On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me?
I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me?
The only thing to complain about was orianna's Q. pretty good description to me

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PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote: On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote: the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken everything was broken so it ended up balancing out No, that's more like how it is now. When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out". I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things ![]() Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me? The only thing to complain about was orianna's Q. pretty good description to me ![]() | ||
sung_moon
United States10110 Posts
I also thought Fiora was a bess champ cuz of Omnislash. How I've learned. | ||
101toss
3232 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote: On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote: the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken everything was broken so it ended up balancing out No, that's more like how it is now. When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out". I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things ![]() Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me? Philo/hog stacking everywhere, jarvan and his atmogs/gp5 (thanks smash), ad mids, fiddle drained for so much, flat mr blues were retarded, kassadin was OP, brand and nocturne and vayne did so much damage on release, soraka had retarded sustain, sona did retarded damage, rammus did so much damage, no one even suspected malphite of being OP (I remember every game malphite would get fed and everyone would be like "wtf he does so much damage but all he has is armor") I felt it was a broken potpourri similar to BW's spider mines, siege tanks, gateway units, carriers, storm, lurkers, defilers, and other broken things | ||
jadoth
694 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:56 101toss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote: On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote: the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken everything was broken so it ended up balancing out No, that's more like how it is now. When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out". I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things ![]() Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me? Philo/hog stacking everywhere, jarvan and his atmogs/gp5 (thanks smash), ad mids, fiddle drained for so much, flat mr blues were retarded, kassadin was OP, brand and nocturne and vayne did so much damage on release, soraka had retarded sustain, sona did retarded damage, rammus did so much damage, no one even suspected malphite of being OP (I remember every game malphite would get fed and everyone would be like "wtf he does so much damage but all he has is armor") I felt it was a broken potpourri similar to BW's spider mines, siege tanks, gateway units, carriers, storm, lurkers, defilers, and other broken things I really really miss op rammus. | ||
Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
Also, report Saint for feeding pls. | ||
Shiragaku
Hong Kong4308 Posts
And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game" When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche. | ||
Chiharu Harukaze
12112 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:56 101toss wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote: On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote: the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken everything was broken so it ended up balancing out No, that's more like how it is now. When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out". I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things ![]() Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me? Philo/hog stacking everywhere, jarvan and his atmogs/gp5 (thanks smash), ad mids, fiddle drained for so much, flat mr blues were retarded, kassadin was OP, brand and nocturne and vayne did so much damage on release, soraka had retarded sustain, sona did retarded damage, rammus did so much damage, no one even suspected malphite of being OP (I remember every game malphite would get fed and everyone would be like "wtf he does so much damage but all he has is armor") I felt it was a broken potpourri similar to BW's spider mines, siege tanks, gateway units, carriers, storm, lurkers, defilers, and other broken things Wait is that what we're talking about? I thought something special happened before Cait patch. A lot of that was still around after Cait patch or only introduced after Cait patch. My Sorara... no longer a minifountain. T.T | ||
Doctorbeat
Netherlands13241 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game" When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche. Well then it's just a game for them too, so it probably won't matter much to them if they get banned. I report people who are toxic to the community, but I try not to hold a grudge and not to give in to their flamebaiting. The tribunal will judge. Oh and huehue Soraka that can give herself mana. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
On December 10 2012 05:51 Chiharu Harukaze wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote: On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote: the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken everything was broken so it ended up balancing out No, that's more like how it is now. When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out". I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things ![]() Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from. I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me? Aww, Chiharu actually a youngster. :3 | ||
thenexusp
United States3721 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. And quick question, how do you feel when people do stupid actions and use the excuse of "It's just a game." For example, I just had people who fed like hell and refused to surrender. Another time, someone went for attack speed Nautilus, another was pure AP Singed (the worst possible AP build you can do) and stealing blue buff from the mid and they said the same excuse "well it is just a game" and some people getting screwed over said the same "its just a game" When people say such a thing, the first thing I think of are teenage nihilists who misinterpret Nietzsche. is this ranked? If you're level 30 and play normals you really shouldn't expect much Also if 2 people don't want to surrender, your team didn't surrender, your opinion isn't somehow more important than the others' on your team | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:15 Numy wrote: Man Curse looks worse with Saint then without. That FB he fed to Dyrus top while Voy was getting blue was so silly. I was excited for them doing some sick jungle and solo lane swap but instead he just dies for free. | ||
Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:16 HazMat wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 06:15 Numy wrote: Man Curse looks worse with Saint then without. That FB he fed to Dyrus top while Voy was getting blue was so silly. I was excited for them doing some sick jungle and solo lane swap but instead he just dies for free. I missed that unfortunately. It feels like everyone on Curse has improved gameplay wise but Saint as seemingly gotten worse. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. By design their powerful laning kits were balanced by the fact that they have zero roaming/counter-roaming potential compared to the other supports of the time (e.g. Janna, Alistar, Taric). It's only because Riot more or less killed support roaming that created a power vacuum where the primary drawback of these two supports was no longer a drawback (being unable to roam isn't a drawback when nobody who could roam is good enough at it anymore to make it worthwhile)--thereby rocketing them into OP status. Soraka at the time could win any 2v2 lane. The tradeoff was that she could not roam, and could not create enough pressure in the 1v2 lane to stop the 1v2 laner from comfortably sneaking XP and lasthits--so the counterplay against Soraka was to simply not let her have a 2v2 lane, either by having a roaming support or by lane swapping. Personally I think it was a fair tradeoff, but Riot killed the roaming option, and lane swaps hadn't been thoroughly explored enough to exploit her weak 2v1 power. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Capped
United Kingdom7236 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:18 TheYango wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. By design their powerful laning kits were balanced by the fact that they have zero roaming/counter-roaming potential compared to the other supports of the time (e.g. Janna, Alistar, Taric). It's only because Riot more or less killed support roaming that created a power vacuum where the primary drawback of these two supports was no longer a drawback (being unable to roam isn't a drawback when nobody who could roam is good enough at it anymore to make it worthwhile)--thereby rocketing them into OP status. Soraka at the time could win any 2v2 lane. The tradeoff was that she could not roam, and could not create enough pressure in the 1v2 lane to stop the 1v2 laner from comfortably sneaking XP and lasthits--so the counterplay against Soraka was to simply not let her have a 2v2 lane, either by having a roaming support or by lane swapping. Personally I think it was a fair tradeoff, but Riot killed the roaming option, and lane swaps hadn't been thoroughly explored enough to exploit her weak 2v1 power. Who says supports cant roam? Mobil boots leona OP shit. Many a midplayer has been owned by my unsuspected W-E-Q-R combo. | ||
PrinceXizor
United States17713 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:35 Capped wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 06:18 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. By design their powerful laning kits were balanced by the fact that they have zero roaming/counter-roaming potential compared to the other supports of the time (e.g. Janna, Alistar, Taric). It's only because Riot more or less killed support roaming that created a power vacuum where the primary drawback of these two supports was no longer a drawback (being unable to roam isn't a drawback when nobody who could roam is good enough at it anymore to make it worthwhile)--thereby rocketing them into OP status. Soraka at the time could win any 2v2 lane. The tradeoff was that she could not roam, and could not create enough pressure in the 1v2 lane to stop the 1v2 laner from comfortably sneaking XP and lasthits--so the counterplay against Soraka was to simply not let her have a 2v2 lane, either by having a roaming support or by lane swapping. Personally I think it was a fair tradeoff, but Riot killed the roaming option, and lane swaps hadn't been thoroughly explored enough to exploit her weak 2v1 power. Who says supports cant roam? Mobil boots leona OP shit. Many a midplayer has been owned by my unsuspected W-E-Q-R combo. Leona didn't exist at the time we are talking about. | ||
Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On December 10 2012 06:35 Capped wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2012 06:18 TheYango wrote: On December 10 2012 06:07 Shiragaku wrote: Yeah...the days when Soraka and Sona were such powerful supports, they could actually carry harder than any other role. And there was when Rammus was unbelievably broken. Those were the good ole days. By design their powerful laning kits were balanced by the fact that they have zero roaming/counter-roaming potential compared to the other supports of the time (e.g. Janna, Alistar, Taric). It's only because Riot more or less killed support roaming that created a power vacuum where the primary drawback of these two supports was no longer a drawback (being unable to roam isn't a drawback when nobody who could roam is good enough at it anymore to make it worthwhile)--thereby rocketing them into OP status. Soraka at the time could win any 2v2 lane. The tradeoff was that she could not roam, and could not create enough pressure in the 1v2 lane to stop the 1v2 laner from comfortably sneaking XP and lasthits--so the counterplay against Soraka was to simply not let her have a 2v2 lane, either by having a roaming support or by lane swapping. Personally I think it was a fair tradeoff, but Riot killed the roaming option, and lane swaps hadn't been thoroughly explored enough to exploit her weak 2v1 power. Who says supports cant roam? Mobil boots leona OP shit. Many a midplayer has been owned by my unsuspected W-E-Q-R combo. I assume this unsuspecting midplayer also never warded river. | ||
Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
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