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Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 11 2013 23:55 GMT
#7921
On January 12 2013 08:53 sylverfyre wrote:
Wheres katarina in the "always penta never not penta" tier?

She should not be there.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 11 2013 23:59 GMT
#7922
Blitz should be in OP as balls tier, imo.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 12 2013 00:04 GMT
#7923
Udry might not be the worst champ to play in ARAM but he's one of the least fun and that's what ARAMs are really all about haha.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 00:07:11
January 12 2013 00:06 GMT
#7924
Someone's been grabbed by blitz one too many times.


On January 12 2013 09:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
Udry might not be the worst champ to play in ARAM but he's one of the least fun and that's what ARAMs are really all about haha.


Exactly
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
January 12 2013 00:08 GMT
#7925
Udyr is the only champ i would actually consider dodging aram if i got. Most champs you can do something moderately fun with at least. Udyr is just boring no matter waht
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
January 12 2013 00:11 GMT
#7926
You should add volibear to the op list.

1.Get volibear.
2.Buy shiv
3.Turn into zeus
4.!?!??!?!
5.penta
MoonBear
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
January 12 2013 00:11 GMT
#7927
On January 12 2013 09:11 nafta wrote:
You should add volibear to the op list.

1.Get volibear.
2.Buy shiv
3.Turn into zeus
4.!?!??!?!
5.penta

This sounds like a great idea to me.
ModeratorA dream. Do you have one that has cursed you like that? Or maybe... a wish?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
January 12 2013 00:13 GMT
#7928
On January 12 2013 09:08 Badboyrune wrote:
Udyr is the only champ i would actually consider dodging aram if i got. Most champs you can do something moderately fun with at least. Udyr is just boring no matter waht

This is the reason.

It's all about the fun, guise :O
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
January 12 2013 00:19 GMT
#7929
Whenever I play aram with friends and some randy gets Ez, I beg to trade with them. AP maps is the most fun to play in arams.

And of course they decline trade 99% of the time and build him ad. Tryhards.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
January 12 2013 00:33 GMT
#7930
Item rework was a nerf to Voli. Ionic was good, but now to get lighting you need to build Shiv, which kind of sucks on him. But it's required to build lightning, so you need it.
It's your boy Guzma!
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 01:08:08
January 12 2013 00:43 GMT
#7931
On January 12 2013 09:33 Requizen wrote:
Item rework was a nerf to Voli. Ionic was good, but now to get lighting you need to build Shiv, which kind of sucks on him. But it's required to build lightning, so you need it.


New meta:you go sword of the divine+hydra for the auto/q/hydra extra*(you beat my poor English this time Yango)/sotd instant 6 procs op GGWP NO RE!!!!!1
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 12 2013 00:54 GMT
#7932
On January 12 2013 09:43 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 09:33 Requizen wrote:
Item rework was a nerf to Voli. Ionic was good, but now to get lighting you need to build Shiv, which kind of sucks on him. But it's required to build lightning, so you need it.


New meta:you go sword of the divine+hydra for the auto/q/hydra reset/sotd instant 6 procs op GGWP NO RE!!!!!1

Hydra doesn't reset your autoattack animation. It's just a separate cast animation.

Saying Hydra resets your autoattack animation is like saying any spell resets your autoattack timer, when it's just that the autoattack timer and ability animations are unlinked so you can cancel autoattacks into abilities and vice versa.

Any ability that resets your autoattack timer is going to be an autoattack modifier--the only reason they reset the autoattack timer is to mimic this effect despite being linked to the normal autoattack cd.
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TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
January 12 2013 00:56 GMT
#7933
On January 12 2013 08:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
ARAM tier list, made by Dandelimentz(tm):

ALWAYS PENTA NEVER NOT PENTA tier:
Master Yi

OP AS BALLS tier:
Jayce, Nidalee, Soraka, Ziggs, Kha'zix, TF, Lux

relatively OP tier:
Xerath, Anivia, Janna, Sona, Mundo, Caitlyn, Ezreal, MF, Amumu, Nami

Viable tier:
Everything else

Dodge tier:
Udyr

yup, only time I played Udyr in ARAM (he was on free week) I went 0/16/2 or something similar.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
January 12 2013 00:57 GMT
#7934
You forgot Heimer.
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Lylat
Profile Joined August 2009
France8575 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 01:15:18
January 12 2013 01:15 GMT
#7935
e : damn wrong thread
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 12 2013 01:34 GMT
#7936
On January 12 2013 09:54 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 12 2013 09:43 nafta wrote:
On January 12 2013 09:33 Requizen wrote:
Item rework was a nerf to Voli. Ionic was good, but now to get lighting you need to build Shiv, which kind of sucks on him. But it's required to build lightning, so you need it.


New meta:you go sword of the divine+hydra for the auto/q/hydra reset/sotd instant 6 procs op GGWP NO RE!!!!!1

Hydra doesn't reset your autoattack animation. It's just a separate cast animation.

Saying Hydra resets your autoattack animation is like saying any spell resets your autoattack timer, when it's just that the autoattack timer and ability animations are unlinked so you can cancel autoattacks into abilities and vice versa.

Any ability that resets your autoattack timer is going to be an autoattack modifier--the only reason they reset the autoattack timer is to mimic this effect despite being linked to the normal autoattack cd.


I don't even think Hydra activate even effects your auto attack at all like Amumu E, where you have to time your spell usage to not interfere with your AA, isn't it more like Hecarim Q?

Could be wrong only bought Hydra twice all season, don't play champs that could use it that often.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 01:50:12
January 12 2013 01:48 GMT
#7937
About the assassin "meta" discussion of earlier, from s3 qualifs:
+ Show Spoiler +
1-Trick Ponies with a triple assassin comp, Zed/Eve/LB + Cait and Lulu to protect her, against Malphite+Sona+Kog+Nunu+Kha'Zix for MP.
MP destroys (as in "ace with ease and style") 1-TP when Malph's ult catches several of them, combined with Kha'Zix's burst and Sona's ult to keep the survivors cc'd.

Who was sceptic about my "assassinate the assassins" proposal?
Note that it doesn't rely on assassins (Kha being Kha, still) as much as AoE cc and good base damage from non-assassin champs that can provide other types of utility (Malph built Sunfire+tabi+chalice+mail/belt for randuin's.
Champions like Zyra, Amumu, Cho'Gath, etc. ie good base damage allowing for a midgame power spike can be used too for such a composition, that would allow your power spike to fight the assassin's, while building tanky/utility on those champs for a possible transition to the late game should the tactic fail.

Obviously, we have to keep in mind that Kha'Zix is currently stupidly broken and that there are other ways to have "tanky assassins" (BT-warmogs works, probably much better than it should, on Kha'Zix and Zed, the latter could have built that and made the burst moot).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 12 2013 01:54 GMT
#7938
ipl6 tournament structure revealed

I am not excited
http://www.ign.com/ipl/all/news/ipl6-league-of-legends
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14161 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-12 02:06:01
January 12 2013 02:04 GMT
#7939
Fresh ideas will be brought forth to help you decide which teams you think are going to take down their opponents’ nexus and inspire millions of League of Legends fans around the world.

Who would write this shit? They didn't even say what the international teams would be doing at the event just werid pr stuff that makes no sense.

On January 12 2013 10:48 Alaric wrote:
About the assassin "meta" discussion of earlier, from s3 qualifs:
+ Show Spoiler +
1-Trick Ponies with a triple assassin comp, Zed/Eve/LB + Cait and Lulu to protect her, against Malphite+Sona+Kog+Nunu+Kha'Zix for MP.
MP destroys (as in "ace with ease and style") 1-TP when Malph's ult catches several of them, combined with Kha'Zix's burst and Sona's ult to keep the survivors cc'd.

Who was sceptic about my "assassinate the assassins" proposal?
Note that it doesn't rely on assassins (Kha being Kha, still) as much as AoE cc and good base damage from non-assassin champs that can provide other types of utility (Malph built Sunfire+tabi+chalice+mail/belt for randuin's.
Champions like Zyra, Amumu, Cho'Gath, etc. ie good base damage allowing for a midgame power spike can be used too for such a composition, that would allow your power spike to fight the assassin's, while building tanky/utility on those champs for a possible transition to the late game should the tactic fail.

Obviously, we have to keep in mind that Kha'Zix is currently stupidly broken and that there are other ways to have "tanky assassins" (BT-warmogs works, probably much better than it should, on Kha'Zix and Zed, the latter could have built that and made the burst moot).

That sounds more like an aoe initiate comp is what caused what your saying.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
NEOtheONE
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2233 Posts
January 12 2013 02:08 GMT
#7940
This AD mid thing annoys me. I hope Riot does something about it before AP champs become a rarity.
Abstracts, the too long didn't read of the educated world.
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