EPTAny current teams you think have the potential to compete on an international level, or just future prospects?
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
Any current teams you think have the potential to compete on an international level, or just future prospects? | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:29 BlackPaladin wrote: Got that santa baron, haven't played in over a week, and half the time only play bot games for fwotd. BP most honorable bot slayer. gg Welcome to the club. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
why is she so popular all of a sudden | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:50 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: FUCK SO TIRED OF CAITLIN why is she so popular all of a sudden WX and Bebe played her to great success in recent tournament. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
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Keniji
Netherlands2569 Posts
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Gahlo
United States35162 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:54 Requizen wrote: And she's just good. People is sheep, ignored her forever because "gotta play corki/ez/graves all game every game". That combined with all the QoL buffs they did to her in their shadow really helped. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:58 Haasts wrote: Also: pairing her with a Nunu support hushed a bunch of the "she has no proper steroid/lategame" kvetching that you'd occasionally see when she was selected, her insane range, and her strength if you're doing a 2v1 swap to shove down a tower early. Which was hooey anyway, she good escapes and stupid ramnge. Can buy damage, can't buy range. Her late game always good. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:54 Requizen wrote: And she's just good. People is sheep, ignored her forever because "gotta play corki/ez/graves all game every game". She also had some QoL buffs Piltover Peacemaker Damage falloff per subsequent target reduced to 10% from 15% Minimum damage increased to 50% from 40% 90 Caliber Net can no longer be cast while rooted v1.0.0.142 - 2012-07-06 Cast time of 90 Caliber Net has been reduced Ace in the Hole Range increased to 2000/2500/3000 from 1900/2050/2200 Channel time reduced to 1 second from 1.25 seconds | ||
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Scip
Czech Republic11293 Posts
On December 17 2012 10:59 iCanada wrote: Which was hooey anyway, she good escapes and stupid ramnge. Can buy damage, can't buy range. Her late game always good. You could say the same about Corki and Ezreal; you can buy damage, you can't buy jumping over thick walls. Yes, it took SOME time for her to become popular since 1.0.0.146, but insulting people for not instantly jumping the Caitlyn bandwagon (people is sheep) is really overexaggerating what is happening. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
At high levels, it's often a product of much more subtle changes in overall drafting strategy between the top teams. I don't think you could easily attribute it to one single change, rather than an amalgamation of multiple factors, some of which are only tangentially related. | ||
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wussleeQ
United States3130 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On December 17 2012 11:11 wussleeQ wrote: i'm just waiting for twitch to be noticed. he's my favorite ad atm even managed to steal baron with autos over the wall with his ulti lol Vowels carried me with Twitch today. It's happening. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
On December 17 2012 11:06 TheYango wrote: At low levels, picking tendencies can more or less always be explained by "people are sheep" because at low level play nobody understands the game well enough to draft more competently than that. They just pick what they saw on stream/in a tournament. At high levels, it's often a product of much more subtle changes in overall drafting strategy between the top teams. I don't think you could easily attribute it to one single change, rather than an amalgamation of multiple factors, some of which are only tangentially related. Meh, I actually disagree, since its been my opinion for a LONG time that even at high levels people are sheep. You look at nearly every major shift in the meta or the way a champion has been thought of (at least back when I still followed the scene religiously) it was because either a new team came in and shook things up (M5) or a player got pretty famous for playing a certain hero and others copied it (again, pretty much everyone on M5). Then top tier teams build that new knowledge into their expectations, things stagnate again until someone else thinks something up new. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On December 17 2012 11:06 TheYango wrote: At low levels, picking tendencies can more or less always be explained by "people are sheep" because at low level play nobody understands the game well enough to draft more competently than that. They just pick what they saw on stream/in a tournament. At high levels, it's often a product of much more subtle changes in overall drafting strategy between the top teams. I don't think you could easily attribute it to one single change, rather than an amalgamation of multiple factors, some of which are only tangentially related. Cait should have seen a shit ton of play ever since graves was released, but I was surprised no one did so.... Release graves was fucking real terror, and the only AD that could really deal with it easily was Cait; but pretty much no one played her as a counter for some reason.... | ||
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Ryalnos
United States1946 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 17 2012 11:14 Two_DoWn wrote: Meh, I actually disagree, since its been my opinion for a LONG time that even at high levels people are sheep. You look at nearly every major shift in the meta or the way a champion has been thought of (at least back when I still followed the scene religiously) it was because either a new team came in and shook things up (M5) or a player got pretty famous for playing a certain hero and others copied it (again, pretty much everyone on M5). Then top tier teams build that new knowledge into their expectations, things stagnate again until someone else thinks something up new. At the point where teams were sheeping M5, I wouldn't consider a lot of those top NA teams the highest level anymore. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
And here I was saying that resistances are hard to come by... Also built a BC/BT/phage on top of it so my ult was doing 2.3k (after the stacked BT, a bit less than 2000 before I bought any part). In AoE. Oh and anyone caught in its full duration had -25% armor. Which means that the one hit by my Q (30% Armor reduc for 3 seconds) was sitting at around half his armor for a very brief period (around 28% armor for an ally with ArPen mastery + LW). Then you have the ArPen mastery and the 34 ArPen from runes, masteries and BC. (Just for the record, that game we also had Orianna mid, who got a lot of kills and an easier time AoE-farming than me, so kinda early deathcap then void staff. At this point we didn't even bothered to protect Tristana, we just killed everyone but LB (tp-ing away) and Nidalee (diving so not in range).) Wukong doesn't have the best laning phase out there, and in a lot of early and midgame fights I was unable to come help clean-up because the lack of lifesteal hurt when taking most of the peeling in my face, but damn. The new items and especially the HP itemization to go hand-in-hand with his passive make him so stupidly strong in teamfights if he manages to farm, even more than before. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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