EPT[Patch 1.0.0.154: Preseason Balance Update 2] GD - Page 45
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jcc
United States472 Posts
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fishinguy
Russian Federation798 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:23 kainzero wrote: i think vlad counters elise easily. Elise has some ridiculous early all ins, it can be really tricky to survive until vlad can get to the infinite sustain position. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
I think he's talking about the "current common duo lanes" part, which features stuff like Ezreal-Sona but no MF-x. He shouldn't have said "totally" but his point is still fair I think. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:37 Alaric wrote: I think he's talking about the "current common duo lanes" part, which features stuff like Ezreal-Sona but no MF-x. He shouldn't have said "totally" but his point is still fair I think. Yeah this is what I meant. Sorry for not being clear. | ||
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spellsy
United States418 Posts
however, do you guys think the image is too big ? i was looking at the old imaeg: http://i.imgur.com/boqQE.jpg and i think its a bit silly how you can see almost all the picks on 1 line while for this it is like doubled in size  | ||
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Gahlo
United States35172 Posts
I think he's referring to the common lane setup section. EDIT: Also, thank you for updating this Spellsy, I use it all the time. =] | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:28 Alaric wrote: Hm... didn't think about it enough I guess. And since her passive gives her a shield based on %maxHP its EHP scales equally from HP and MR, is it it (iirc that what I've been told regarding Maokai's passive's effect on his itemization)? I simply liked wit's a lot because of the AS (I like Vi as a brawler, "I'll wear you down in the end" style so I favor tankiness and AS over AD/ArPen) but had trouble fitting both it and Phage (she really needs something to stick until her Q gets down to a lower cd) and mercs then getting to bigger items. + Show Spoiler + The initial 2-3k gold from the jungle are easy to obtain but past that some lanes start winning more and roaming, requiring more wards and presence from the jungler, so I can't perma farm as well and if I have to help the lanes being roamed to it impacts my ability to cover/tax too. It's a recurrent motif in my jungling but I wonder if it doesn't have more to do with my style/lack of skill rather than natural game flow. I didn't think of stinger/zephyr as a wait to get cheap AS and later tenacity, but since Vi likes AS as much (if not better) than AD, and CDR a lot it makes a lot of sense. I'm gonna try that. I often feel a bit weak in longer fights without lifesteal too (or even against poke, since her passive requires her to hit something to proc). Wriggles' way to slot-inefficient though (and not cost-efficient enough), though, and BT is out of the question. BotrK seems good on her (scales best with AS and ArPen, Vi itemizes AS and gets AS and Armour Reduction from W, and the active gives her another way to stick) but you'd get it pretty late. Zeke gives lifesteal and CDR on top of being a team item, but it's pretty weak damage-wise early on for its cost, and the lifesteal is weak too (only 10%). Hydra could be a very good item on her (if I get it right her E would proc it, so auto->E->hydra active would give her a load of AoE) but it's pretty expensive and tiamat has no lifesteal either. Any ideas, or do you just do without it (mallet+randuin's if a fuckton of health to go through before they wear you down anyway). I just ignore Life Steal. Between Tabi and her passive, jungle sustain is simply not an issue. If I was super ridiculously fed I'd probably aim for Hydra because it's so good (Health Regeneration be damned), but under normal circumstances there just isn't a place for it to fit into the build. On January 19 2013 03:47 spellsy wrote: i mena mf might be seen as the strongest but shes by far not picked more than someone like ez or even picked more than cait or graves, also, there isnt some classic mf lane (other than mf taric, which is a bit outdated), its just "mf + x"when mf+x is already covered in the ad section of the guide. however, do you guys think the image is too big ? i was looking at the old imaeg: http://i.imgur.com/boqQE.jpg and i think its a bit silly how you can see almost all the picks on 1 line while for this it is like doubled in size The new image is way more readable. The smaller, compact format of the first image might be more efficient for someone who is used to it, but for educating the masses the new image is far superior. | ||
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kyarisan
United States347 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:47 spellsy wrote: i mena mf might be seen as the strongest but shes by far not picked more than someone like ez or even picked more than cait or graves, also, there isnt some classic mf lane (other than mf taric, which is a bit outdated), its just "mf + x"when mf+x is already covered in the ad section of the guide. however, do you guys think the image is too big ? i was looking at the old imaeg: http://i.imgur.com/boqQE.jpg and i think its a bit silly how you can see almost all the picks on 1 line while for this it is like doubled in size You might wanna try just putting the 3 sections side-by-side instead of top-to-bottom, seeing as most monitors are wider than they are tall and it would have to zoom out much less to see the whole thing  love the guide <3 | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Btw Seuss, which masteries on Vi? Been trying 9-21-0, but 9-12-9 prob works too for buff duration. I don't see the point in 21-9 or 21-0-9 since I aim at soaking damage. (I'm currently testing switching from starting gold to awareness with the 0-9-21 masteries for utility junglers like Amumu and Naut.) | ||
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
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discator
Germany639 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:47 spellsy wrote: i mena mf might be seen as the strongest but shes by far not picked more than someone like ez or even picked more than cait or graves, also, there isnt some classic mf lane (other than mf taric, which is a bit outdated), its just "mf + x"when mf+x is already covered in the ad section of the guide. however, do you guys think the image is too big ? i was looking at the old imaeg: http://i.imgur.com/boqQE.jpg and i think its a bit silly how you can see almost all the picks on 1 line while for this it is like doubled in size bad against urgot- soraka good against urgot - soraka ??^^ | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On January 19 2013 04:55 discator wrote: bad against urgot- soraka good against urgot - soraka ??^^ Good with Bad against | ||
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Lylat
France8575 Posts
Just read^^ it's good with and good against | ||
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discator
Germany639 Posts
I am so dumb lol | ||
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
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zulu_nation8
China26351 Posts
On January 19 2013 03:47 spellsy wrote: i mena mf might be seen as the strongest but shes by far not picked more than someone like ez or even picked more than cait or graves, also, there isnt some classic mf lane (other than mf taric, which is a bit outdated), its just "mf + x"when mf+x is already covered in the ad section of the guide. however, do you guys think the image is too big ? i was looking at the old imaeg: http://i.imgur.com/boqQE.jpg and i think its a bit silly how you can see almost all the picks on 1 line while for this it is like doubled in size i have that page bookmarked for solo queue, its helpful for the most part but there are some ADs like twitch who are not listed and also some picks that i dont understand. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 19 2013 05:12 zulu_nation8 wrote: i have that page bookmarked for solo queue, its helpful for the most part but there are some ADs like twitch who are not listed and also some picks that i dont understand. New one has Twitch in it. He gave reasoning for the choices in a separate document but it's not in the infographic. | ||
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GregMandel
France822 Posts
edit : found it, Robert pretty nice guy manually linking me to the youtube playlist :D | ||
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remedium
United States939 Posts
On January 19 2013 05:25 GregMandel wrote: Guys I really need ROBERTOxLEE's playlist, any idea where i can get it ? 30 seconds to mars radio, on pandora | ||
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