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BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
December 21 2012 09:24 GMT
#2141
wtf lol
When what huh.
Did you even ever change your name from SG lol.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 09:30:23
December 21 2012 09:27 GMT
#2142
my acct got hacked when i was SG guitarasaurus. i lost all friends, ranked teams, etc
shortly after that time i took the chance to move my name to "i am guitar" with all my SG teammates (who changed to SG Dazzleking -> "i am Anjo", SG InnocentKing -> "i am Shihao", kwr -> "i am kwr" etc).
that was like in july

noobpaladin

so yeah if you had "SG guitarasaurus" on your f/l and wonder why we don't talk any more, add me again on "i am guitar" and let me know you're a TLer
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 09:33:19
December 21 2012 09:32 GMT
#2143
Wow, how low in life do you need to be to waste your time hacking gtrsrs lololol.

I'll add you tomorrow maybe. You know who I am noobsrs.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 21 2012 09:39 GMT
#2144
those young hackers probably wanted dat double diamond, single silver IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
samthesaluki
Profile Joined November 2010
914 Posts
December 21 2012 10:59 GMT
#2145
the dirtnap guys are cool used to play with dirtnap on there fun nights
TSBspartacus
Profile Joined October 2011
England1046 Posts
December 21 2012 11:49 GMT
#2146
On December 20 2012 10:02 Alaric wrote:
It's known, Ryze's a beast.

Jungled Vi, managed to do it with 0-9-21 masteries and a flask+machete start, even though I had to back after level 4 (road to double buff + wraiths, no gols).
ohmygodohmygodohmygodshe'sSOOOOOOOOOfun
I can jump everywheeeeeeeeeeeeeerre! Went QWEQ R>Q>W>E because I'm dumb and didn't get W at level 1, the clear speed is 0K, and having a low cooldown on Q changes stuff so much. Even if Q was her worst ability you'd still have to max it first just because of the cooldown reduction, having 2-3 Qs per fight (had an Elise mid who didn't want the blue buffs and 6% cdr from masteries, bought locket later, had a cd around 6-7s) helps you so much, repositioning, reaching the other side of the fight once your target is down, interrupting (Katarina in the enemy team)... and it's a pretty fun dash skill (Sej's can be kinda frustrating I personnally feel because of its slow traveling speed notably).

W isn't always obvious to see when it procs (even when jungling, the sound effect is pretty quiet), but as long as you do your stuff calmly, you'll have it up for the most part of the fights, which helps regarding AS.
E is really fun with the "pass-through" damage, I picked up several kills during ganks and fights by repositioning and using it on another target (often a minion) to get the AoE damage on the runner.

I built wriggles+bulwark because I was kinda fed (loads of assists) (swifties because mercs aren't worth it against Nautilus + another Vi + Ashe), but even then I felt rather squishy, even at 176 armor and 2300 HP after locket. The fact that they had 2 BCs on their team probably played a role... my damage dropped a lot against anything non-squishy (when doing nashor and dragon I felt that my damage output was pretty nigh) from the lack of damage items, but on the other hand Bulwark is like the trademark of defensive items now, so I'm not sure what to build instead to retain some tankiness while having damage. Randuin's probably a great pick on her, since she has gap-closers but few ways of sticking once Q is on cooldown, and her ult really puts her in the thick of things.

I'm pretty behind on this but I love Vi too, she's so fun!

I think frozen mallet is an absolute must simply to stick to targets longs enough to proc her W. Also the damage and hp are great.
Ryuu314
Profile Joined October 2009
United States12679 Posts
December 21 2012 12:03 GMT
#2147
I think if you're laning Vi, Q should probably just be a 1 point wonder, while you max E then W. The hitbox on Q is kinda small and the charge time is really bleh. Max E lets you harass your opponents really darn easily and W makes it impossible to trade with you.
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
December 21 2012 12:54 GMT
#2148
On December 21 2012 21:03 Ryuu314 wrote:
I think if you're laning Vi, Q should probably just be a 1 point wonder, while you max E then W. The hitbox on Q is kinda small and the charge time is really bleh. Max E lets you harass your opponents really darn easily and W makes it impossible to trade with you.


I really like the design of Vi because her kit is designed in a way so that statements like this are only true in a set of circumstances/matchups. against ranged champions you generally want to dash around alot more than against melees. E/W max probably depends on the length of the trades/engagements.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
December 21 2012 13:25 GMT
#2149
On December 21 2012 18:27 gtrsrs wrote:
my acct got hacked when i was SG guitarasaurus. i lost all friends, ranked teams, etc
shortly after that time i took the chance to move my name to "i am guitar" with all my SG teammates (who changed to SG Dazzleking -> "i am Anjo", SG InnocentKing -> "i am Shihao", kwr -> "i am kwr" etc).
that was like in july

noobpaladin

so yeah if you had "SG guitarasaurus" on your f/l and wonder why we don't talk any more, add me again on "i am guitar" and let me know you're a TLer

You have a GF, why are you getting keyloggers googling porn?
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 13:32:50
December 21 2012 13:26 GMT
#2150
I'm getting tired with all these nerf / up. I never bought rengar, but what they did to that champ is just ridiculous Why even getting a PBE if you can't understand that the nerf you made are bad ? The constant up and down that new champ are getting everytime shows that either Riot is inexperienced and rush things up or that they do that to make sure people actually buy those characters.

Also that Riven nerf, wtf.

Also some champ will never be balanced for solo q. Support at 1500 elo will never buy pink for evelynn, team will never split before amumu, no solo q team will ever know how to play vs karthus (I have a ridic 100% win rate on Karthus despite being really bad, I always lose my lane stupidly, sometime even feeding, but still focus on farming, then win later on when the whole team feel like doing their business in my defile).
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
December 21 2012 13:39 GMT
#2151
On December 21 2012 22:26 WhiteDog wrote:
I'm getting tired with all these nerf / up. I never bought rengar, but what they did to that champ is just ridiculous Why even getting a PBE if you can't understand that the nerf you made are bad ? The constant up and down that new champ are getting everytime shows that either Riot is inexperienced and rush things up or that they do that to make sure people actually buy those characters.

Also that Riven nerf, wtf.

Also some champ will never be balanced for solo q. Support at 1500 elo will never buy pink for evelynn, team will never split before amumu, no solo q team will ever know how to play vs karthus (I have a ridic 100% win rate on Karthus despite being really bad, I always lose my lane stupidly, sometime even feeding, but still focus on farming, then win later on when the whole team feel like doing their business in my defile).

Her ult cd was dumb at early levels. I'd kill people at 6 and they either had to build enough armor to not die again or they have 1, maybe 2 waves before I sent them back to the fountain
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 14:15:24
December 21 2012 13:41 GMT
#2152
fuck this in my last (15!) Solo Queue games I always had purple side wtf! purple side sucks

edit: forgot the number of games lol
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-21 13:57:57
December 21 2012 13:57 GMT
#2153
On December 21 2012 22:39 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 21 2012 22:26 WhiteDog wrote:
I'm getting tired with all these nerf / up. I never bought rengar, but what they did to that champ is just ridiculous Why even getting a PBE if you can't understand that the nerf you made are bad ? The constant up and down that new champ are getting everytime shows that either Riot is inexperienced and rush things up or that they do that to make sure people actually buy those characters.

Also that Riven nerf, wtf.

Also some champ will never be balanced for solo q. Support at 1500 elo will never buy pink for evelynn, team will never split before amumu, no solo q team will ever know how to play vs karthus (I have a ridic 100% win rate on Karthus despite being really bad, I always lose my lane stupidly, sometime even feeding, but still focus on farming, then win later on when the whole team feel like doing their business in my defile).

Her ult cd was dumb at early levels. I'd kill people at 6 and they either had to build enough armor to not die again or they have 1, maybe 2 waves before I sent them back to the fountain

You mean Riven ? The huge nerf is the nerf on her health regen, cut in half, it's silly. I've never thought her sustain was a problem. It's true that her ult cd was too low thought.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Zhiroo
Profile Joined February 2011
Kosovo2724 Posts
December 21 2012 14:10 GMT
#2154
I find myself buying pink wards way more often nowadays after I get my Ruby Sightstone, I usually get two. Especially if there's an Evelynn in game. Also Cait/Nami lane pretty fun.
LoL EuW: Zhiroo - By starting this squabble you've proven nothing but how vast your stupidity is.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 21 2012 14:21 GMT
#2155
Two games of Vi, two losses. I think I can't play champs that need to stick to targets with autos, I just fail with people like Vi, Xin, and Shy.

But she's so coooool.
It's your boy Guzma!
Live2Win *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6657 Posts
December 21 2012 14:35 GMT
#2156
THE SECRET'S OUT! Helios's interview: "I wanted to play Hec, because he's secretly OP right now, but my teammates wanted to keep it on the DL" (which is dumb now cuz now people know)
SAY YES TO STIM KIDS!!! XD
WhiteDog
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France8650 Posts
December 21 2012 15:16 GMT
#2157
On December 21 2012 23:10 Zhiroo wrote:
I find myself buying pink wards way more often nowadays after I get my Ruby Sightstone, I usually get two. Especially if there's an Evelynn in game. Also Cait/Nami lane pretty fun.

True, but they don t knwo where to place it. They put it in tribush or in the river, evelynn can still lane gank. But the real point is that they don t pink their surroundings before team fights. Making her waste the ult is 90% of the win against her.
"every time WhiteDog overuses the word "seriously" in a comment I can make an observation on his fragile emotional state." MoltkeWarding
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 21 2012 15:19 GMT
#2158
Alright, on Vi, I need a bit of input. What are my matchups that I can fight into? She doesn't seem nearly as safe to just farm with like Riven (who can dash in and out) or Jayce (Ranged mode). I went against Olaf and Garen, and I felt each time I went in to farm, they dumped on me. If I tried to duel to force them out, they out damaged me and were able to get more health back through regen mechanics.

Were these just bad matchups? Who do you think you can/can't pick her into?
It's your boy Guzma!
AsmodeusXI
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States15536 Posts
December 21 2012 15:27 GMT
#2159
On December 22 2012 00:19 Requizen wrote:
Alright, on Vi, I need a bit of input. What are my matchups that I can fight into? She doesn't seem nearly as safe to just farm with like Riven (who can dash in and out) or Jayce (Ranged mode). I went against Olaf and Garen, and I felt each time I went in to farm, they dumped on me. If I tried to duel to force them out, they out damaged me and were able to get more health back through regen mechanics.

Were these just bad matchups? Who do you think you can/can't pick her into?


Maybe it would be good to go with what someone suggested earlier and max W and E for more dueling power. Barring anything else, maybe there's a few matchups where you just have to use E to farm?
WriterTL > RL. BNet: Asmodeus#1187 - LoL: DJForeclosure - Steam: asmodeusxi | www.n3rddimension.com
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
December 21 2012 15:32 GMT
#2160
On December 22 2012 00:27 AsmodeusXI wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2012 00:19 Requizen wrote:
Alright, on Vi, I need a bit of input. What are my matchups that I can fight into? She doesn't seem nearly as safe to just farm with like Riven (who can dash in and out) or Jayce (Ranged mode). I went against Olaf and Garen, and I felt each time I went in to farm, they dumped on me. If I tried to duel to force them out, they out damaged me and were able to get more health back through regen mechanics.

Were these just bad matchups? Who do you think you can/can't pick her into?


Maybe it would be good to go with what someone suggested earlier and max W and E for more dueling power. Barring anything else, maybe there's a few matchups where you just have to use E to farm?

Entirely possible. I maxed Q vs Garen (though I might need the mobility for their jungle Mao). I maxed W vs Olaf, but I felt like every time I went in to trade he just landed QE and walk away, and later he could just QE and initiate and I couldn't outdamage him. Though I really shouldn't have tried, Olaf isn't really someone you can duel.
It's your boy Guzma!
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