruta/Phage-Mallet(BC if ahead)-wits/glacial -> situational (most likely FH and Warmogs)

On January 19 2013 05:54 Alaric wrote:
Problem with wit's is it's expensive and hard to piece together (recurve and combine cost still somewhat high) and won't help for prolonged fights.
I tried Seuss' build and while it was indeed good for dps/burst and clear speed, while relying on HP for tanking magic damage, it needs some MR once you get you belt (or finish mallet) or else you start taking quite some damage from poke and burst aimed at you (enemy team had Amumu+Ahri and I was going in first, also Leona AoE made me hit 2+ procs a fight). I went machete->tabi->phage->stinger->belt->finish randuin's, then I finished mallet because I needed the sure slow (Nidalee+Ahri biggest enemy threats, damn hard to stick to) and only then I bought MR. Should probably have finished mallet instead of randuin's, and then padded a slow with negatron or started working on wit's/aegis.

She doesn't need to upgrade machete to clear fast, her W is great against big monsters and maxing E first you pretty much always have 2 to annihilate each camp's basic monsters just by hitting the big one.

On January 19 2013 06:15 Alaric wrote:
Bjergsen from Copenhagen Wolves playing Syndra.
And my ISP having his usual "between 6 and 11 PM? Gonna have seizure on Twitch" thing. >>

On January 19 2013 06:17 Seuss wrote:


Don't max E first. You get a negligible damage increase and the cooldown reduction isn't all that useful when fights tend to expand outward as they progress. I've been maxing Q first for the burst damage, chase, and escape potential, followed by W for the extra attack speed and % Health damage.

And definitely get Mallet before Randuin's. It feels selfish, but you're far, far scarier with a permanent 40% slow than with a chance at a 25% slow.

On January 19 2013 05:50 Sermokala wrote:


At max rank blood boil gives 44% as buff and a movement speed buff. Thats incredbily good for a hyper carry and the rest of nunu's kit is extremly favorable to zoneing out for the adc allowing them to do their incredible damage.

On January 19 2013 06:29 NpG)Explosive wrote:


Blood boil doesn't give 65% AS anymore?

On January 19 2013 06:17 Dusty wrote:
Has anyone tried out Diana and Rengar now that Riot has un-gutted them?

On January 19 2013 06:37 Requizen wrote:

Diana's good, but still not as good as when she could ult from 3 screens away. Rengar wasn't horrible after the nerf, imo, but these definitely help.

On January 19 2013 06:54 zulu_nation8 wrote:
played a game a while ago where youngmini was lee vs a shaco jungle and we had no cc for lv1 yet he insisted on invading to pop boxes, and when shaco wasnt at blue, he had the whole team go red until all boxes were popped. I'm guessing that's what you're supposed to do every game vs a shaco.