EPT[Patch 1.0.0.152: Preseason 3] General Discussion - Page 141
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Simberto
Germany11927 Posts
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
If I had to rank you guys it would be like at the X on this scale: Jatt - Deman - Joe "Joe Miller" Miller - Scarra - Phreak - X - Hatperson - Red Baron - Studio - Jaws - Rivington | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:18 Simberto wrote: Dragon spawns at 5 minutes, and if you all have machetes, i don't see how the enemy will let you have dragon. They would need to be really stupid to let that happen, especially considering that the dragon will hit you pretty hard. I thought it spawns at 2:30? :O | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:14 scarper65 wrote: What happened to morg? DId she get nerfed or something? Easy to outpush her, she's annoying to gank but rely on her long cd ultimate for her roaming. She also isn't too strong in lane during the early levels so she can't really help if one gets invaded. Her combo is pretty awkward to execute someone (W being an area-centered DoT) without using her ult, which is way better used as a teamfighting tool. She is very flash-reliant for her initiation, too. Basically: - Diana bursts harder and roams better - Orianna is almost as safe and has way better teamfight synergy with her kit/ult - Karthus has better presence from 6 onwards and scales harder as an AoE teamfighter She also doesn't benefit that much from CDR compared to others (notably because of her W again) and has no mana issues so Grail isn't too appealing. | ||
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Praetorial
United States4241 Posts
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Yeah, its 2:30. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11927 Posts
Sorry, you are right. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:20 Praetorial wrote: I'd personally rank scarra lower, since he seems to force excitement a lot, which quickly becomes annoying. Scarra I think is far better in the "desk/couch" post/pregame than doing the actual casting. Think League tournaments need to start using other people for downtime besides the actual game casters. | ||
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Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:20 Praetorial wrote: I'd personally rank scarra lower, since he seems to force excitement a lot, which quickly becomes annoying. I left a lot of people out. Like Panky and Qu1cksh0t, Panky would be above Scarra, QS would be above HatPerson. And Wombat would be above Studio. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:23 Doctorbeat wrote: I left a lot of people out. Like Panky and Qu1cksh0t, Panky would be above Scarra, QS would be above HatPerson. And Wombat would be above Studio. Wombat #1 !@$@#% Who else can talk about completely random shit and still keep your attention with that silky smooth voice. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:23 Doctorbeat wrote: I left a lot of people out. Like Panky and Qu1cksh0t, Panky would be above Scarra, QS would be above HatPerson. And Wombat would be above Studio. I'd rank HatPerson as the worst, I just really don't like him. Scarra would probably be really good at casting if he practiced, but as it stands he's a better post-game analyst. Edit: I don't get the Wombat love, I kinda just get annoyed with his random non sequiturs and references. Great voice though. | ||
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thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:20 Alaric wrote: Easy to outpush her, she's annoying to gank but rely on her long cd ultimate for her roaming. She also isn't too strong in lane during the early levels so she can't really help if one gets invaded. Her combo is pretty awkward to execute someone (W being an area-centered DoT) without using her ult, which is way better used as a teamfighting tool. She is very flash-reliant for her initiation, too. Basically: - Diana bursts harder and roams better - Orianna is almost as safe and has way better teamfight synergy with her kit/ult - Karthus has better presence from 6 onwards and scales harder as an AoE teamfighter She also doesn't benefit that much from CDR compared to others (notably because of her W again) and has no mana issues so Grail isn't too appealing. But her CC shield is so guud, esp since it's league of BC currently so a lot of teams have no way of breaking the shield | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
I think the TL casting golems are pretty damn good considering how long they've been doing this. Wave and Soniv already have a lot of chemistry, which is something many casters have to work on for months/years. | ||
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Haasts
New Zealand4445 Posts
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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Seuss
United States10536 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:15 ticklishmusic wrote: Idea: Team all starts machete for 10 true + 10% bonus vs neutral, goes for a really quick dragon and ends up with a lot of experience and +100 net gold. Worth it? I remember TPA or something going for a 2:30 dragon, thought it was pretty cool. Might be even better now with the machete. The problem with this strategy is that there's no time for your team to go back, sell Machetes, and go to their lanes with real items. As a result your team is going to lane with disadvantages that could very quickly and easily go beyond 100g and a little experience. On December 10 2012 08:36 Haasts wrote: Anyone had much luck running any AP-based junglers in S3? I've seen a fair amount of Fiddlesticks, the sporadic Diana (when she hasn't been banned or taken mid), and I guess Nunu/Amumu/Maokai count if you squint a bit, but was wondering if the new items &c would provide opportunities for some other champions. I guess the mana regen on Spirit Stone/Spirits of the Spectral Wraith is less than ideal for energy/resourceless champs like Rumble or Mordekaiser, but IDK, I wonder if the fourth-position jungler would let you get away with playing, say, Galio as someone to hold Runic Bulwark/Mikael's Crucible/Twin Shadows/etc. Probably no upsides to running them over Mao/Mumu, though. I'm the ultimate Jungle Akali hipster. I've only had a working setup for her for over two years now, just waiting for the meta to accommodate. Because of her stupidly high single target damage and super synergy with the buffed Gunblade she's actually pretty good if your team want to focus more in diving than protecting your carry. | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On December 10 2012 08:29 thenexusp wrote: But her CC shield is so guud, esp since it's league of BC currently so a lot of teams have no way of breaking the shield I agree with most of what Alaric said + I think that the meta has shifted away from dragonfights and baronfights which is where morg is strongest. During sieges she has to fish for binds to be relevant  And LoBC doesn't need cc to kill you Plus are you really gonna run Morg vs. Talon or Pantheon? | ||
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Gaslo
Finland951 Posts
Its funny how fast she dropped. Like at one point had 2 games in a row, in the first one one from my team quit because enemy team first picked Morg, and that automatically means we lost, and in the next lobby my team mate dodged because i picked Morg. Not banworthy, but a solid pick. edit: Same with Gragas, i remember watching Scarra play him in soloq couple of weeks ago, against some semi decent NA AP. Scarra totally owned him with Gragas, and the other guy was like "OMG, I TOTALLY FORGOT HOW GOOD GRAGAS IS! I CANT EVEN REMEMBER WHY I STOPPED PLAYING HIM" Gragas, from FOTM to getting picked 6 times at IPL5 in like a month.  | ||
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ExoFun
Netherlands2041 Posts
to many skillshots for him. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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