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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 09 2012 16:53 Inflicted_ wrote: Even if you don't go IE? I was thinking of BT -> SotD -> Zephyr on someone like Vayne (take advantage of SotD in ult, as well as to heal up). Uh. The 30% crit means you will be doing ~30% more damage. After BT, say, you have ~200 AD, then the 30% crit basically adds another 60 to it. | ||
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Nos-
Canada12016 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 09 2012 16:59 VirgilSC2 wrote: Are there any OGN Winter matches tonight? Don't think so, but WE is playing G-League groupstage right now. They're against their B-team though, so it should be a 2-0 stomp (they already won game 1). http://www.fengyunzhibo.com/tv/39079_1354004699650.htm EDIT: nm that was game 2 they won both games in less than an hour LOL | ||
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Ketara
United States15065 Posts
On December 09 2012 17:30 Sufficiency wrote: Uh. The 30% crit means you will be doing ~30% more damage. After BT, say, you have ~200 AD, then the 30% crit basically adds another 60 to it. 30% damage if 100% of your damage comes from your basic AD autoattacks. I'd be willing to entertain Zephyr math on Vayne. | ||
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JerKy
Korea (South)3013 Posts
people are waaay different in person and in game lol | ||
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icemanzdoinwork
447 Posts
On December 09 2012 16:55 wei2coolman wrote: Meh, I think the nerfs they're implementing for BC is a bit too much (in PBE). Just make the passive unique, and the rest shouldn't be touched. What they really need to change are the items that spritstone builds out of. This wasn't about it not being too much or op or anything of the sort. I also, believe it's a little much especially the brute nerf. I'm just talking the general chat of it. Stuff like "Losing hard? Build another Cleaver." "Oh your team lost in SoloQ? Should have built more cleavers." The witty remarks are comical right now and if you have 30 minutes or an hour with nothing to do. It's worth reading some of the threads. | ||
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Sufficiency
Canada23833 Posts
On December 09 2012 17:34 Ketara wrote: 30% damage if 100% of your damage comes from your basic AD autoattacks. I'd be willing to entertain Zephyr math on Vayne. Well they both give 50% AS. Zephyr wins in 20 extra AD, 5% MS, tenacity, and 10% CDR, but loses in 30% crit. Based on the previous math, say, I am not sure if it is worth trading 40 AD with 5% MS, tenacity, and 10% CDR. Also PD scales better into late game because it multiplies your AD. | ||
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SpaceToaster
United States289 Posts
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On December 09 2012 17:23 UniversalSnip wrote: ^^^ no offense smash but this isn't really news Wasn't it ShakeGizmo?  | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
My phone actually tried to autocorrect that to SmashDrizzle. Lol gg | ||
yamato77
11589 Posts
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Lmui
Canada6213 Posts
But seriously, fuck BC ==; | ||
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dae
Canada1600 Posts
On December 09 2012 18:52 Lmui wrote: I think I found the answer to BC if you're a carry. Build randuins. It gives you health, armor AND a slow. They have a harder time getting on top of you, if they're doing true damage you live longer, if they're not, you live longer anyways! It's genius! But seriously, fuck BC ==; The answer to BC as a carry is to play diana build hourglass and dfg and blow them up before they kill every1. When you can't play diana, however :-(. | ||
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Dan HH
Romania9122 Posts
On December 09 2012 18:52 Lmui wrote: I think I found the answer to BC if you're a carry. Build randuins. It gives you health, armor AND a slow. They have a harder time getting on top of you, if they're doing true damage you live longer, if they're not, you live longer anyways! It's genius! But seriously, fuck BC ==; I tried running 4 Exhausts with some friends, it's hilarious in teamfights. | ||
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Inschato
Canada1349 Posts
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Irave
United States9965 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11527 Posts
On December 09 2012 19:55 Inschato wrote: Exhaust is far and away the strongest teamfight ability so I can certainly see 4 of it working out fine, if you don't badly lose the lane phase. Ignite and Flash are mostly laning skills. Ghost is used most in the river area, teleport is a gank assist and backdoor tool, cleanse is cleanse, and everything else sucks. :D I wouldn't classify Flash as mostly a laning skill, one of its advantages is that is stays useful throughout the game. There is no point in the game where instantly being somewhere else, maybe even across a wall, is not immensely useful. I am also wondering if exhaust could not be as useful as ignite during laning, but more useful lateron. Also, did exhaust get nerfed in the recent patch? I just looked up the numbers for some comparisons, and i was pretty sure it was something like -40% spelldmg, -70% autoattack damage before, when now it is -30% damage and -50% attackspeed. Nonetheless, i think that pretty often, exhaust can be as good as ignite during laning. Of course especially against champions that rely on autoattacks for parts of their damage. It makes me question why people don't run it more often toplane. It also has the added benefit of enabling ganks, and being more useful during the teamfight stage. At level 6, Ignite does 170 dmg. So if you get 2 additional autos in due to exhaust, you break even. Of course it depends on the champion matchup how much benefit you can take from it, but why is it basically never used at the moment? I assume that ignite still gives you more killing potential, especially against someone close to their turret or in a dive. In a direct duel in the middle of the lane, i personally would give exhaust the advantage. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
On December 09 2012 20:19 Irave wrote: Holy shit, Vman is a broken man streaming right now. He finally realized turning off his cam would be an alright idea. Poor guy crying for whatever reason. He's drunk as fuck apparently. Wow I'm sorry I missed this...I actually tend to watch Vman quite a bit for whatever reason..... Edit: And god damn it he removed me from friends. | ||
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XaCez
Sweden6991 Posts
Now reduces attack speed by 50%. Movement speed reduction reduced to 30% from 40%. Now reduces all damage dealt by 30% from 70% for attacks and 30% from abilities/items. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On December 09 2012 19:55 Inschato wrote: Exhaust is far and away the strongest teamfight ability so I can certainly see 4 of it working out fine, if you don't badly lose the lane phase. Ignite and Flash are mostly laning skills. Ghost is used most in the river area, teleport is a gank assist and backdoor tool, cleanse is cleanse, and everything else sucks. :D One-of Heal is a stronger teamfight summoner until very late game, so much so that it has to be explicitly defined to be worse in multiples. Also, CV has the largest post-laning impact of any summoner (even though not as a teamfight ability), but is conversely the weakest summoner spell during laning phase (it's real advantages don't really become apparent until Oracle's are up). | ||
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