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Azn_Christian
Profile Joined September 2010
United States153 Posts
December 09 2012 20:30 GMT
#2721
But Master Yi in Closed beta was pretty broken!
Life appears to me too short to be spent in nursing animosity or registering wrongs." - Charlotte Bronte, Jane Eyre
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 09 2012 20:32 GMT
#2722
On December 10 2012 05:27 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.


no it didn't


rose glasses
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 09 2012 20:33 GMT
#2723
On December 10 2012 05:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:27 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.


no it didn't


rose glasses

Sophie's World?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 20:35:56
December 09 2012 20:34 GMT
#2724
On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote:
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out

No, that's more like how it is now.

When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out".

That said, I think I was most satisfied with the state of the game around Orianna patch, in terms of overall power level and gameplay. It went downhill after Yorick patch. Yorick ruined the game.
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101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 09 2012 20:36 GMT
#2725
On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote:
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out

No, that's more like how it is now.

When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out".

I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
December 09 2012 20:37 GMT
#2726
eh, balance is overrated anyway. Just ask zed.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 09 2012 20:38 GMT
#2727
On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote:
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out

No, that's more like how it is now.

When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out".

I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things

I started on the Talon patch. Does that make me a sign of the Cleavepocalypse?
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 09 2012 20:38 GMT
#2728
On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote:
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out

No, that's more like how it is now.

When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out".

I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things

Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 09 2012 20:41 GMT
#2729
On December 10 2012 02:56 101toss wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 02:23 koreasilver wrote:
wtf everything hurts like hell now. I had tabi, glacial, and hexdrinker playing Darius last night and I was gettng blown up so quickly all the time. So ridiculous.

can i ask how many black cleavers were purchased

Only one on Khazix. That's what made me scratch my head so much. It seriously felt like my armor was actually doing nothing. I've never died so fast before when literally every item I built was geared towards defensive stats. Like, maybe with all the changes, especially in how armor is more expensive while AD is less expensive, and the penetration changes, pure defensive speccing just doesn't work as well anymore. But I was playing pretty bad and so was my team, so it might have just been a game that went wrong in every single way. I'll try it again and see how it goes.
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
December 09 2012 20:42 GMT
#2730
warmogs gonna make a return in the near future
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 09 2012 20:43 GMT
#2731
On December 10 2012 05:42 barbsq wrote:
warmogs gonna make a return in the near future

spirit visages already fuckin everywhere
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 09 2012 20:43 GMT
#2732
On December 10 2012 05:33 Chiharu Harukaze wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:32 UniversalSnip wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:27 gtrsrs wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.


no it didn't


rose glasses

Sophie's World?

I read that book when I was a kid but I don't recall the reference
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Scip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Czech Republic11293 Posts
December 09 2012 20:43 GMT
#2733
Yeah, I think you can definitely see that the way fights work out has changed, assasins becoming kinda more potent but not always. It's pretty weird, don't think anyone has it quite figured out just yet.
"It may be pleasurable for some of us to imagine being ravished" - Christopher Hitchens in a debate with feminists RIP 2011 Psalm 2:9 You shall break them with a rod of iron
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
December 09 2012 20:44 GMT
#2734
I like the game becoming more bursty
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Doctorbeat
Profile Joined May 2011
Netherlands13241 Posts
December 09 2012 20:46 GMT
#2735
Voyboy on Kha'Zix in TSM tourney. I wanna see what he builds (other than BC), it's the only champ that I have a cool skin for (Mecha skin so gosu :3)
- TEAM LIQUID - doctorbeat on LoL
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
December 09 2012 20:46 GMT
#2736
On December 10 2012 05:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
I like the game becoming more busty

FTFY.

:D
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
December 09 2012 20:46 GMT
#2737
On December 10 2012 05:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
I like the game becoming more bursty

I like the general trend, but there are definitely certain design issues with it. Case in point being how much armor you have to have to get past the point of "having armor doesn't do anything".
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PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 20:49:45
December 09 2012 20:48 GMT
#2738
On December 10 2012 05:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
I like the game becoming more bursty

I like the general trend, but there are definitely certain design issues with it. Case in point being how much armor you have to have to get past the point of "having armor doesn't do anything".

Penetration is always a big problem because there is no real counterplay. buying more hp i guess. :/

EDIT: okay i guess going 21 in defense, getting ninja tabi every game and playing damage reduction based characters (sona support, exhausts, maokai)
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35173 Posts
December 09 2012 20:49 GMT
#2739
On December 10 2012 05:46 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:44 UniversalSnip wrote:
I like the game becoming more bursty

I like the general trend, but there are definitely certain design issues with it. Case in point being how much armor you have to have to get past the point of "having armor doesn't do anything".

Perhaps they should revert the value nerfs and only keep the cost nerf.

Idk, I'm not anywhere good enough at this game to judge balance. All I know is going BC>BT>Hydra on Riven has been very enjoyable.
Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 09 2012 20:51 GMT
#2740
On December 10 2012 05:38 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 05:36 101toss wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:34 TheYango wrote:
On December 10 2012 05:28 101toss wrote:
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out

No, that's more like how it is now.

When it was broken before, it was really damn lopsided, lol. Unless you consider beta TF, release Xin, or hotfix Udyr "balancing out".

I started around when caitlyn came out, so I probably missed those things

Which means you started a few months before the time that I consider was when League's gameplay was at it's best, so I can see where you're coming from.

I wasn't around at that time. Mind describing it for me?
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
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