EPTthe isolated portion of q is a noob trap that hit 90% of the player pop for the first 2 months after he came out.
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
the isolated portion of q is a noob trap that hit 90% of the player pop for the first 2 months after he came out. | ||
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Sermokala
United States14081 Posts
On January 04 2013 14:54 koreasilver wrote: I was very forcefully arguing that W evolution was the best evolution since Khazix was in PBE. People are just retarded because they don't actually read the ability details. To be fair we're american we can't read that well. Also when has it ever not been okay to bash comentary in the lol community? everyone knows the standard is laughably low for them. if anything Shikyo you should be allowed to qq about things. | ||
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samthesaluki
914 Posts
 ill give my advice on him later (just fyi i always evolved w cause an extra burst of his ult seemed pointless to me even when people said the maths was real good) | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI? Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more. Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows. | ||
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Louuster
Canada2869 Posts
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve  . | ||
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Chrispy
Canada5878 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote: Ok, wtf HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI? Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more. Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows. Pretty sure AP Yi just doesn't lose lanes. Best you can do is not feed him. | ||
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jaybrundage
United States3921 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote: Ok, wtf HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI? Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more. Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows. I just laned against an ap yi two games ago i was eve. Panth gave me an early level 2 gank and we got a kill. Then yi was in our jungle stealing wraiths. I pinged to jungler and got a second kill on him. I rushed morellas and roamed and we won easily :o | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:12 Louuster wrote: CRS streaming that series vs FXO to see Navi in action! Link? Don't see any crs streams. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
http://www.own3d.tv/#/live/407003 | ||
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Navi
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:12 Diamond wrote: I officially don't get Rengar. Played my first game with him (jungle), died at golems, and never accomplished basically anything. Ended the game 0/12/12...... I had an easier time jungling Ezreal the first time, wtf? T_T I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve .They nerfed him pretty hard, he's kind of in a bad spot right now. There was a Riot quote that they were going to have to break him down before building him up again. There are much better picks at the moment. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote: Ok, wtf HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI? Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more. Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows. If you dont have a way to interrupt meditate you probably can't beat AP yi. Even if you can, AP Yi's hard to beat in lane, but he's very reliant on being able to get resets to be relevant in teamfights. | ||
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GhandiEAGLE
United States20754 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:03 samthesaluki wrote: i play khazix like 2 pentakills in 10 games ill give my advice on him later (just fyi i always evolved w cause an extra burst of his ult seemed pointless to me even when people said the maths was real good)Pretty sure his W evolve is his one great truth. Its the hardcore standard. Almost every KZ I see grabs it first, then e, then ult | ||
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Diamond
United States10796 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:18 onlywonderboy wrote: They nerfed him pretty hard, he's kind of in a bad spot right now. There was a Riot quote that they were going to have to break him down before building him up again. There are much better picks at the moment. Yea just trying to expand my champ pool, he seems like total shit atm but maybe I'm doing something wrong. See OddOne jungle him pretty well, just nothing like what I did. Idk, been having a bad week of games so maybe it's just a symptom of that. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On January 04 2013 15:21 Diamond wrote: Yea just trying to expand my champ pool, he seems like total shit atm but maybe I'm doing something wrong. See OddOne jungle him pretty well, just nothing like what I did. Idk, been having a bad week of games so maybe it's just a symptom of that. Fair enough, expanding your champ pool is a respectable task. Don't know who your current pool consists of but there are plenty of other options. I know he's not trash but learning him in his current state certainly isn't easy. Sorry, don't have much in the way of advice lol. I played some Rengar top but don't have jungle advice. | ||
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koreasilver
9109 Posts
On January 04 2013 14:57 Alaric wrote: To be fair, the ability description didn't really say how awesome the new hitbox is once upgraded. The upgrade gives you a ranged aoe that applies your passive. It really shouldn't have taken everyone so long to realize just how bonkers that is. People are just stupid. Like there was this one guy somewhere on here that was trying to say that he didn't like W evolve because "it doesn't do what Khaz is supposed to do". Like what can you even say to that? "Okay, well that's great, but that doesn't change that it's still the best fucking evolution". | ||
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VayneAuthority
United States8983 Posts
I mean ad is the least brain oriented role, but still. you at least want to build properly... | ||
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