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On December 17 2012 11:18 Ryalnos wrote:
This caster on tsmtournaments just doesn't know when to stop. He makes some reference/joke which is already shitty, then continues running with it for 30 seconds...

On December 17 2012 11:26 onlywonderboy wrote:

And for whatever reason, this is the very reason why so many people like Wombat.

On December 17 2012 11:29 Ryalnos wrote:


Was he the guy who at IPL laughed for every single ward clear? I just don't get it. He's got a good caster voice but that's about it.

On December 17 2012 11:36 iCanada wrote:
Am I the the only one who thinks support is the greatest thing in the entire world after that patch?

So much fun, so much gold. Three games in a row on Lulu I've had more gold than the enemy AD. SIghtstone saves you stupid amounts on wards, and you can itemize whatever the hell you want nowadays and you don't get called a troll. People think it bawss as hell if you rush a chalice where as before even if you won lane stupidly hard you trolling.

I feel like just maining support. Its like a playground... you get huge impact on game, can do whatever you want, and even if you lose everyone just blame someone else as long as you didn't blatantly feed.

On December 17 2012 11:11 wussleeQ wrote:
i'm just waiting for twitch to be noticed. he's my favorite ad atm even managed to steal baron with autos over the wall with his ulti lol

On December 17 2012 11:36 iCanada wrote:
Am I the the only one who thinks support is the greatest thing in the entire world after that patch?

So much fun, so much gold. Three games in a row on Lulu I've had more gold than the enemy AD. SIghtstone saves you stupid amounts on wards, and you can itemize whatever the hell you want nowadays and you don't get called a troll. People think it bawss as hell if you rush a chalice where as before even if you won lane stupidly hard you trolling.

I feel like just maining support. Its like a playground... you get huge impact on game, can do whatever you want, and even if you lose everyone just blame someone else as long as you didn't blatantly feed.

On December 17 2012 11:26 onlywonderboy wrote:

And for whatever reason, this is the very reason why so many people like Wombat.

On December 17 2012 12:02 overt wrote:


I like Wombat simply because his voice is pleasant to listen to. Which is honestly the single most important thing for a play-by-play caster. He was/is worried that his career will be cut short due to how Riot's S3 will affect smaller tournaments but honestly if you put him with a knowledgeable caster such as Jatt or Kobe24 I think he'd be perfect.

After Joe Miller/Deman he's easily the best play-by-play caster for English League atm.

On December 17 2012 11:36 iCanada wrote:
Am I the the only one who thinks support is the greatest thing in the entire world after that patch?

So much fun, so much gold. Three games in a row on Lulu I've had more gold than the enemy AD. SIghtstone saves you stupid amounts on wards, and you can itemize whatever the hell you want nowadays and you don't get called a troll. People think it bawss as hell if you rush a chalice where as before even if you won lane stupidly hard you trolling.

I feel like just maining support. Its like a playground... you get huge impact on game, can do whatever you want, and even if you lose everyone just blame someone else as long as you didn't blatantly feed.

On December 17 2012 12:12 Alaric wrote:

How do I max CDR noooooooow aaaaaaaaaaaaaah. D:
So much good stuff, but that means less money for other good stuff, even including ionian boots (well I mainly play Leona and Sona and I love Janna, on Sona it's fine but Janna doesn't even need MS so you're paying a lot for those 15%, and on Leona I tend to prefer tabi or mercs as you get into the thick of things).
Locket gives me 10%, my mastery choices give me 6% on non-Leona, but since Shurelya is now only a "buy if you need the active" stuff (which makes me a bit sad, when shurelya was a first-buy or a must-have by midgame it made initiations and mobility in general more dynamic and "fast-paced" I feel) and bulwark is so good but also so expensive, I don't get to buy much more cdr. Even if I don't get one of those two, it's because I took crucible or shard before that.

On December 17 2012 12:33 cLutZ wrote:


Janna needs some sort of buff. I know there was a point where she was too strong, but it is nearly impossible to use howling gale effectively now. I mean, I had a game where I was pretty fed, and my Ezreal was super fed, but Gale is too easy to dodge (even when its not charged) to need to charge up to have a decent knockup time.

I only QQ cus janna is fun.

On December 17 2012 12:44 Alaric wrote:
I dunno, crucible is good enough (and with a long enough cd) that one could consider buying it in multiples too. Of course I wouldn't get it on, say, Leona, but Sona benefiting well from chalice kinda lends itself to her being a crucible candidate.
Locket I like on Leona too, simply because the emblem is a good item on her during the laning phase and the stats+shield from locket combined with her W steroid help making aggressive plays through better tankiness.

More realistically, I'm not sure how I would try and cap myself now... shurelya I already didn't buy much unless the comps called for it because I tended to buy aegis first and hold onto shurelya's parts (didn't buy HoG anymore after the nerf, and 550 isn't too much when you know you'll soon need shuremya). A support is easily cramped for slots now, with flask+sightstone+boots+pink wards, so you can't really have a kindlegem sitting in your inventory like previously.

Zeke's is a good CDR candidate but gives less-than-desirable stats on a support anyway, and less desirable for your AD too (since the aura went from AS to AD, which I dislike a lot as it makes Nunu support an even bigger factor now), so I don't really see myself rushing it (esp. since the change to AD makes it better on champs like Olaf). I'm not a FH rusher like a lot of Leona/Blitz I've seen (silly you, randuin's was way better on Leona in s2).

So I guess 10 from locket/shurelya, 15 from boots and sometimes 6 from masteries... up to 31% cdr, not that bad, but with less desirable items than before.

On December 17 2012 13:03 YouGotNothin wrote:
Since we are on the topic of support items, when do you guys typically pick up a sightstone and when do you upgrade it? It is so expensive in upfront cost, that I find it can really delay some of my key support items (crucible, locket). Honestly I don't really like the item, unupgraded, two wards at a time is rarely enough, and I still have to buy pinks (even more so with the oracles nerf). And when I do get the money to upgrade it, it seems I am at the point in the game where often 3 wards at a time is not enough.

On December 17 2012 12:56 iCanada wrote:


I dont think you necessarily need CDR. You can buy damage and not get yelled at for trolling. AD carries don't really know how to deal with you chunking them for half their HP in a round of spells. You ever seen an AD get Magic resist in lane? Imagine a support with Sorc shoes and a haunting guise. Just from base damage you hit them for 500~ true damage. Even if they ahead of you in items or CS, their Support rocking S2 support items you just going to win trades, and win lanes anyway.

On December 17 2012 13:20 iCanada wrote:


I've personally been putting it off a fair bit. I dunno how right it is, but I been starting like this:

Flask+Wards->Boots+RubyCrystal/AmpTomb+Ward->Haunting Guise+Ward->Sorc Shoes+Ward->Chalice->Sightstone

I just kind of dicking around, changing things up every game. I dunno if you actually need both Sorc shoes and Haunting, I just know that MPen Lulu so awesome.