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I don’t know if ggod is still browsing the thread for goat zoo feedback but I just wanted to provide some feedback surrounding the two most talked about games in this thread
a) the game vs. team M A R N
b) the game vs. FXO
although I feel like because the games are broadcast from Plords pov a lot of what has been said has been about plord but it’s all been very general so yes (I’m going to go in on Phantom big surprise) but there were specifics I feel like haven’t been gone into which really bother me. Mainly I’ve been on teams where there a guy, who is valuable to the team for one reason or another can be skill can be connections, can be anything, that nobody is allowed to talk about. I felt this was so glaring in the game vs. Marn that it gave me flashbacks to having people like this on teams I had been on.

It’s really hard to examine what went wrong or what could have gone better in a game when you are being forced to ignore an entire character, the story of the Marncatz game as portrayed on stream was that the sidelanes adapted to a lane swap really well, but then failed to transition that advantage into the later game, a lot of it getting pinned on even as you said on this forum, your positioning. I don’t think it can be ignored, but at the same time when Nancy mentions how big Ahri was and Jax and Phantom shut him down instantly and tell him it’s ONLY Vayne, it makes pisses me off.

I’ve been in that situation where your team knows they have a hothead and they just try to examine and strategize as though he played well every game, and I feel it isn’t only counter-productive but it creates cliques, wouldn’t surprise me if Nancy and vfx for instance have an msn chat off to the side where they are talking about how phantom played last game, and I’m not trying to say they are bad people for it, it just happens in these settings.

So if I was to examine Phantom as a teammate and be constructive I would say it might be time for Phantom to stop playing Karthus I still think he hits predictive qs better than almost anyone I’ve been able to watch PoV of but I just don’t think Karth fits his playstyle at all anymore and this is where the two aforementioned games come into play. First while playing Ahri vs. Navi’s Ori he lements the fact that Navi isn’t interested in skirmishing (which to Navi’s credit isn’t the way to play the match up from his side) so instead he goes and succeeds in making plays in his side lanes. Now in this game Navi just farms like a beast and makes lategame plays while goat zoo didn’t really convert Phantoms early plays into a big enough advantage.

Now we skip to the game vs marn in which Phantom is playing basically the same matchup (strategy wise) but from the opposite side and he opens boots 3 while making a comment about hating people who afk farm mid lane. Well here in lies the problem (and where people may disagree with me) Karthus has been nerfed repeatedly by Riot, but in the spirit of not ruining the theme of the champion I like how riot has let him keep his late game, in return for getting afk farm at best in lane (the last nerf to wall being the nail in the coffin) Karthus makes up for this with global pressure thru his ult, which Phantom all but gives up by not opening RoA, he is literally dealing base damage ults with no spellpen usually into lvl 2 ult because of his build path and even then he goes revolver first ap item i.e. extremely low damage.

And even with this build he’s running aggressive summoners (revive teleport albeit cheese is a playmaking summoner set which has no synergy with his build path). Looking at the Marn game one more time, only this time pretending Phantom afk farms mid vs Ahri and goes RoA there is no way you can walk through a Karthus with damage and get to a Cait with 2v1 farm and live to tell about it, all he had to do was farm and it would have made your job 100x easier. And if that’s not how he wants to play that’s fine too, but then maybe he should play his Ziggs more, maybe go with a top 3 of ZIggs, Ahri and some other assassin, fuck man, I know he wants to be hipster about his champions but Eve is like made for him, a playmaker, who can roam thru wards, who does really good damage without having to farm 100+ minions first.

Anyway he’s been picked on enough I hope this came across as more constructive than just being a dick.

sorry for wall to everyone who isn't ggod