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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-04 23:57:16
December 04 2012 23:56 GMT
#461
Crap, earlier than I thought. PC not fixed yet, can't play. :<

Also fuck, for the lack of usefulness of my posts I really have a thing for hogging the first post of the page. >.>
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11779 Posts
December 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#462
On December 05 2012 08:52 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 08:48 seRapH wrote:
except spamhappy/zekent plays way more than poppy.

But still playing multiple roles is how some people deal with soloq. You certainly don't have to, as playing a single champ gets results faster.
On December 05 2012 08:48 Irave wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:39 seRapH wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:35 Mondeezy wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:33 smOOthMayDie wrote:
I've been wondering, if I only have a couple of "top" champions, and several "adc" champions, and only +phys dmg red/quints / /armor yellows/ and mr blues. When I go into ranked games and tell my team I can only play top or adc, and both roles get taken, what do I do? Even after communicating, telling them that I'm unable to play any other roles due to not having those champions, or runes for those champions, do I just pick one or the other (top/adc) and go wherever?


I mean, runes aren't everything. But you really shouldn't play ranked unless you know at least one champ in each role and are willing to play any role.

I would disagree. You can go into ranked and say yea I won't do well at these roles and these are the ones I want. As long as you're aware that sometimes you'll get shafted into a bad role and have a bad game every once in a while or experience a lot of dodges in champ select it's fine.

Such a counter productive idea behind playing ranked. Welp I told you guys I can only really play adc or top. So one of the few champions I know how to play is going to be your support. Not getting your pick, and coming off as trolling with yours sets the mood for a big 20 minute fail.

I don't mean to say not to try to win just because you lost your role. Plus honestly it's fucking soloq I will never understand why people care so much about their elo.


Yeah, playing one champ will definitly produce results faster. One person comes to mind that is pretty new to the league of legends scene: xHazzard. This guy just started playing about a year ago and was fresh to the game. He shot up to higher elo only playing Nidalee and learning the mechanics of the game through her, because he wanted to be a professional player, and now he is 'somewhat'


The problem is that those guys can only exist on the back of others, and everybody hates them. If you can only play one role, you are banking on the rest of your team being flexible, AND giving you what you want. You probably have to use "Mid or feed" tactics to always get your pick, and maybe trollpicking in order to get someone to dodge if you have to play something else. In short, you have to be a dick if you can only play one role. It might work, but people will still hate you, and you will still be incredibly annoying.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 04 2012 23:58 GMT
#463
LOL

Trinity force description-TONS OF DAMAGE
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#464
Actually you can type that in the research bar and it'll give you triforce too.
Now I wonder if I'll have to switch my game's language so I can type "BT" and get it, or it the keywords are shared across languages.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Louuster
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2869 Posts
December 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#465
On December 05 2012 08:58 Simberto wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 08:52 smOOthMayDie wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:48 seRapH wrote:
except spamhappy/zekent plays way more than poppy.

But still playing multiple roles is how some people deal with soloq. You certainly don't have to, as playing a single champ gets results faster.
On December 05 2012 08:48 Irave wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:39 seRapH wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:35 Mondeezy wrote:
On December 05 2012 08:33 smOOthMayDie wrote:
I've been wondering, if I only have a couple of "top" champions, and several "adc" champions, and only +phys dmg red/quints / /armor yellows/ and mr blues. When I go into ranked games and tell my team I can only play top or adc, and both roles get taken, what do I do? Even after communicating, telling them that I'm unable to play any other roles due to not having those champions, or runes for those champions, do I just pick one or the other (top/adc) and go wherever?


I mean, runes aren't everything. But you really shouldn't play ranked unless you know at least one champ in each role and are willing to play any role.

I would disagree. You can go into ranked and say yea I won't do well at these roles and these are the ones I want. As long as you're aware that sometimes you'll get shafted into a bad role and have a bad game every once in a while or experience a lot of dodges in champ select it's fine.

Such a counter productive idea behind playing ranked. Welp I told you guys I can only really play adc or top. So one of the few champions I know how to play is going to be your support. Not getting your pick, and coming off as trolling with yours sets the mood for a big 20 minute fail.

I don't mean to say not to try to win just because you lost your role. Plus honestly it's fucking soloq I will never understand why people care so much about their elo.


Yeah, playing one champ will definitly produce results faster. One person comes to mind that is pretty new to the league of legends scene: xHazzard. This guy just started playing about a year ago and was fresh to the game. He shot up to higher elo only playing Nidalee and learning the mechanics of the game through her, because he wanted to be a professional player, and now he is 'somewhat'


The problem is that those guys can only exist on the back of others, and everybody hates them. If you can only play one role, you are banking on the rest of your team being flexible, AND giving you what you want. You probably have to use "Mid or feed" tactics to always get your pick, and maybe trollpicking in order to get someone to dodge if you have to play something else. In short, you have to be a dick if you can only play one role. It might work, but people will still hate you, and you will still be incredibly annoying.


Or you become inverted, memorize all the gold amounts you give when you die and recite them as people keep killing you when you dont get to play your champ.
Kim Taek Yong fighting~
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
December 05 2012 00:01 GMT
#466
http://get.adobe.com/air/

I was told downloading this will help your client and it worked for me. Idk really past this.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
rackdude
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States882 Posts
December 05 2012 00:03 GMT
#467
But even when they played one character, like HotShot Nid, they still "played other champions". I mean, they owned Soraka and picked raka twice in the season or something, but they still knew the game well enough to do it alright. Same thing here: shoot to play one role over and over, but own some other champions for when you need to do something else (also, they used free champions some).

Sweet.
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#468
On December 05 2012 09:03 rackdude wrote:
But even when they played one character, like HotShot Nid, they still "played other champions". I mean, they owned Soraka and picked raka twice in the season or something, but they still knew the game well enough to do it alright. Same thing here: shoot to play one role over and over, but own some other champions for when you need to do something else (also, they used free champions some).


Plus the amount of people that were playing during those times were little. Even then they had the name recognition to get whatever they wanted. You still see it now in the higher elo's constantly. The player pool is vastly smaller so its simple to get the role you want because you've likely paired with a few members of your team multiple times. If your starting out in ranked now you will likely never see a familiar face. The odds of getting that one champion you want are very little. So not getting it you're basically useless if you aren't capable of getting someone to dodge. Sure if your higher elo play that one champion till you die, starting out you're forced to adapt.
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 05 2012 00:09 GMT
#469
On December 05 2012 09:01 Alaric wrote:
Actually you can type that in the research bar and it'll give you triforce too.
Now I wonder if I'll have to switch my game's language so I can type "BT" and get it, or it the keywords are shared across languages.

TBH it would be pretty cool if they made the displayed item text editable so that you could use your own custom keywords for searching for items.
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smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 05 2012 00:11 GMT
#470
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?
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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22144 Posts
December 05 2012 00:14 GMT
#471
On December 05 2012 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote:
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?


Skill. what else. not like there is a written exam you need to pass first.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 05 2012 00:15 GMT
#472
On December 05 2012 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote:
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?


Skill. what else. not like there is a written exam you need to pass first.


Skill is such a meh response, what exactly defines skill? Mechanical skill? How well you cs or position yourself?
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Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 05 2012 00:17 GMT
#473
On December 05 2012 09:15 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote:
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?


Skill. what else. not like there is a written exam you need to pass first.


Skill is such a meh response, what exactly defines skill? Mechanical skill? How well you cs or position yourself?


Do you honestly expect a forum post to answer your question? That's something a 30 page paper on the subject matter won't even cover.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 05 2012 00:17 GMT
#474
On December 05 2012 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote:
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?


You need strong last hitting, map awareness, ability to adapt to different champions and comps.

You also need a fair amount of time.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany11779 Posts
December 05 2012 00:20 GMT
#475
The conglomeration of things that make you win. That is gamesense, mechanical skill, knowledge, psychological skill, the ability to lead a team, drafting skill, even dodging skill. Probably some other factors i forgot. Simply, anything that increases your chances of winning a game is part of that skill.

Plus you need an adequate amount of time.
smOOthMayDie
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States997 Posts
December 05 2012 00:22 GMT
#476
On December 05 2012 09:20 Simberto wrote:


Plus you need an adequate amount of time.


Why is time a factor, can anyone explain this?
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Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
December 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#477
On December 05 2012 09:15 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:14 Gorsameth wrote:
On December 05 2012 09:11 smOOthMayDie wrote:
How hard is it to get to high elo anyways? Does anyone know what exactly separates low elo players to high elo players?


Skill. what else. not like there is a written exam you need to pass first.


Skill is such a meh response, what exactly defines skill? Mechanical skill? How well you cs or position yourself?

Consistency, if you are capable of continuing to play well game after game you will slowly climb the ladder. Obviously learning to properly execute mechanics is a big plus. I think mechanics like last hitting are one the rise in the lower elo. Not overly high, but cs seems much higher than what they once were. I think the biggest issue is coordinating with your team to push an advantage. Grouping, executing plays to take down a turret instead of getting a couple of kills and doing nothing after. Could possibly be a million reasons as to why its hard, but the only guaranteed way up is if you're capable of playing well the majority of the time.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-05 00:24:35
December 05 2012 00:23 GMT
#478
On December 05 2012 09:22 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:20 Simberto wrote:


Plus you need an adequate amount of time.


Why is time a factor, can anyone explain this?


It takes time to put things into muscle memory so it frees up your attention for other things. Also to know what to do in situations, you can't just instantly know what works and what doesn't without ever being in that situation.
Ares[Effort] *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
DEMACIA6550 Posts
December 05 2012 00:24 GMT
#479
Don't like new interface, also chat is so tiny now
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
December 05 2012 00:24 GMT
#480
On December 05 2012 09:22 smOOthMayDie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 05 2012 09:20 Simberto wrote:


Plus you need an adequate amount of time.


Why is time a factor, can anyone explain this?

pretty simple

time = practice (more games, more experience)

and if you believe in elo hell time = larger sample size i.e. your true skill should show in more games.
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