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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
January 23 2013 04:12 GMT
#1981
XJ9 just 100-0 two people with evolved Q+W on Kha'Zix wtf.

Why is Kha isolation damage so strong T_T
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JeosAdn
Profile Joined September 2011
Costa Rica432 Posts
January 23 2013 04:17 GMT
#1982
On January 23 2013 13:12 xes wrote:
XJ9 just 100-0 two people with evolved Q+W on Kha'Zix wtf.

Why is Kha isolation damage so strong T_T


If by "people" you mean ShakeDrizzle lol
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 23 2013 04:17 GMT
#1983
He also doesn't evolve E (going WQR). I'd try to ask him why in chat but it's become a classic twitch chat since he got popular so I get drowned under asslicking, laughs and "gay" whenever I try. Too bad since he seems to talk about his play or answer questions a lot more since then.

I guess that's because he doesn't plan for the teamfights but rather to simply get fed and smash face, so he doesn't care about the situations where he won't have the isolation bonus easily.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 23 2013 04:19 GMT
#1984
On January 23 2013 08:44 Scip wrote:
I really like XJ9's playstyle and think it deserves a lot of respect, very few people indeed play in that style so he's quite a pioneer.
Also, I think the 1v2 2v1 lanes are quite natural and fine. I mean what else would you expect when the sides are NOT mirrored? It might even evolve into a completely standard thing, where purple will always send their duo top and blue will always send their duo bot. I don't really see a reason why we would to preserve the lane roles as they are right now.


Because the problem with 1v2 is it is incredibly boring to watch, from the pov of an observer of pro games, its SOOO boring to watch. I've not experienced it much in SoloQ, aside from the occasional trollgame/normal where I 1v2 usually against 2 bruisers, so I can't comment there (that is annoying, but you don't usually get harrassed out of lane as badly, and can usually just hope your team can win from the jungle pressure). But watching a competitive game without fog of war it becomes very stale to watch.

You can usually tell which AD/Support lane will be better at pushing or diving. Then you can see the obvious 3v1 dive coming, plus you can see if it is going to end up a 3v2 because the jungler is coming. The lvl 3 towerdives almost always work if the jungler doesn't come because the solo lane is zoned from exp so much that he is levels behind the jungler and both duo laners. Plus these dives are further re-enforcing the jungle problems with junglers falling even behind supports in levels.

Just from a viewer's perspective, as obviously the 2v1 stuff is not prevalent even at the highest ELOs, and the lvl 3 dives even less so (and those are actually kinda fun to watch on streams, because of the fog of war).
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Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 04:26:03
January 23 2013 04:20 GMT
#1985


I miss Phreak doing the recommended items. At least gave us a clue about some of the more different champions.
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Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 04:21:20
January 23 2013 04:20 GMT
#1986
On January 23 2013 13:17 Alaric wrote:
I guess that's because he doesn't plan for the teamfights but rather to simply get fed and smash face, so he doesn't care about the situations where he won't have the isolation bonus easily.

XJ9 builds for soloq so he optimizes exploiting enemy team mistakes and carrying a derping team that doesn't group and tries to throw all day.

I think pro gamers have demonstrated that WER or WRE is the way to go for arranged play so that you can super mario on their team.
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Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 04:23:24
January 23 2013 04:22 GMT
#1987
I still don't understand why people don't go Sheen > Lich Bane on Diana. It's SOOOO good. Stacks with her passive (rip down towers), her timers are work for it (if you q something, the moonlight wont wear off b4 the next charge so you can still ult), has good stats, etc.
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arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 23 2013 04:22 GMT
#1988
Golden quote
ipotateuhate: is it true that chaox has 2 nutsacks?
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
January 23 2013 04:23 GMT
#1989
On January 23 2013 13:08 gtrsrs wrote:
for the record, we're really good friends with TheGodOne (new nickname for frommaplestreet dubbed by a random twitch.tv chat member, TYVM) and it's always been his intention to play on our team

the korean-symbol support and frommaplestreet were our starting bot lane a few months ago. i unfortunately had to let boxboxbox go because of his erratic schedule. that's when we put prophet in support role and our bot lane got a lot worse. we lost 2 games in a row to curse in ranked 5s and frommaplestreet decided the losses were mostly his fault, so he left the team temporarily to do "intense waterfall training" as he called it. basically he just needed a ton of practice to be competitive, in his eyes

at that point we picked up ecko and that was the roster you saw in the LCS. a short time before the LCS, maple asked if he could rejoin, which we were super happy about, but Riot told me that he couldn't compete with us in LA. it was a little sketchy because they allowed Azure to pick up demunlul, who was at no point on their ranked roster. but i didn't fight it, thought we could get salaried anyway.

after the loss, maple rejoined the team and we picked up jaewon/boxboxbox/theinvisibleman again, now with a more stable schedule. our bot lane is much stronger now as shown by today's performance imo. hopefully we can retain them until april for the second LCS ^_^

also, i've never seen such a lopsided game as g1 ever in competitive play. game 2 was really good and jiji's team closed it out really well. and then game 3 was just super exciting. super good set, i hope tomorrow's matches are as good


^^ this is the kinda post people want to read
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 23 2013 04:53 GMT
#1990
Looks like they changed some of Thresh's animations since I tried him. E's range seems to have been increased, same with the pull/knock-back effect, which can't be bad (it was really really short at first). His Q also pulls a lot faster than it did previously (slight pause between the two short pulls, took 1.5s total to pull, maybe they didn't want that to work as a 1.5s suppression especially at point-blank range), and when you reactivate it it showed you being pulled to your target prreviously, now it seems like a blink that makes you appear directly behind the target. Not sure how I like it—it seems stronger from a gameplay PoV (faster, easier chaining of QE) but seeing yourself glide toward your chained target was pretty funny (and Thresh has pretty nice animations and quotes).

Moving and "turning" still seem pretty awkward though, as it is with for example Syndra. These models with "standing out" parts don't go well with the engine.


Also, Xj9 jungling Hecarim. He laughed after his last game as to how people ban Vi/Hecarim/Zed while his Kha has a higher win% than those 3.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 23 2013 04:56 GMT
#1991
On January 23 2013 12:57 Alaric wrote:
Scarra getting caught all day.
God Kha'Zix+Yorick is such a fucking obnoxious combo. Use Kayle ult+exhaust+kiting to make sure Kha'Zix doesn't get a reset? Doesn't matter, get resurrected and his ghost kills Ez anyway and almost kills Xin with the reset.

Chrispy+Shake duo on Xj9's stream. Shake's support and Chrispy mid.

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OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
January 23 2013 05:01 GMT
#1992
On January 23 2013 13:53 Alaric wrote:
Looks like they changed some of Thresh's animations since I tried him. E's range seems to have been increased, same with the pull/knock-back effect, which can't be bad (it was really really short at first). His Q also pulls a lot faster than it did previously (slight pause between the two short pulls, took 1.5s total to pull, maybe they didn't want that to work as a 1.5s suppression especially at point-blank range), and when you reactivate it it showed you being pulled to your target prreviously, now it seems like a blink that makes you appear directly behind the target. Not sure how I like it—it seems stronger from a gameplay PoV (faster, easier chaining of QE) but seeing yourself glide toward your chained target was pretty funny (and Thresh has pretty nice animations and quotes).

Moving and "turning" still seem pretty awkward though, as it is with for example Syndra. These models with "standing out" parts don't go well with the engine.


Also, Xj9 jungling Hecarim. He laughed after his last game as to how people ban Vi/Hecarim/Zed while his Kha has a higher win% than those 3.

His Vi winrate on his smurf is 44%, even though it looks like he dominates with her every game. Also, we should really go to sleep, lol.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
dae
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada1600 Posts
January 23 2013 05:04 GMT
#1993
On January 23 2013 13:22 Diamond wrote:
I still don't understand why people don't go Sheen > Lich Bane on Diana. It's SOOOO good. Stacks with her passive (rip down towers), her timers are work for it (if you q something, the moonlight wont wear off b4 the next charge so you can still ult), has good stats, etc.


Doesnt give her defense, thats basically it.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 23 2013 05:04 GMT
#1994
NA streams worst night trap ever.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
January 23 2013 05:16 GMT
#1995
On January 23 2013 13:20 Zooper31 wrote:
http://youtu.be/Sv95nBi7ulQ

I miss Phreak doing the recommended items. At least gave us a clue about some of the more different champions.

I build Thresh as a Jungler making sure to pick up a fast Triforce and wriggles lantern combined with 3 fotm items and boots to round out my build.

~Phreak in every spotlight.

Tbh, Phreak's recommended items and runes and summoners contribute to people trying a champion one way instead of figuring things out for themselves. I think the showcase should really be used to show how a champion is played rather than how it's built. But watching Phreak make plays is entertaining too.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
January 23 2013 05:17 GMT
#1996
On January 23 2013 12:19 Eppa! wrote:
Where can I find vods for WE games? EDIT: Replays are even better.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391588

Only games I got pointed to for those recently. Hopefully TheYango or someone who knows the scene can hook us up cause that team is a monster lately.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
January 23 2013 05:20 GMT
#1997
I'd have like some part showing how vision can help you land those Qs and use your lantern to 2v1 an unsuspecting opponent. Maybe people would have more love for wards this way.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 23 2013 05:40 GMT
#1998
On January 23 2013 14:17 KissBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2013 12:19 Eppa! wrote:
Where can I find vods for WE games? EDIT: Replays are even better.


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=391588

Only games I got pointed to for those recently. Hopefully TheYango or someone who knows the scene can hook us up cause that team is a monster lately.

Does it matter if they're on S3 patch or later? Because AFAIK all they've played on S3 patch are the SWL games and G-League semis vs. Royal. Han Pro League might have also been S3 patch, I don't remember, but I can't seem to find VODs for that anyway.

G-League VODs:
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAxNTg2NzMy.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAxNTgyNDM2.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAyMDI4MTAw.html
http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XNTAyMDYxNjIw.html
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Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-23 05:48:40
January 23 2013 05:46 GMT
#1999
It really doesn't matter; obviously later is better. Are chinese replays never given out?


Also thank you,, youko is impossible for me to find vods there.
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Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
January 23 2013 05:52 GMT
#2000
On January 23 2013 13:20 Zooper31 wrote:
http://youtu.be/Sv95nBi7ulQ

I miss Phreak doing the recommended items. At least gave us a clue about some of the more different champions.


God this champion seems so OP.
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