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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
December 09 2012 17:23 GMT
#2681
wtf everything hurts like hell now. I had tabi, glacial, and hexdrinker playing Darius last night and I was gettng blown up so quickly all the time. So ridiculous.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 09 2012 17:30 GMT
#2682
Tanky AP amumu is more OP than ever.

Rylais + Liandry's (+ maybe abyssal) is enough to completely rape any backline ever.
Some defense items on top, and you're set for life.

#1 carry soloQ
A backwards poet writes inverse.
qanik
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1899 Posts
December 09 2012 17:32 GMT
#2683
Yeah, damage is absolutely out of control this patch. The best defense you can get now is CC. If your champ can't abuse BC or has reliable CCs you are gonna have a bad time.
Best Teemo World
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 17:34:18
December 09 2012 17:33 GMT
#2684
On December 10 2012 01:56 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 09 2012 20:19 Irave wrote:
Holy shit, Vman is a broken man streaming right now. He finally realized turning off his cam would be an alright idea. Poor guy crying for whatever reason.


i would love some more info from this
dude takes so much shit from everyone
wonder what finally broke him


I watched a tiny bit at the end, I guess he was kind of drunk and crying about an ex or something.

"I don't want honour... I just want her."

- Emo Vman7

Also got a penta on jungle Darius, dunk'd 'em all.
Retvrn to Forvms
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 09 2012 17:56 GMT
#2685
On December 10 2012 02:23 koreasilver wrote:
wtf everything hurts like hell now. I had tabi, glacial, and hexdrinker playing Darius last night and I was gettng blown up so quickly all the time. So ridiculous.

can i ask how many black cleavers were purchased
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
XaCez
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden6991 Posts
December 09 2012 18:03 GMT
#2686
Feels like I am back playing TBC Patch 3.0.
People get too easily offended by people getting too easily offended by the word rape.
drivec
Profile Joined May 2009
United States354 Posts
December 09 2012 18:14 GMT
#2687
wonder how effective thornmail is with lots of hp vs all these blackcleavers
starcraft is chess at warp speed
Zess
Profile Joined July 2012
Adun Toridas!9144 Posts
December 09 2012 18:18 GMT
#2688
On December 10 2012 03:14 drivec wrote:
wonder how effective thornmail is with lots of hp vs all these blackcleavers

Is thornmail extremely cost effective for the armor even if you discount the passive?

I always thought thornmail was a noobtrap because the stats are skewed so your eHP is still pretty bad.
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Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
December 09 2012 18:21 GMT
#2689
so shaco is capable of taking both buffs at level 1 again because of machete
i haven't figured out the exact minimum flat ap that you need to run yet but 4 boxes + machete will basically kill blue buff while 1 box + a teammates help and smite kills reds buff again
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
December 09 2012 18:22 GMT
#2690
anyone that likes stacking hp and can make use of spirit visage so good now. Warmog's/visage/randuin's mundo, warmog's/visage/hourglass vlad....gonna be even better once they get these black cleaver nerfs done
I come in for the scraps
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
December 09 2012 18:28 GMT
#2691
On December 10 2012 03:14 drivec wrote:
wonder how effective thornmail is with lots of hp vs all these blackcleavers

Problem is thornmail only returns damage from autoattacks, a lot of the people that can abuse BC are champs who have physical damage spells.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
December 09 2012 18:31 GMT
#2692
On December 10 2012 03:21 Frolossus wrote:
so shaco is capable of taking both buffs at level 1 again because of machete
i haven't figured out the exact minimum flat ap that you need to run yet but 4 boxes + machete will basically kill blue buff while 1 box + a teammates help and smite kills reds buff again


Does shaco get the experience for both buffs or did they change this?
phyvo
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States5635 Posts
December 09 2012 18:32 GMT
#2693
If only Riot didn't nerf sunfire cape stacking, the obvious answer to black cleaver spam.
"BE A MANGO TO SLEEP LIKE A SNORING TIGER" - Monte
Frolossus
Profile Joined February 2010
United States4779 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 18:59:07
December 09 2012 18:37 GMT
#2694
On December 10 2012 03:31 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 03:21 Frolossus wrote:
so shaco is capable of taking both buffs at level 1 again because of machete
i haven't figured out the exact minimum flat ap that you need to run yet but 4 boxes + machete will basically kill blue buff while 1 box + a teammates help and smite kills reds buff again


Does shaco get the experience for both buffs or did they change this?

yes he does
currently the lowest number of AP i have succeeded with is 18, or 2 flat quints + some masteries. trying to lower that number as much as possible

edit: make that 13 flat ap
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
December 09 2012 18:42 GMT
#2695
My interpretation of this chart is that BC stacking is bad...
http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/14ip64/percentage_of_games_and_win_rate_for_black/
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 09 2012 18:45 GMT
#2696
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic
A backwards poet writes inverse.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 18:49:28
December 09 2012 18:48 GMT
#2697
On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic

There are many ways of interpreting this graph.

Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side.

It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing.


And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
December 09 2012 18:54 GMT
#2698
On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic

There are many ways of interpreting this graph.

Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side.

It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing.


And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything.


Most legendary items have a 65% win rate, GA is the only one I could find that was any higher at 70%. And Black Cleaver is at 65%. So explain how it's bad?
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
December 09 2012 18:56 GMT
#2699
If you have all 4 items with Spellblade (sheen, TF, lich bane, and iceborn gaunlet), which spellblade takes priority/which effect do you get when you attack?
Parnage
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States7414 Posts
December 09 2012 19:00 GMT
#2700
On December 10 2012 03:03 Xacez wrote:
Feels like I am back playing TBC Patch 3.0.


*Judgement* Sup!

I dunno I am sure things will get tweaked as soon as they figure out how they want to do such.
-orb- Fan. Live the Nal_rA dream. || Yordles are cool.
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