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wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 23 2013 08:59 GMT
#2021
how the fuck do you counter zed? i keep getting run over by him in team fights as ad. All i can come up with is qss :l
BW -> League -> CSGO
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
January 23 2013 09:02 GMT
#2022
had this happen to my friend while we were doing baron. no death message, and death recap said that vayne got the kill with zero damage, assisted by baron using alistar pulverize... but they didn't get a kill on the scoreboard.





i laughed so hard
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 23 2013 09:23 GMT
#2023
Janna died to barons knock up, but the animation didn't show I'm guessing.
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 23 2013 09:37 GMT
#2024
On January 23 2013 15:27 Koenig99 wrote:
Funny story time: Marn used to be on my friends list when he first started out playing LoL (added him because he was looking for people to play with on SRK forums), but I unfriended him about 2 months later because he sucked so much and was just a general asshole to people. Now he has his own pro team and I'm still stuck in 1300 elo.....

I deleted XJ9 from my list in S1 because I thought he was a scrub LOL
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
Shotcoder
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2316 Posts
January 23 2013 09:59 GMT
#2025
On January 23 2013 17:59 wussleeQ wrote:
how the fuck do you counter zed? i keep getting run over by him in team fights as ad. All i can come up with is qss :l


Warmogs.
Shotcoder - C+ BW Terran, Gold LoL(ADC Main)
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11998 Posts
January 23 2013 10:06 GMT
#2026
I don't see how qss would help you against zed, at all. He does physical damage, so the MR is useless. And he does not really have any hard cc to cleanse, either. Basically any other defensive item would help you more.
bobbob
Profile Joined December 2009
United States368 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 10:10:35
January 23 2013 10:10 GMT
#2027
QSS is really good, removes his ult.

EDIT: But yeah, not sure if health is just better.
EquilasH
Profile Joined April 2009
Denmark2142 Posts
January 23 2013 10:46 GMT
#2028
Zhonya's for AP's and Warmog's for everyone else. GA is also ok.
wat
GregMandel
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
France822 Posts
January 23 2013 11:12 GMT
#2029
If the adc builds a warmog then maybe the bruiser would consider investing into BotRK, reducing the use of a warmog

I think you just have to run for your fking life and pray that your team focuses him or at least CCs him enough
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD8QLNiolfk - Racing with the sun
Sven Stryker
Profile Joined December 2011
United States423 Posts
January 23 2013 13:01 GMT
#2030
I still think Thresh's E should go the other direction. Aiming away from your enemy isn't intuitive and should be on the push since you're probably trying to create distance when they're closing and easier to hit.
ItsFunToLose
Profile Joined December 2010
United States776 Posts
January 23 2013 13:31 GMT
#2031
On January 23 2013 10:53 OutlaW- wrote:
Guys, what if we made it impossible to escape J4's ultimate (not even with flash, ez's E, etc.) but we made everyone inside invulnerable (including CC and debuffs) to everyone not inside?



What if every time jarvan ulted someone, the game paused and it warped the two players to a special 1v1 arena where everyone watched until a victor emerged. then the game resumes from the location of jarvan's ult with one winner standing in the smoldering ashes of his arena.
"skillshots are inherently out of your control whether they hit or not" -PrinceXizor
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 23 2013 13:37 GMT
#2032
On January 23 2013 22:31 ItsFunToLose wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 10:53 OutlaW- wrote:
Guys, what if we made it impossible to escape J4's ultimate (not even with flash, ez's E, etc.) but we made everyone inside invulnerable (including CC and debuffs) to everyone not inside?



What if every time jarvan ulted someone, the game paused and it warped the two players to a special 1v1 arena where everyone watched until a victor emerged. then the game resumes from the location of jarvan's ult with one winner standing in the smoldering ashes of his arena.


Everyone inside starts to fight in a ffa and there will be 1 survivor so you have to be careful when you ult :D.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
January 23 2013 13:44 GMT
#2033
if thresh isnt extremele strong or completely overpowered when he's released, depending on his numbers, I will buy a hat only so that I can eat it.
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
January 23 2013 14:13 GMT
#2034
league of locket and health belt huehuehuehuehue
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Zdrastochye
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
January 23 2013 14:28 GMT
#2035
Hurry up and patch Thresh innnnn. I have RP burning a hole in my pocket.
Hey! How you doin'?
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
January 23 2013 15:02 GMT
#2036
On January 23 2013 19:06 Simberto wrote:
I don't see how qss would help you against zed, at all. He does physical damage, so the MR is useless. And he does not really have any hard cc to cleanse, either. Basically any other defensive item would help you more.

He'll only have his 2 spells to hurt you and a couple of autos rather than having his ulti hit and losing a big chunk of your health
BW -> League -> CSGO
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 15:40:06
January 23 2013 15:28 GMT
#2037
tonight (or yesterday) xj9 game with "how to react when you're invaded and bullied around (hint: it revolves around "farming away" and he's not the one who keeps blue buff away from his mid. Cuts before the end too, people went to WoDx/Jiji stream to watch the end.)
+ Show Spoiler +
Cris GA gets popped in a fight then Cris+WoDx want to Baron instead of ending the game uncontested, they can't baron and next fight Cris dives too far/Jiji refuses to ult him, whatever the truth he gets demolished and it goes downhill with an inhib down for invader team. Cris fails a backdoor and Ryze+Janna+Draven fight 3v4 until Vi+Olaf dash out of the fog of war and clean-up.


On January 23 2013 17:41 Seuss wrote:
As a final note if you time it right you can jump to the enemy during the second tug on Death Sentence, maximizing the distance they're dragged while also placing you on the other side of them. You can actually see this in the spotlight (at 1:05).

It doesn't put you behind them if you reactivate it before that?

On January 23 2013 17:59 wussleeQ wrote:
how the fuck do you counter zed? i keep getting run over by him in team fights as ad. All i can come up with is qss :l

Hope he builds glass-cannon so you can burst him down during cc. "Just negate his ult and he only has 2 spells to hit you with" is wishful thinking when the guy can have 300+ AD while still building tanky thanks to his W. Also 200 + 0.8 bonus AD AoE on a 3s cd. Zed is an "assassin" but he's still got one of the best dps in the game even when building warmogs+GA just to state how much he'll cling to you.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
January 23 2013 15:40 GMT
#2038
i dont think he did anything out of the ordinary after he got both of his buffs taken, and the fact ninjaken was same lvl as him at 6 was kinda bad.
Seuss
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States10536 Posts
January 23 2013 15:47 GMT
#2039
On January 24 2013 00:28 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 17:41 Seuss wrote:
As a final note if you time it right you can jump to the enemy during the second tug on Death Sentence, maximizing the distance they're dragged while also placing you on the other side of them. You can actually see this in the spotlight (at 1:05).

It doesn't put you behind them if you reactivate it before that?


Maybe it's more consistent now, but on his initial PBE release you could end up in front of your opponent.
"I am not able to carry all this people alone, for they are too heavy for me." -Moses (Numbers 11:14)
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 15:51:58
January 23 2013 15:51 GMT
#2040
I found it pretty interesting to watch considering how often he just farms away and snowballs the game pretty hard, it also forced him to shift his focus to peeling rather than diving/going balls out on damage (his stream crash saddened me a bit because while we could still watch the game [from other streams] his PoV showed the difference in style quite obviously).
Also I often see teams overextend and die a lot for farm (kinda how Ryze did it at wolves several times instead of waiting for the wave to reach the mid tower) or just group as 5 and desperately try to save their turrets. I know it's part of his style, but as soon as he saw the enemy team not grouped up (Ez bot, rest mid) or whenever he thought they would be able to waveclear/hold at a tower he'd split to farm. Since the "collapse as 5 and camp a tower when you have an advantage" happens so often in soloQ, I thought that this early-midgame showed quite well the difference there is between a low farm guy desperately trying to defend, and somebody who managed to snatch gold and has more items.

Wasn't ninjaken level 6 at roughly the same time because xj9 and Olaf got a bunch of xp off of Cris (level 9 vs level 6 when they got his bounty... ) and Ninjaken ganked top, mid and bot several times without kills while xj9 farmed his jungle?
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
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