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Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 22:20:32
December 09 2012 22:18 GMT
#2781
On December 10 2012 07:15 Alaric wrote:
Now that this game's over, how about you guys switch to our casting golems take on AHGL?
Uh, the url markup doesn't seem to work. Whatever, the URL's twitch.tv/tlcastinggolems Nvm I forgot the http://


Can't find stream on AHGL site or day9.tv ;..;

Linky pls?

Tuned in, I think Lux will poop on Xerath.
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2012 22:20 GMT
#2782
Yeah, the AHGL site doesn't seem up to date, it's still talking about last season. For a link... well you got it now.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 22:25:05
December 09 2012 22:22 GMT
#2783
On December 10 2012 06:48 romanov wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days.

And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game"

When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche.

is this ranked? If you're level 30 and play normals you really shouldn't expect much

Also if 2 people don't want to surrender, your team didn't surrender, your opinion isn't somehow more important than the others' on your team

Agreed, in ranked you play serious mode. In normals you can have some fun as long as you are at least trying to win besides it. I always find it really annoying when people get mad in normals because i didn't fill up some stupid last role. If i want to play veigar i'm playing veigar. If that means i have to play jungle veigar fine but if you want a T1 jungler then pick one yourself, in normals ofcourse.

I don't quite agree with this, I don't play ranked because I don't want to deal with the stress (I know it's just a number but I know if I tried to get an elo I would be bothered if I thought it was too low). I guess people don't have to conform to the meta, but it's just annoying when I expect a standard game and end up with jungle Irelia or support Panth (because you know, he has a stun). If you want to dick around in blind pick that's fine, but I think normal draft should at least be taken semi-seriously.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Sponkz
Profile Joined May 2011
Denmark4564 Posts
December 09 2012 22:22 GMT
#2784
On December 10 2012 07:05 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:54 Sponkz wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
[[Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days.

And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game"

When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche.



Just carried a game as soraka, oh man you feel like a hero when u do it with a non-CC support.

You can carry some pretty braindead ADCs with soraka truthfully



4 brain dead team mates, i ended up getting +3 teamwork after the game, cus of heals and stuff


Also Locket seems like the new go-to item for supports. CDR, armor, health and that shield. It's really support's wet dream.
hi
nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2012 22:24 GMT
#2785
On December 10 2012 07:20 Alaric wrote:
Yeah, the AHGL site doesn't seem up to date, it's still talking about last season. For a link... well you got it now.

Who and who is playing right now? I see lux vs xerath.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 09 2012 22:26 GMT
#2786
On December 10 2012 07:24 nosliw wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:20 Alaric wrote:
Yeah, the AHGL site doesn't seem up to date, it's still talking about last season. For a link... well you got it now.

Who and who is playing right now? I see lux vs xerath.


It's some Curse people (none from the team roaster) and some... semi-random people.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2012 22:29 GMT
#2787
From a company. Now guess which...
I expect a lot of snipes with those teamcomps. Hell, I want a ton of snipes. Also made me think, if ignite is the laning spell and exhaust the teamfighting one, wouldn't Karthus, who runs exhaust to kill, actually like Barrier in teamfights?

And yeah, Locket best item. Leona's got a shield on her model and in her kit, now she's got one in her inventory too, ready to towerdive!
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 09 2012 22:30 GMT
#2788
On December 10 2012 07:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:05 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 10 2012 07:04 HeroHenry wrote:
I seriously don't see the curse potential people talk about.

They're above the other non-Troika NA trams, but they still can't beat the Troika.


I actually think Curse isn't that much worse than Dignitas, they just haven't met and played with each other in a serious environment in a long time.


Sometimes curse looks really good and other times they just look like trash.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 09 2012 22:33 GMT
#2789
On December 10 2012 07:12 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:05 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
On December 10 2012 07:04 HeroHenry wrote:
I seriously don't see the curse potential people talk about.

They're above the other non-Troika NA trams, but they still can't beat the Troika.


I actually think Curse isn't that much worse than Dignitas, they just haven't met and played with each other in a serious environment in a long time.

Agreed. I believe the infamous ARAM incident at MLG Raleigh was the last time they played, which Curse actually won. They lost the ARAM but then beat Dig 3-1 in normal games. And that was when Westrice started top, I think they are a better team with Voy.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
December 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#2790
Can someone explain why 15000 people are watching Phreak stream? It seems mind boggling to me
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14220 Posts
December 09 2012 22:42 GMT
#2791
wardens mail is still the best first item for tanky supports. its a lot cheaper and you don't need the hp regen now that you have a bottle. Locket stacking is pretty lulzy for anti aoe team comps.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 09 2012 22:43 GMT
#2792
On December 10 2012 07:42 Badboyrune wrote:
Can someone explain why 15000 people are watching Phreak stream? It seems mind boggling to me


He deals tons of damage and has the golden voice.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
December 09 2012 22:45 GMT
#2793
On December 10 2012 07:42 Badboyrune wrote:
Can someone explain why 15000 people are watching Phreak stream? It seems mind boggling to me


Because he explains a lot and he is pleasant to listen to. Also he doesn't say "camped" every time he gets ganked.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 09 2012 22:46 GMT
#2794
On December 10 2012 07:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:48 romanov wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days.

And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game"

When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche.

is this ranked? If you're level 30 and play normals you really shouldn't expect much

Also if 2 people don't want to surrender, your team didn't surrender, your opinion isn't somehow more important than the others' on your team

Agreed, in ranked you play serious mode. In normals you can have some fun as long as you are at least trying to win besides it. I always find it really annoying when people get mad in normals because i didn't fill up some stupid last role. If i want to play veigar i'm playing veigar. If that means i have to play jungle veigar fine but if you want a T1 jungler then pick one yourself, in normals ofcourse.

I don't quite agree with this, I don't play ranked because I don't want to deal with the stress (I know it's just a number but I know if I tried to get an elo I would be bothered if I thought it was too low). I guess people don't have to conform to the meta, but it's just annoying when I expect a standard game and end up with jungle Irelia or support Panth (because you know, he has a stun). If you want to dick around in blind pick that's fine, but I think normal draft should at least be taken semi-seriously.


Jungle irelia and support panth are perfectly viable in normal draft -- it's not like they're completely stupid, as you said, panth has a stun. Panth is actually part of some of the more insane kill lanes bot -- be more open minded about teamcomps esp. in normals
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 22:49:19
December 09 2012 22:48 GMT
#2795
On December 10 2012 07:46 thenexusp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:48 romanov wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days.

And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game"

When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche.

is this ranked? If you're level 30 and play normals you really shouldn't expect much

Also if 2 people don't want to surrender, your team didn't surrender, your opinion isn't somehow more important than the others' on your team

Agreed, in ranked you play serious mode. In normals you can have some fun as long as you are at least trying to win besides it. I always find it really annoying when people get mad in normals because i didn't fill up some stupid last role. If i want to play veigar i'm playing veigar. If that means i have to play jungle veigar fine but if you want a T1 jungler then pick one yourself, in normals ofcourse.

I don't quite agree with this, I don't play ranked because I don't want to deal with the stress (I know it's just a number but I know if I tried to get an elo I would be bothered if I thought it was too low). I guess people don't have to conform to the meta, but it's just annoying when I expect a standard game and end up with jungle Irelia or support Panth (because you know, he has a stun). If you want to dick around in blind pick that's fine, but I think normal draft should at least be taken semi-seriously.


Jungle irelia and support panth are perfectly viable in normal draft -- it's not like they're completely stupid, as you said, panth has a stun. Panth is actually part of some of the more insane kill lanes bot -- be more open minded about teamcomps esp. in normals


I think jungle Irelia and support Pantheon are OK even in ranked. They are not that bad. I do get really annoyed if someone plays, say, support Katarina.

I don't like people "picking Veigar because I want to play him" in normal draft though. If you want to play a very specific champion you should be playing blind.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
December 09 2012 23:02 GMT
#2796
On December 10 2012 07:01 Gaslo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
Dyrus used to have a huge champ pool. Then TSM decided they lost in S2 Champs because he played too many (I'd put Dyrus' champ pool as TSM's #4 problem, at the highest). I mean, Kayle, Jax, Singed, Jayce, Vlad, Rumble, and Olaf all have been strong for him. He just sucks at Irelia and keeps trying to play FOTM Rengar and Darius.

On the other hand Chaox can only play Corki, Regi is shut down by a Karthus ban and no one on the team knows how to farm after 2 towers are down.


Its funny, its not that long since the regionals, where people were saying that Regi can only play Morgana. And not long before that when they said that Regis Grag is the only decent champ he has.


Regi Morg is still a good morg, the problem is morg is not still morg.
Freeeeeeedom
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 23:07:26
December 09 2012 23:04 GMT
#2797
On December 10 2012 07:48 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:46 thenexusp wrote:
On December 10 2012 07:22 onlywonderboy wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:48 romanov wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:13 thenexusp wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote:
Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days.

And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game"

When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche.

is this ranked? If you're level 30 and play normals you really shouldn't expect much

Also if 2 people don't want to surrender, your team didn't surrender, your opinion isn't somehow more important than the others' on your team

Agreed, in ranked you play serious mode. In normals you can have some fun as long as you are at least trying to win besides it. I always find it really annoying when people get mad in normals because i didn't fill up some stupid last role. If i want to play veigar i'm playing veigar. If that means i have to play jungle veigar fine but if you want a T1 jungler then pick one yourself, in normals ofcourse.

I don't quite agree with this, I don't play ranked because I don't want to deal with the stress (I know it's just a number but I know if I tried to get an elo I would be bothered if I thought it was too low). I guess people don't have to conform to the meta, but it's just annoying when I expect a standard game and end up with jungle Irelia or support Panth (because you know, he has a stun). If you want to dick around in blind pick that's fine, but I think normal draft should at least be taken semi-seriously.


Jungle irelia and support panth are perfectly viable in normal draft -- it's not like they're completely stupid, as you said, panth has a stun. Panth is actually part of some of the more insane kill lanes bot -- be more open minded about teamcomps esp. in normals


I think jungle Irelia and support Pantheon are OK even in ranked. They are not that bad. I do get really annoyed if someone plays, say, support Katarina.

I don't like people "picking Veigar because I want to play him" in normal draft though. If you want to play a very specific champion you should be playing blind.

Bad examples on my part, they were just fresh in my mind because I played those games recently where people picked those champs in those roles and lost with them. They were probably just having a bad game. That second point was more what I was trying to say anyway.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
scarper65
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1560 Posts
December 09 2012 23:14 GMT
#2798
On December 10 2012 08:02 cLutZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 07:01 Gaslo wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
Dyrus used to have a huge champ pool. Then TSM decided they lost in S2 Champs because he played too many (I'd put Dyrus' champ pool as TSM's #4 problem, at the highest). I mean, Kayle, Jax, Singed, Jayce, Vlad, Rumble, and Olaf all have been strong for him. He just sucks at Irelia and keeps trying to play FOTM Rengar and Darius.

On the other hand Chaox can only play Corki, Regi is shut down by a Karthus ban and no one on the team knows how to farm after 2 towers are down.


Its funny, its not that long since the regionals, where people were saying that Regi can only play Morgana. And not long before that when they said that Regis Grag is the only decent champ he has.


Regi Morg is still a good morg, the problem is morg is not still morg.

What happened to morg? DId she get nerfed or something?
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 23:19:10
December 09 2012 23:15 GMT
#2799
Idea:

Team all starts machete for 10 true + 10% bonus vs neutral, goes for a really quick dragon and ends up with a lot of experience and +100 net gold. Worth it?

I remember TPA or something going for a 2:30 dragon, thought it was pretty cool. Might be even better now with the machete.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
December 09 2012 23:17 GMT
#2800
On December 10 2012 08:14 scarper65 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 08:02 cLutZ wrote:
On December 10 2012 07:01 Gaslo wrote:
On December 10 2012 06:53 cLutZ wrote:
Dyrus used to have a huge champ pool. Then TSM decided they lost in S2 Champs because he played too many (I'd put Dyrus' champ pool as TSM's #4 problem, at the highest). I mean, Kayle, Jax, Singed, Jayce, Vlad, Rumble, and Olaf all have been strong for him. He just sucks at Irelia and keeps trying to play FOTM Rengar and Darius.

On the other hand Chaox can only play Corki, Regi is shut down by a Karthus ban and no one on the team knows how to farm after 2 towers are down.


Its funny, its not that long since the regionals, where people were saying that Regi can only play Morgana. And not long before that when they said that Regis Grag is the only decent champ he has.


Regi Morg is still a good morg, the problem is morg is not still morg.

What happened to morg? DId she get nerfed or something?

There are just better champions than her.
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