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Chiharu Harukaze
Profile Joined September 2011
12112 Posts
December 09 2012 19:01 GMT
#2701
On December 10 2012 03:56 beefhamburger wrote:
If you have all 4 items with Spellblade (sheen, TF, lich bane, and iceborn gaunlet), which spellblade takes priority/which effect do you get when you attack?

I believe it used to be TF > Lich > Sheen, but I do not know where Gauntlet fits in.
It's like, "Is the Federation's Mobile Suit some kind of monster?"
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 19:06:22
December 09 2012 19:05 GMT
#2702
On December 10 2012 03:54 c.Deadly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic

There are many ways of interpreting this graph.

Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side.

It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing.


And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything.


Most legendary items have a 65% win rate, GA is the only one I could find that was any higher at 70%. And Black Cleaver is at 65%. So explain how it's bad?

Having one isn't bad. Just stacking them makes no sense as you still have a hard cap of 4 stacks on BC's on hit effect, and you don't get any other useful stats like MR, or Armor to go with your hp, or Attack Spd or Crit to go with your AD and Arpen, not to mention you lose out on other items' unique effects like maw of malmortious' shield or LW's % arpen or SotD's crit active.

Most people would agree that 5 zeals is a troll build. 5IE's is a troll build. 4BCs? Not troll at all. OP
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Praetorial
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States4241 Posts
December 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#2703
Brawler's gloves look like iceborn gauntlets.
FOR GREAT JUSTICE! Bans for the ban gods!
kainzero
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States5211 Posts
December 09 2012 19:09 GMT
#2704
the thing with sightstone is that it has 4 wards even if you can only put 1 down at a time, so you can technically move wards. let's say you're bot, you put down your 2 wards, something happens, and then you have to move mid. you can put down those 2 wards in mid if the ones bottom serve no purpose anymore.

and, if you warp back, you can have 2 wards on the map and 4 wards in your inventory, giving you a lot of flexibility on where to place them. more so with ruby sight.

i do feel that with items like twin shadows and ice shard, as well as items like new BC, liandry's and ruined king, they wanted to make it so that you can ambush despite the vision advantage... but i don't think it's enough, especially mid/late game when most teams are roaming as a full squad.
LoCicero
Profile Joined August 2010
1100 Posts
December 09 2012 19:18 GMT
#2705
Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 09 2012 19:19 GMT
#2706
On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic

There are many ways of interpreting this graph.

Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side.

It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing.


And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything.

Yeah that's totally what I wanted to say.

No fo realz, you'd normally think I'd say so if I wanted to be the only one with the right to reason, but clearly you can see through my devious ruse.

You have unveiled my secret plan. Instead of making a simple joke, I quite clearly meant to insult you personally!
I must commend how cleverly you saw through me.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 19:23:44
December 09 2012 19:22 GMT
#2707
On December 10 2012 04:18 LoCicero wrote:
Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo.

Yeah, he and Aphro are really entertaining.

Could do without the 90s trance music though 8D
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nosliw
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2716 Posts
December 09 2012 19:23 GMT
#2708
Are the new summoners better than the ignite+ flash for mid lane ap?
c.Deadly
Profile Joined March 2010
United States545 Posts
December 09 2012 19:23 GMT
#2709
On December 10 2012 04:05 obesechicken13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 03:54 c.Deadly wrote:
On December 10 2012 03:48 obesechicken13 wrote:
On December 10 2012 03:45 Dandel Ion wrote:
65% winrate = bad?
Your interpretation might need some calibration.

Also, it's obvious it's gonna level out at 50% if both teams buy it every game.
#logic

There are many ways of interpreting this graph.

Almost all legendary items have a 70% win rate because League games are short and if you get one and your opponent doesn't you were likely on the winning side.

It's not on both teams in every game because it's only seen in 8% of games on either team. The rise correlates to people following the pros and stacking multiple BCs in drawn out games and losing.


And when you say #logic that just sounds pretentious, like only you have the right to reason anything.


Most legendary items have a 65% win rate, GA is the only one I could find that was any higher at 70%. And Black Cleaver is at 65%. So explain how it's bad?

Having one isn't bad. Just stacking them makes no sense as you still have a hard cap of 4 stacks on BC's on hit effect, and you don't get any other useful stats like MR, or Armor to go with your hp, or Attack Spd or Crit to go with your AD and Arpen, not to mention you lose out on other items' unique effects like maw of malmortious' shield or LW's % arpen or SotD's crit active.

Most people would agree that 5 zeals is a troll build. 5IE's is a troll build. 4BCs? Not troll at all. OP


It's hard to value stats like CDR and ArPen but currently you pay a very small premium for the passive effect of Black Cleaver. Passing up on stats like crit and aspd isn't a big deal for the champions you want black cleaver on, because they primarily deal damage through physical abilities. So BC gives all the stats you want, and another BC gives you more of the stats you want at a very small premium, and applying 2 stacks at a time is still very useful. From there build LW or GA - It's an extremely strong build on certain champions.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2012 19:24 GMT
#2710
Or without the twitch lag. x_x
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
jcarlsoniv
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States27922 Posts
December 09 2012 19:36 GMT
#2711
On December 10 2012 04:22 HazMat wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 10 2012 04:18 LoCicero wrote:
Oddone is cracking me up. Guy deserves his viewer count imo.

Yeah, he and Aphro are really entertaining.

Could do without the 90s trance music though 8D


Just cuz you're too young to appreciate the 90s music... =P
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Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2012 19:38 GMT
#2712
It's hard when it comes right after the 80s though.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 09 2012 19:40 GMT
#2713
50s is where it's at
A backwards poet writes inverse.
57 Corvette
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada5941 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-12-09 20:09:51
December 09 2012 19:54 GMT
#2714
Nvm then lol
Survival is winning, everything else is bullshit.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
December 09 2012 20:00 GMT
#2715
Barely watchable, it looks like you're only getting a frame every 15s or something.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
RouaF
Profile Joined October 2010
France4120 Posts
December 09 2012 20:21 GMT
#2716
the game is so broken right now. it's not even funny. I'll just stop playing because i'm close to banging my head on a wall playing this ridiculous game
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
December 09 2012 20:24 GMT
#2717
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
December 09 2012 20:27 GMT
#2718
On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.


no it didn't
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
101toss
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
3232 Posts
December 09 2012 20:28 GMT
#2719
the game used to be broken in the sense that BW is broken

everything was broken so it ended up balancing out
Math doesn't kill champions and neither do wards
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
December 09 2012 20:30 GMT
#2720
On December 10 2012 05:24 Dandel Ion wrote:
People always overstate that....
The game used to be waaaaaaay more broken than it is now, back in the day.


It having been more broken doesn't mean it isn't really broken right now.

Broken or not it's not really fun to play with unlimited vision and 9 black cleavers on avarage in each game
"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
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