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Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
January 04 2013 04:55 GMT
#5441
On January 04 2013 13:52 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:50 LaNague wrote:
how does nidalee work wtf.

hoitshot 1 shotting everyone with his tank items.

you dont do anything past 10 minutes into the game cuz shes a worthless hero


THANK YOU
:3
Eppa!
Profile Joined November 2010
Sweden4641 Posts
January 04 2013 04:55 GMT
#5442
On January 04 2013 13:32 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
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On January 04 2013 13:17 Eppa! wrote:
Ok guys this is the numba wan strat i have been working on (purple side only) They should preferably have Mumu or something equally weak jungler:
Get shaco or preferably Lee. Pick a "gay" level 1 bot lane (Nunu+Cait/Twitch+Lulu/Graves+Janna) basically a lane that can force a shove from your side; the jungler goes down to their tribush bot.
If you can get a kill go for it, if you can't get a gank and they have not warded you invade with lee and bot lane+/mid if needed. Now this is the key idea behind this strat you invade and they have a ward you want to pull their bot lane away´from the lane so your bot can get a 4-5 creeps xp lead so you snowball the lane hard.

Lee Sin get out because you had a ward with shaco Q is the only thing needed.


I call it XXXNarutoJungleGankStrattttttttttz


MVP did this vs Sword kinda, took Ziggs mid with Clarity to keep lane shoved to turret and counterjungled Amumu at red with Lee+Darius, they still died in teamfights though lol

Lee Sin as purple counterjungling enemy at red is easy bro, don't need a ward just manage cooldowns carefully and Q to dragon to escape

The point of the strat is to snowball bot not to counterjungle.
"Can't wait till Monday" Cixah+Waveofshadow. "Needs to be monday. Weekend please go by quickly." Gahlo
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 04:56 GMT
#5443
That nidalee tanking more turret shot than singed >.> I've got to try that nidalee build.
liftlift > tsm
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17281 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 04:56:59
January 04 2013 04:56 GMT
#5444
On January 04 2013 13:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:39 Craton wrote:
You guys really have no idea what hard counter means.


There's no such thing as a hard counter in LoL because it's a 5v5 game.

There are hard counters in lane where the matchup is just so one-sided that even with 24/7 babysitting you still lose the lane (and get farmed for kills without the 24/7 help), but thinking things like Maokai "hard counters" Amumu in a team fight because he can slightly reduce incoming damage is just so outlandish that you have to wonder how all the logical gaps were ignored.
twitch.tv/cratonz
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
January 04 2013 04:56 GMT
#5445
GG hotshot carrying this game soloqueue style.
Best Teemo World
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
January 04 2013 04:57 GMT
#5446
Hotshot doing SO much work. Put clg on yo back!
Veni, vidi, vici!
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 04 2013 04:57 GMT
#5447
HSGG is playing so good this game. This is why DLIFT looks really good sometimes, because they send like 3 to defend this nonsense.
Freeeeeeedom
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
January 04 2013 04:58 GMT
#5448
On January 04 2013 13:56 Craton wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:39 Craton wrote:
You guys really have no idea what hard counter means.


There's no such thing as a hard counter in LoL because it's a 5v5 game.

There are hard counters in lane where the matchup is just so one-sided that even with 24/7 babysitting you still lose the lane (and get farmed for kills without the 24/7 help), but thinking things like Maokai "hard counters" Amumu in a team fight because he can slightly reduce incoming damage is just so outlandish that you have to wonder how all the logical gaps were ignored.


Then please oh great overlord provide us with your insight into the matter and show us how stupid we are.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
January 04 2013 05:01 GMT
#5449
On January 04 2013 13:57 cLutZ wrote:
HSGG is playing so good this game. This is why DLIFT looks really good sometimes, because they send like 3 to defend this nonsense.

Hsgg rarely plays this good. It's more a reason why you don't let Hsgg play nid.
liftlift > tsm
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
January 04 2013 05:01 GMT
#5450
Holy shit that Caitlyn damage. Killing people straight up on fountain.
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
January 04 2013 05:02 GMT
#5451
the khazix did nothing for the team for the entire game other than feeding 0-5 to HSGG nidalee lol
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
January 04 2013 05:02 GMT
#5452
On January 04 2013 13:55 Eiii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:52 arb wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:50 LaNague wrote:
how does nidalee work wtf.

hoitshot 1 shotting everyone with his tank items.

you dont do anything past 10 minutes into the game cuz shes a worthless hero


THANK YOU

I'm glad someone shares my hate of Nidalee
-_-
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
January 04 2013 05:05 GMT
#5453
On January 04 2013 13:58 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:56 Craton wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:39 Craton wrote:
You guys really have no idea what hard counter means.


There's no such thing as a hard counter in LoL because it's a 5v5 game.

There are hard counters in lane where the matchup is just so one-sided that even with 24/7 babysitting you still lose the lane (and get farmed for kills without the 24/7 help), but thinking things like Maokai "hard counters" Amumu in a team fight because he can slightly reduce incoming damage is just so outlandish that you have to wonder how all the logical gaps were ignored.


Then please oh great overlord provide us with your insight into the matter and show us how stupid we are.

Lol he just did, he gave his reasoning for why he doesn't think Mao "hard-counters" Amumu, that was the point of this discussion.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
nojitosunrise
Profile Joined August 2011
United States6188 Posts
January 04 2013 05:06 GMT
#5454
official ruling on the ghosting incident
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?p=33131171#post33131171
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 05:08:54
January 04 2013 05:07 GMT
#5455
ive never looked some one up on lolking that had like below 60% winrate with nid. shes pretty clearly strong right now with any build. her AP wrecks, her bruiser wrecks, doesnt even fucking matter. Anyone that can lane against elise top is a good champion and nid is one.

and Maokai isnt a "hard counter" but he is definitely a good pick against amumu. He counterganks amumu very well, he puts pressure before amumu can even dream of it, and pretty much "beats" amumu at every stage of the game.
I come in for the scraps
sylverfyre
Profile Joined May 2010
United States8298 Posts
January 04 2013 05:09 GMT
#5456
Man, can't help but notice some irrational kitty hatred. yyyyyyy

HSGG balls of steel. Only damage item is the upgrade to sheen. Murder the shit out of Khazix or whoever else showed up to deal with him - literally nobody on TD could stop him, and it's nidalee - gl collapsing - he escaped running right through 4 of them at one point and still had >50% HP because there isn't much in the way of non-skillshot lockdown CC on that TD composition.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-01-04 05:11:10
January 04 2013 05:10 GMT
#5457
How the fuck does Maokai "hardcounter" Amumu in teamfights?
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
January 04 2013 05:12 GMT
#5458
On January 04 2013 14:05 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:58 Zooper31 wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:56 Craton wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On January 04 2013 13:39 Craton wrote:
You guys really have no idea what hard counter means.


There's no such thing as a hard counter in LoL because it's a 5v5 game.

There are hard counters in lane where the matchup is just so one-sided that even with 24/7 babysitting you still lose the lane (and get farmed for kills without the 24/7 help), but thinking things like Maokai "hard counters" Amumu in a team fight because he can slightly reduce incoming damage is just so outlandish that you have to wonder how all the logical gaps were ignored.


Then please oh great overlord provide us with your insight into the matter and show us how stupid we are.

Lol he just did, he gave his reasoning for why he doesn't think Mao "hard-counters" Amumu, that was the point of this discussion.

And he's right, outside of early ganks, amumu shits on maokai. Once you reach lvl 6 amumu shouldn't ever die to maokai in a 1v1 and in any team fight will provide far more utility and damage.
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
January 04 2013 05:13 GMT
#5459
On January 04 2013 14:01 wei2coolman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 04 2013 13:57 cLutZ wrote:
HSGG is playing so good this game. This is why DLIFT looks really good sometimes, because they send like 3 to defend this nonsense.

Hsgg rarely plays this good. It's more a reason why you don't let Hsgg play nid.


True, but CLG is always creating space for him somehow. That is what I meant.
Freeeeeeedom
LazyFailKid
Profile Joined September 2011
Canada750 Posts
January 04 2013 05:14 GMT
#5460
What do you guys think of renekton+nami bot lane? Me and a friend theorycrafted for abit (would try it but I don't have renek yet) and it seems like any time the opponent goes for a creep renek just jumps in and uses Q auto W then jumps out for a massive nuke if nami puts her on-hit bonus on him. Ebb and flow heals and provides a short speed boost to minimize the harass renek takes when he goes for a creep. If you want to kill someone just do the combo but make sure W is enraged and just follow renek's stun (1.75 seconds) with nami's (1.25 seconds) and save her on-hit slow for when the target comes down and tries to run. Only weakness I see is a lane that can easily freeze the wave in front of their tower with a strong jungler and stop you from farming or graves just killing you with his Q if you don't stun before he does it.
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