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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:01:16
January 04 2013 06:00 GMT
#5481
the isolated damage on q is just so tempting but the reality is it's so hard to realize compared to ranged unseen threat, which is basically guaranteed because of the hitbox.

the isolated portion of q is a noob trap that hit 90% of the player pop for the first 2 months after he came out.
Carrilord has arrived.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14149 Posts
January 04 2013 06:02 GMT
#5482
On January 04 2013 14:54 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 14:51 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 14:44 Sermokala wrote:
Muramana looks really good but then you realize that it doesn't give you any damage for a long long time and then you're not procing it very much.

anyone try out sotd muramana?

Also Jarvan/nami bot lane I'm telling you. rock and roll baby.
On January 04 2013 14:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 14:38 Slusher wrote:
q first starts is exactly why it took so long for Kaz'Zix to be discovered, w first is like a different champion.

I remember when he was first released and everyone talked about how his W evolution was trash and it was the one everyone skipped. I think everyone really underestimated the ability to apply his passive from range.

More-so the Aoe slow that proccing your passive from said range gives you. I still think that the 3 missiles instead of 1 is a stupid idea for an upgrade and doesn't make a difference in 99% of its use's.

Exactly, everyone saw the three missiles and though "that's not that great" but undervalued the ability to apply his passive slow and extra damage in a large ranged AOE

I was very forcefully arguing that W evolution was the best evolution since Khazix was in PBE. People are just retarded because they don't actually read the ability details.


To be fair we're american we can't read that well.

Also when has it ever not been okay to bash comentary in the lol community? everyone knows the standard is laughably low for them. if anything Shikyo you should be allowed to qq about things.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
January 04 2013 06:03 GMT
#5483
i play khazix like 2 pentakills in 10 games ill give my advice on him later (just fyi i always evolved w cause an extra burst of his ult seemed pointless to me even when people said the maths was real good)
sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:10:41
January 04 2013 06:09 GMT
#5484
Ok, wtf

HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI?

Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more.

Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
January 04 2013 06:12 GMT
#5485
CRS streaming that series vs FXO to see Navi in action!
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:13:48
January 04 2013 06:12 GMT
#5486
I officially don't get Rengar. Played my first game with him (jungle), died at golems, and never accomplished basically anything. Ended the game 0/12/12...... I had an easier time jungling Ezreal the first time, wtf? T_T

I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve .
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
January 04 2013 06:14 GMT
#5487
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote:
Ok, wtf

HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI?

Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more.

Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows.


Pretty sure AP Yi just doesn't lose lanes. Best you can do is not feed him.

Retvrn to Forvms
jaybrundage
Profile Joined December 2009
United States3921 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:15:04
January 04 2013 06:14 GMT
#5488
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote:
Ok, wtf

HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI?

Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more.

Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows.

I just laned against an ap yi two games ago i was eve. Panth gave me an early level 2 gank and we got a kill. Then yi was in our jungle stealing wraiths. I pinged to jungler and got a second kill on him. I rushed morellas and roamed and we won easily :o
The more you sweat in training, the less you bleed in battle.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
January 04 2013 06:15 GMT
#5489
On January 04 2013 15:12 Louuster wrote:
CRS streaming that series vs FXO to see Navi in action!

Link? Don't see any crs streams.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:16:15
January 04 2013 06:16 GMT
#5490
voyboy 1st person akali yessssssssss

http://www.own3d.tv/#/live/407003
Carrilord has arrived.
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
January 04 2013 06:16 GMT
#5491
im feed king. i think elementz is streaming. g2
Hey! Listen!
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 04 2013 06:16 GMT
#5492
This has to be the best game ever.
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 04 2013 06:18 GMT
#5493
On January 04 2013 15:12 Diamond wrote:
I officially don't get Rengar. Played my first game with him (jungle), died at golems, and never accomplished basically anything. Ended the game 0/12/12...... I had an easier time jungling Ezreal the first time, wtf? T_T

I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve .

They nerfed him pretty hard, he's kind of in a bad spot right now. There was a Riot quote that they were going to have to break him down before building him up again. There are much better picks at the moment.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
January 04 2013 06:18 GMT
#5494
On January 04 2013 15:09 sob3k wrote:
Ok, wtf

HOW DO I LANE VS AP YI?

Like, I have no idea what to do. There is no way I can get him out of lane because of meditate, if I just sit and farm then he roams and gets kills and the jungler covers his tower before I can push it down and lategame he probably does more teamfight damage than I do anyway. If I try to set myself up to farm I also have to get a ton of sustain stuff because he is going to be hitting me with alphas and eventually force me out otherwise, and this gimps my damage even more.

Is there any way to win this lane without serious jungle help? I'm playing ziggs right now but I can't seem to win with anyone, maybe I get a kill on him early because he's bad but after that he's immovable. With ziggs if I try to push down his tower I get ganked and cant get out because escape is crap and he ignores slows.

If you dont have a way to interrupt meditate you probably can't beat AP yi. Even if you can, AP Yi's hard to beat in lane, but he's very reliant on being able to get resets to be relevant in teamfights.
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
January 04 2013 06:18 GMT
#5495
On January 04 2013 15:03 samthesaluki wrote:
i play khazix like 2 pentakills in 10 games ill give my advice on him later (just fyi i always evolved w cause an extra burst of his ult seemed pointless to me even when people said the maths was real good)

Pretty sure his W evolve is his one great truth. Its the hardcore standard. Almost every KZ I see grabs it first, then e, then ult
Oh, my achin' hands, from rakin' in grands, and breakin' in mic stands
Diamond
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States10796 Posts
January 04 2013 06:21 GMT
#5496
On January 04 2013 15:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 15:12 Diamond wrote:
I officially don't get Rengar. Played my first game with him (jungle), died at golems, and never accomplished basically anything. Ended the game 0/12/12...... I had an easier time jungling Ezreal the first time, wtf? T_T

I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve .

They nerfed him pretty hard, he's kind of in a bad spot right now. There was a Riot quote that they were going to have to break him down before building him up again. There are much better picks at the moment.


Yea just trying to expand my champ pool, he seems like total shit atm but maybe I'm doing something wrong. See OddOne jungle him pretty well, just nothing like what I did. Idk, been having a bad week of games so maybe it's just a symptom of that.
Ballistix Gaming Global Gaming/Esports Marketing Manager - twitter.com/esvdiamond
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 04 2013 06:22 GMT
#5497
Pony so strong
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 04 2013 06:31 GMT
#5498
On January 04 2013 15:21 Diamond wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 15:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 15:12 Diamond wrote:
I officially don't get Rengar. Played my first game with him (jungle), died at golems, and never accomplished basically anything. Ended the game 0/12/12...... I had an easier time jungling Ezreal the first time, wtf? T_T

I think I just need a coach or something, never had a competitive game I had no exp in like this, I am sooooo far behind the curve .

They nerfed him pretty hard, he's kind of in a bad spot right now. There was a Riot quote that they were going to have to break him down before building him up again. There are much better picks at the moment.


Yea just trying to expand my champ pool, he seems like total shit atm but maybe I'm doing something wrong. See OddOne jungle him pretty well, just nothing like what I did. Idk, been having a bad week of games so maybe it's just a symptom of that.

Fair enough, expanding your champ pool is a respectable task. Don't know who your current pool consists of but there are plenty of other options. I know he's not trash but learning him in his current state certainly isn't easy. Sorry, don't have much in the way of advice lol. I played some Rengar top but don't have jungle advice.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 04 2013 06:32 GMT
#5499
On January 04 2013 14:57 Alaric wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 14:54 koreasilver wrote:
On January 04 2013 14:51 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 14:44 Sermokala wrote:
Muramana looks really good but then you realize that it doesn't give you any damage for a long long time and then you're not procing it very much.

anyone try out sotd muramana?

Also Jarvan/nami bot lane I'm telling you. rock and roll baby.
On January 04 2013 14:42 onlywonderboy wrote:
On January 04 2013 14:38 Slusher wrote:
q first starts is exactly why it took so long for Kaz'Zix to be discovered, w first is like a different champion.

I remember when he was first released and everyone talked about how his W evolution was trash and it was the one everyone skipped. I think everyone really underestimated the ability to apply his passive from range.

More-so the Aoe slow that proccing your passive from said range gives you. I still think that the 3 missiles instead of 1 is a stupid idea for an upgrade and doesn't make a difference in 99% of its use's.

Exactly, everyone saw the three missiles and though "that's not that great" but undervalued the ability to apply his passive slow and extra damage in a large ranged AOE

I was very forcefully arguing that W evolution was the best evolution since Khazix was in PBE. People are just retarded because they don't actually read the ability details.

To be fair, the ability description didn't really say how awesome the new hitbox is once upgraded.

The upgrade gives you a ranged aoe that applies your passive. It really shouldn't have taken everyone so long to realize just how bonkers that is. People are just stupid. Like there was this one guy somewhere on here that was trying to say that he didn't like W evolve because "it doesn't do what Khaz is supposed to do". Like what can you even say to that? "Okay, well that's great, but that doesn't change that it's still the best fucking evolution".
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 06:34:38
January 04 2013 06:34 GMT
#5500
JRT still building phage on ezrael, is he one of those guys that doesn't update with the meta? not good for FXO.

I mean ad is the least brain oriented role, but still. you at least want to build properly...
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