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On December 10 2012 03:56 beefhamburger wrote: If you have all 4 items with Spellblade (sheen, TF, lich bane, and iceborn gaunlet), which spellblade takes priority/which effect do you get when you attack? I believe it used to be TF > Lich > Sheen, but I do not know where Gauntlet fits in.
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On December 10 2012 03:54 c.Deadly wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote: 65% winrate = bad? Your interpretation might need some calibration.
Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game. #logic There are many ways of interpreting this graph. Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side. It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing. And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything. Most legendary items have a 65% win rate, GA is the only one I could find that was any higher at 70%. And Black Cleaver is at 65%. So explain how it's bad? Having one isn't bad. Just stacking them makes no sense as you still have a hard cap of 4 stacks on BC's on hit effect, and you don't get any other useful stats like MR, or Armor to go with your hp, or Attack Spd or Crit to go with your AD and Arpen, not to mention you lose out on other items' unique effects like maw of malmortious' shield or LW's % arpen or SotD's crit active.
Most people would agree that 5 zeals is a troll build. 5IE's is a troll build. 4BCs? Not troll at all. OP
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Brawler's gloves look like iceborn gauntlets.
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the thing with sightstone is that it has 4 wards even if you can only put 1 down at a time, so you can technically move wards. let's say you're bot, you put down your 2 wards, something happens, and then you have to move mid. you can put down those 2 wards in mid if the ones bottom serve no purpose anymore.
and, if you warp back, you can have 2 wards on the map and 4 wards in your inventory, giving you a lot of flexibility on where to place them. more so with ruby sight.
i do feel that with items like twin shadows and ice shard, as well as items like new BC, liandry's and ruined king, they wanted to make it so that you can ambush despite the vision advantage... but i don't think it's enough, especially mid/late game when most teams are roaming as a full squad.
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Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo.
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On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote: 65% winrate = bad? Your interpretation might need some calibration.
Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game. #logic There are many ways of interpreting this graph. Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side. It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing. And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything. Yeah that's totally what I wanted to say.
No fo realz, you'd normally think I'd say so if I wanted to be the only one with the right to reason, but clearly you can see through my devious ruse.
You have unveiled my secret plan. Instead of making a simple joke, I quite clearly meant to insult you personally! I must commend how cleverly you saw through me.
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On December 10 2012 04:18 LoCicero wrote: Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo. Yeah, he and Aphro are really entertaining.
Could do without the 90s trance music though 8D
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Are the new summoners better than the ignite+ flash for mid lane ap?
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On December 10 2012 04:05 obesechicken13 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 03:54 c.Deadly wrote:On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote: 65% winrate = bad? Your interpretation might need some calibration.
Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game. #logic There are many ways of interpreting this graph. Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side. It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing. And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything. Most legendary items have a 65% win rate, GA is the only one I could find that was any higher at 70%. And Black Cleaver is at 65%. So explain how it's bad? Having one isn't bad. Just stacking them makes no sense as you still have a hard cap of 4 stacks on BC's on hit effect, and you don't get any other useful stats like MR, or Armor to go with your hp, or Attack Spd or Crit to go with your AD and Arpen, not to mention you lose out on other items' unique effects like maw of malmortious' shield or LW's % arpen or SotD's crit active. Most people would agree that 5 zeals is a troll build. 5IE's is a troll build. 4BCs? Not troll at all. OP
It's hard to value stats like CDR and ArPen but currently you pay a very small premium for the passive effect of Black Cleaver. Passing up on stats like crit and aspd isn't a big deal for the champions you want black cleaver on, because they primarily deal damage through physical abilities. So BC gives all the stats you want, and another BC gives you more of the stats you want at a very small premium, and applying 2 stacks at a time is still very useful. From there build LW or GA - It's an extremely strong build on certain champions.
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Or without the twitch lag. x_x
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On December 10 2012 04:22 HazMat wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2012 04:18 LoCicero wrote: Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo. Yeah, he and Aphro are really entertaining. Could do without the 90s trance music though 8D
Just cuz you're too young to appreciate the 90s music... =P
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It's hard when it comes right after the 80s though.
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Barely watchable, it looks like you're only getting a frame every 15s or something.
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the game is so broken right now. it's not even funny. I'll just stop playing because i'm close to banging my head on a wall playing this ridiculous game
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People always overstate that.... The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.
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On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote: People always overstate that.... The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.
no it didn't
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the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken
everything was broken so it ended up balancing out
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On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote: People always overstate that.... The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.
It having been more broken doesn't mean it isn't really broken right now.
Broken or not it's not really fun to play with unlimited vision and 9 black cleavers on avarage in each game
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